Yep, using the wrong two has totally ruined my morning. You’re, your, you are a loooser.
Why should tax payer pay for this?
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The point is that someone was lobbying for meals that millions of students eat five days a week to be healthier and the opposing political party freaked out and ran around with PRY MY FRIES FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS memes.
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Because it will lower health care costs in the long run, I wish people could look at the bigger picture instead of always thinking about why me?
60% of Americans are obese. Iowa is one of the most obese states in the country. I think there's a serious lack of self awareness.
Is it though? Let’s say someone continues to eat like shit since their first injection at the age 20. They live to 80 years old. 60 years of paying for the same thing.
They don’t get injections and have other hospital bills but die at age 50 from a heart attack. 30 years of bills that I’m guessing wouldn’t be completely covered by tax payers. Which one is costing Americans more?
Like I mentioned earlier, do we want to pay for everyone’s bad genetics?
Childhood cancer and other unfortunate medical issues are already covered by insurance and yes I'm happy to help pay for it with higher insurance premiums. There, but for the grace of God goes any one of us.
So its fair to say you are against this proposal as well?
The lesson that I learned consistently in grad school is to solve the underlying problem, and not just treat the symptoms. We have the tendency in this country to simply throw money at treating the symptoms. Now we insist we keep doing that because we are the most prosperous country in the world. Actually we are simply living on borrowed time. There's this notion that it's cheaper to treat the symptoms than solve the problem. That's a socialist notion. How about making people actually pay for their decisions in life? Nobody forces anyone to overeat, or eat unhealthy food, or ride through a grocery store on a fat scooter loading up the cart with sweets.
Yes, I understand that some conditions can't be helped.
Yes, I understand that some conditions can't be helped.
So my taxes sometimes goes towards things i dont personally use, want or agree with?
Not fair.
Not fair.
Yup. Europe in general has obesity rates that are half of the U.S. Too much eating and drinking of the wrong things along with too little exercise.
I’m as serious as a heart attack.
Thanks to ozempic I don’t have to worry about heart attacks. I can eat whatever I want whenever I want and know that American people are paying for it.
Their socialized medicine models also take into account medical outcome probabilities when providing and rationing care.
You're question re: paying for kid's cancer meds bills: YES,
And if you or a family member are in a similar situation and need care and financial assistance, it's there.
It's humane.
The medical field has been co-opted by idealogues.
I expect the number of diagnoses would skyrocket.
I'm guessing the crowd of personal responsibility in this thread, have several vices the rest of us pay for. I'm guessing you are also against the affordable care act as well. I'd be shocked that the personal accountability people pick and choose what things people should be accountable for.I’m as serious as a heart attack.
Thanks to ozempic I don’t have to worry about heart attacks. I can eat whatever I want whenever I want and know that American people are paying for it.
People have piss poor genetics because some people shouldn't breed, should we pay for them. Why pay for poor people that chose not to pay attention in school. We pay for a lot of peoples poor choices.
"Wisconsin leads the nation with 23.5% of adults reporting binge drinking behavior, while Iowa (21.8%), North Dakota (21.7%), South Dakota (21.1%), Nebraska (20.8%), and Minnesota (19.3%) also make the top of the list. Beyond the Midwest, Montana has the second highest rate (22.9%)."
Does that mean we need to keep that cycle going, or expand the cycle into a more downward trajectory? That's a good solution?
maybe those taking ozempic, change their eating habits? Ozempic has been shown to break other vices like drinking and smoking. Maybe that overweight mom, changes eating habits for her and her kids for a few years minimum, changing that cycle.
What expertise do you have to know whether or not this keeps a cycle going? other than feelings and anything the government does is bad.
A guy by the name of Richard Bachman wrote a fantastic treatise on a similar subject.
The irony where I live is that the obese, the heavy drinkers and the smokers, are, for the most part, MAGA.
Not to mention they have their “pain doctors”, and freely share their oxy and hydrocodone.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Not to mention they have their “pain doctors”, and freely share their oxy and hydrocodone.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
The least fat state in 2020 (CO) was fatter than the fattest state in 1990 (Mississippi).
This is my thought as well. Would it be worth a try if it prevents diabetes, heart disease, strokes, etc. in morbidly obese people who skew the statistics with their health issues that we pay billions for every year?
There would need to be guidelines and rules for those eligible. No smoking, dietary changes, lifestyle modifications, etc. For those willing to take those steps it could literally be a lifesaver.
You libs are like parrots.
Someone on MSNBC say something about oxy this morning?
We fund Big Soda and Big Salty Snacks by allowing Food Stamps to be used to keep buying them.
Lobbyists for these folks really earn their money.
Oh the irony. You realize there are RATs, RINOs out there? Or is it that you call everyone who is not MAGA a liberal.
That’s rich.
Genetics doesn't play a role for anyone. Any fatty that goes down to 1,800 calories per day, eats some even halfway remotely healthy foods of those 1,800 calories and walks 3 miles a day will eventually get down to a healthy weight. Don't make excuses for fattys.
About 4 years ago I was diagnosed with Type II diabetes. I'm not overweight, but do have a genetic tendency for Type II. I was prescribed a moderate dose of metformin, and a periodic shot of Ozempic. I immediately said no to the Ozempic. I did a ton of research on Type II diabetes. I made immediate diet changes and my A1C went from 11.3 to 6.3 in 4 months. In 3 more months I went to 6.1. My doctor told me that he's never seen anything like that. He said most people simply rely on medication to bring down their number. He also said the dosages tend to rise over time. He cut my metformin dose in half, to essentially the minimum he could prescribe. Next visit I'm down to 6.0, then discontinued the meds altogether after that. In the years since, I'm still at 6.1 or less with no meds.
I read anything and everything that comes across my news feed on this subject. I read every food label for a food I haven't eaten recently. I still check my glucose level to see if certain foods spike my blood glucose.
I'd say I have sufficient expertise to comment on this besides my "feelings".
never watch MSNBC:
Odd coming from someone that truly does parrot everything fox tells him.
so anecdotal evidence is now ok.
also, you are genetically weak, maybe you should be paying higher insurance premiums.
I don't watch Fox News. I've been clear about that.
My news sources are quite diverse.
First, I'm not sure where you got elective surgeries out of this article. That being said, getting a knee replacement is often considered an elective surgery but the quality of life for that person once they get it done is a million times better and actually can prevent other issues by allowing that person to remain far more active. Which leads to the idea of paying for weight loss drugs because controlling obesity will save money in not having as many issues that obesity causes. It's actually cheaper to have people not be obese.
I’m not embarrassed in the slightest.
You just can’t accept the fact that not all republicans are MAGA. That spoils your narrative.
Furthermore, there are many that have had our views for years. We didn’t change our views, the party moved to the extreme right and became a cult.
Think about this, if you can.
What did Reagan and both Bushes and the Cheneys, as an example, believe in? Nothing remotely like MAGA Trumpsters.
Big fan of this. This past election made it clear millions of Americans can't put cause and effect together with their choices. At least we as a society can mitigate it by providing access to those who don't know to eat better.
