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Why should tax payer pay for this?

I’m not embarrassed in the slightest.

You just can’t accept the fact that not all republicans are MAGA. That spoils your narrative.

Furthermore, there are many that have had our views for years. We didn’t change our views, the party moved to the extreme right and became a cult.

Think about this, if you can.

What did Reagan and both Bushes and the Cheneys, as an example, believe in? Nothing remotely like MAGA Trumpsters.

What makes one a MAGA? If we're gonna discuss this, you'll need to clearly define it.
 
About 4 years ago I was diagnosed with Type II diabetes. I'm not overweight, but do have a genetic tendency for Type II. I was prescribed a moderate dose of metformin, and a periodic shot of Ozempic. I immediately said no to the Ozempic. I did a ton of research on Type II diabetes. I made immediate diet changes and my A1C went from 11.3 to 6.3 in 4 months. In 3 more months I went to 6.1. My doctor told me that he's never seen anything like that. He said most people simply rely on medication to bring down their number. He also said the dosages tend to rise over time. He cut my metformin dose in half, to essentially the minimum he could prescribe. Next visit I'm down to 6.0, then discontinued the meds altogether after that. In the years since, I'm still at 6.1 or less with no meds.

I read anything and everything that comes across my news feed on this subject. I read every food label for a food I haven't eaten recently. I still check my glucose level to see if certain foods spike my blood glucose.

I'd say I have sufficient expertise to comment on this besides my "feelings".
But you had to work at it and want to get better. That’s to much work for someone that can get something handed to them and not have to exert themselves in an effort to get better. Plus you can’t eat all the crappy food they enjoy.
 
What makes one a MAGA? If we're gonna discuss this, you'll need to clearly define it.
The simple version.

You support all of Trump’s ideas and appointments which for many of us who are BRATs, is not something we choose to be part of.

We don’t believe religion should be in politics. You do.

But, the simple answer is you support Trump’s policies.
 
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Quality food is expensive; calories are cheap.
And available everywhere including your local gas station. Many small Iowa towns no longer have a grocery store. The probably have a Caseys and maybe a Dollar General.
 
If you vote for someone whose slogan is Make America Great Again (MAGA) you are a MAGA. Why are you so sensitive about the term? Are you embarrassed to be a Trump supporter?

That's your definition of a MAGA?

So much thought you put into that.
 
The medical field has been co-opted by idealogues.

I expect the number of diagnoses would skyrocket.
I thought RFK is going to magically fix all this? No?

On a serious note, it is sad to watch 1/3 of America lose trust in a variety of fields (medicine, education, etc). Especially considering that many of these talking points originated with Russian propaganda on social media. The medical profession is not as bad as you think it is.
 
I shop regularly because I cook regularly.

I do not eat nor buy chips nor ice cream, nor cookies. And the irony is most of those things are $5 a pop.

I don’t drink soda.

I also eat pastured meat and heritage eggs, and seafood. Not fried.

I drink coffee, tea, water and wine, an occasional Mic Ultra or a Bloody Mary.

My a1c is 3.5%. I lost 35 pounds, and quit taking BP meds.

Rarely eat white bread, sugar, rice or pasta.

My comfort food is Asian food.

I’ve lived in three foreign countries, and learned to cook the foods.

If you eat 12 ounce steaks, even if it’s grass fed/finished, you’re still eating too much meat. My meat intake is about 2 1/2 oz at most at one sitting.

But, I’ve been doing this since the ‘70’s. Maybe it’s why I don’t have major health issues.
 
Genetics doesn't play a role for anyone. Any fatty that goes down to 1,800 calories per day, eats some even halfway remotely healthy foods of those 1,800 calories and walks 3 miles a day will eventually get down to a e healthy weight. Don't make excuses for fattys.
Agree with your premise but it might be a wise thing to consider a kick start of sorts.
I’m glad that there’s at least a start of a national conversation about this. It’s overdue.
 
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Agree with your premise but it might be a wise thing to consider a kick start of sorts.
I’m glad that there’s at least a start of a national conversation about this. It’s overdue.
Also, the mechanism for these meds to work is that they suppress appetite, so it actually helps people accomplish these things.
 
If you vote for someone whose slogan is Make America Great Again (MAGA) you are a MAGA. Why are you so sensitive about the term? Are you embarrassed to be a Trump supporter?
I never would have guessed that well over half of America was MAGA. I just thought they weren’t f’d up in the head.
Learn something new every day.
 
I never would have guessed that well over half of America was MAGA. I just thought they weren’t f’d up in the head.
Learn something new every day.
Think you need a math lesson. Less people voted in this election than in 2020.

The margin was 1.2%. That is neither well over half, nor is it a mandate.

The last President that actually got this was Reagan.
 
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I never would have guessed that well over half of America was MAGA. I just thought they weren’t f’d up in the head.
Learn something new every day.
I'm honestly confused why those, including you, that voted for Trump are insulted by being called MAGA. Do you not agree with Trump's slogan? I use the term MAGA instead of Republican because many Republicans do not support Trump. I also never put a t at the end like many posters do. Seriously why are some of you so offended by it?

I get called a liberal all the time on here and I don't feel insulted by the term even though it's often meant to be derogatory. I am a liberal and proud of it.
 
Also, the mechanism for these meds to work is that they suppress appetite, so it actually helps people accomplish these things.
In addition many obese people have other issues that make exercise difficult due to their weight such as back, knee, or foot pain. They gain weight because exercise is painful and additional weight increases their pain. If the injections help them lose some of the weight their ability to move and burn calories increases.
 
Better start rewriting the guidelines for medical ethics then, rifler. And believe me…. Big Pharma loves the fact that these meds are being paid for via MedicAid/ MediCare. Perhaps a serious look at “socialized” medicine is the only real answer?

All that's necessary is to say no,.. There is no requirement for Medicare or Medicaid to foot the bill for every possible treatment that Big Pharma manages to dream up,.. We should cover what we can afford within the realm of what is considered medically necessary.
 
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Think you need a math lesson. Less people voted in this election than in 2020.

The margin was 1.2%. That is neither well over half, nor is it a mandate.

The last President that actually got this was Reagan.
Correction, less votes were counted in the 2024 election, guessing around the same amount of people voted.
Weird how one year had such a large spike in votes compared to every other election year.
If they wanted to get rid of Trump so badly, why didn’t they return to the voting booth to keep him out of office.
I'm honestly confused why those, including you, that voted for Trump are insulted by being called MAGA. Do you not agree with Trump's slogan? I use the term MAGA instead of Republican because many Republicans do not support Trump. I also never put a t at the end like many posters do. Seriously why are some of you so offended by it?

I get called a liberal all the time on here and I don't feel insulted by the term even though it's often meant to be derogatory. I am a liberal and proud of it.
So wouldn’t you call them republicans if they don’t support Trump as the MAGA’s are full blown Trump supporters. Maybe that’s why you are not understanding why people don’t appreciate being called MAGA
 
Correction, less votes were counted in the 2024 election, guessing around the same amount of people voted.
Weird how one year had such a large spike in votes compared to every other election year.
If they wanted to get rid of Trump so badly, why didn’t they return to the voting booth to keep him out of office.

So wouldn’t you call them republicans if they don’t support Trump as the MAGA’s are full blown Trump supporters. Maybe that’s why you are not understanding why people don’t appreciate being called MAGA
Would it make you feel better if I said MAGA Republicans?

ETA: What about MAGA Independents or MAGA Democrats?
 
What did Reagan and both Bushes and the Cheneys, as an example, believe in? Nothing remotely like MAGA Trumpsters.
Those particular individuals may have sneered at the Trump wing of the party but the vast majority of Boomer republicans and their rural brethren found ways to embrace MAGA views.
 
Correction, less votes were counted in the 2024 election, guessing around the same amount of people voted.
Weird how one year had such a large spike in votes compared to every other election year.
If they wanted to get rid of Trump so badly, why didn’t they return to the voting booth to keep him out of office.

So wouldn’t you call them republicans if they don’t support Trump as the MAGA’s are full blown Trump supporters. Maybe that’s why you are not understanding why people don’t appreciate being called MAGA
No Covid in 2024…pretty simple.
 
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Sure, it’s like dumb fvck democrats and dumb fvck independents.

Do you prefer to be a dumb fvck democrat or a liberal.
Are you saying MAGA is made up of dumb fvcks because I sure didn't say that. Once again you seem to feel slighted even though I made no claim being MAGA was dumb. I don't understand the appeal, but I never call anyone dumb.
 
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The record is clear here. Countless posts with links to a variety of news sources.

Bullshit. Conservative bias is conservative bias. When you post nonsense from nonsensical sites it matters.

Liberal bias is admitted. Problem or is truth is not on your side. You wouldn't know because you believe the lies, you're fed. It's on your culture.

Don't blame me for telling me you. Blame the lies and misinformation you've been fed for decades by conservative media. Or don't listen.

Live in your environment of untruth. But don't begin to claim to listen or read a variety of news/information sources. Your posts reflect your ultra conservative views, and I find it difficult to believe anyone can absorb and process total information and be vindictive, heartless and cruel towards others.

However, I've wondered this about Republicans all by life.
 
Are you saying MAGA is made up of dumb fvcks because I sure didn't say that. Once again you seem to feel slighted even though I made no claim being MAGA was dumb. I don't understand the appeal, but I never call anyone dumb.
I take it you would prefer being called a liberal.
In that case, have a great evening and night dumb fvck democrat.
 
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Are you saying MAGA is made up of dumb fvcks because I sure didn't say that. Once again you seem to feel slighted even though I made no claim being MAGA was dumb. I don't understand the appeal, but I never call anyone dumb.

If people are dumb, they're dumb.

Adjective meaning stupid. lacking intelligence.
 
Bullshit. Conservative bias is conservative bias. When you post nonsense from nonsensical sites it matters.

Liberal bias is admitted. Problem or is truth is not on your side. You wouldn't know because you believe the lies, you're fed. It's on your culture.

Don't blame me for telling me you. Blame the lies and misinformation you've been fed for decades by conservative media. Or don't listen.

Live in your environment of untruth. But don't begin to claim to listen or read a variety of news/information sources. Your posts reflect your ultra conservative views, and I find it difficult to believe anyone can absorb and process total information and be vindictive, heartless and cruel towards others.

However, I've wondered this about Republicans all by life.

Has it ever occurred to you that YOU are afflicted with extreme bias?
 
Those particular individuals may have sneered at the Trump wing of the party but the vast majority of Boomer republicans and their rural brethren found ways to embrace MAGA views.
Uh, none of my friends did. Some became democrats, others are RATs and RINOs.
 
Uh, none of my friends did. Some became democrats, others are RATs and RINOs.

That hasn't been my experience, other than my parents, but they only live in Iowa 3 months out of the year. My uncle used to be sensible but ever since he retired, he's been glued to NewsMax in the kitchen and become hardcore MAGA. It's been interesting to witness the total loss of any critical analysis or cognitive ability on his part.
 
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