Yeah why wouldn't he want to come back and play for a potential title run?
Oh wait
Wiesy is gone.
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If you are an elite shooter with at least average size and athleticism then you have a chance.
Easy Hoiberg. Easy now
If nunge can stay on the floor i could see him at closer to 18ppg given starters minutes. Hoping cjf can also stay healthy as him and keegan should both be in the 12-15 range. Also think joeT will be around 8-10. It’s a real bitch that what should be our top2 returning players are both injury prone. This is all based off joew being gone
That's a possibility, maybe a thread should be started to guess where Wieskamp might end up at? With Wisconsin losing 7 seniors wouldn't that fry some of the Iowa fans if he transferred to play for the Badgers as a grad transfer...
For the record I will miss Joe as a player and a great Hawkeye. As a legacy Iowa player I had hoped he would have stayed all 4 years.
I'll wait until I hear it from the horses mouth before I completely rule out his not coming back rumor though...
Yep. I thought he’d be a lot better than he was.
He would be a solid no.3 option on a team. We needed a hard-nosed #2 player.
A guy who wouldn’t have to outscore Weiskamp to be our no.2 player. Just do all the little things & grind us through tough patches of our tough games.
Weiskamp was a stat stuffer when we we’re rolling. Against the teams & stretches where we really needed a tough no.2 guy he’d disappear. Then he may pop in some garbage points at the end of those games to make it look ok to those who didn’t watch.
Dude, pour me a big glass of that stuff you got there.
I really want to be optimistic about Nunge, but can’t even imagine the mental toll it takes being as injured as he has. How do you come back and play with the physicality necessary to compete in the Big Ten straight off of two season ending knee injuries? Sounds like rehab is going well for him, which is good.
CJ has been injured, but plantar fasciitis at least goes away on its own eventually and I don’t really consider an injury so much as an ailment. He had a freak accident breaking his rib freshman year, which really leaves the ankle deal last year. He’s had a rough go, but I’m optimistic that injuries aren’t a chronic thing with him still
I agree but don’t see the capability of 20-22 wins next season. Would LOVE to be wrong but....
Just saying if they're underperforming at 21-9, then over performing, after player losses, would be 20-22. Opinion, of course.
Which Euro League you talking about?
I wish him luck....I just don't see it unless its a "developmental league" or Europe.
Do you guys even watch the NBA? His skill set translates better to that game than being called upon to be a number two scorer this year or leading man next year in college.
Duncan Robinson is a good comp for him and he is going to get a huge contract and has a niche as a spot up guy with enough athleticism to stay on the court. For Joe to be that kind of guy, he doesn’t really need to develop anything that he hasn’t shown already.
Best of luck to him assuming he is gone. Scoring is going to be an issue next year.
Duncan Robinson is a good comp for him and he is going to get a huge contract and has a niche as a spot up guy with enough athleticism to stay on the court. For Joe to be that kind of guy, he doesn’t really need to develop anything that he hasn’t shown already.
Best of luck to him assuming he is gone. Scoring is going to be an issue next year.
If Uthoff can't stick in the NBA, no way in hell Joe will. Very similar players IMO, outside the 2 inch height difference. Hope he proves me wrong, but just not convinced he's an NBA talent.
The truth could be both....1) he is not good enough to land an NBA contract and 2) those chances would not increase by returning for his senior season. How many seniors get drafted in the 1st round anymore, period? The NBA draft is basically like NFL running backs. OCCASIONALLY, and very seldom, there is a 4 year guy that slips through the cracks and turns a good NFL career (David Johnson). But if you look at 32 NFL running backs, I know you can count on one hand who did not come out when eligible after 3 years.
Increasing his scoring average from 14 to 21 a game does not do anything for his draft stock, it just means he's taking more shots. His 3 FG% will not improve, in fact it would probably nose-dive if he came back without Garza. He can make space to shoot and make a contested 3. He's not going to do anymore to become a better defender by playing here than he is playing in the NBA summer league/camp or the G-League. He's going to go to the draft as either a 21 year old Joe Weiskamp or a 22 year old Joe Weiskamp, and the former has slightly higher value to a pro team than the latter.
What's best for Iowa is that he stays and we're a top 25 team, and potentially this really could be a team that finishes just as high and gets another shot. But what's best for Joe is for him to turn pro.
Increasing his scoring average from 14 to 21 a game does not do anything for his draft stock, it just means he's taking more shots. His 3 FG% will not improve, in fact it would probably nose-dive if he came back without Garza. He can make space to shoot and make a contested 3. He's not going to do anymore to become a better defender by playing here than he is playing in the NBA summer league/camp or the G-League. He's going to go to the draft as either a 21 year old Joe Weiskamp or a 22 year old Joe Weiskamp, and the former has slightly higher value to a pro team than the latter.
What's best for Iowa is that he stays and we're a top 25 team, and potentially this really could be a team that finishes just as high and gets another shot. But what's best for Joe is for him to turn pro.
This season was his best by far at Iowa. I’m not sure how you could watch the games and not think he was improved over his first two years.
All that said, the NBA is all about potential and I doubt his potential as seen by the NBA really changes with another year.
He’s not. Too slow, can’t create any of his own looks for the most part, liability on D. Europe is his ticket
Cant say I like what you said, but the reality is, I agree with it. Unless we have a hidden gem in Perkins, this 21-22 edition of Iowa Basketball, with no portal help, is not an NCAA team in my opinion. I will gladly have the grill ready to throw the crow on come next March.
I expect a pretty damn good team, a tougher team, a more athletic team in a couple years. If you project the growth of games for these guys, I like the trajectory.
After this year, I will never expect anything less than a competitive product, an entertaining product, as long as Fran is here. I am frustrated of course but the laws of averages should have put us in the S16 at last a couple times in the last 21 years. I think the goal should be a top 4 finish in conference most years. There might be an occasional rebuild for a year but with over a decade in now, Fran should be able to reload rather then rebuild.
Keep on taking a stab at it. Consistently finishing upper echelon of conference will yield a pretty good seed in NCAA tourney. Keep getting there. I do believe we’ll break through at some point.
I doubt Wiesy stays and if that's the case, we should all wish him the very best in his future endeavors, basketball and otherwise. He was a solid player and classy representative of the University of Iowa for the past three years.
If he does happen to stay, Wiesy would be THE guy next year, which is a risk/reward. If it goes well, would be a big boost to his professional career potential. If he struggles as a senior getting all the opponent's defensive attention, could be a detractor.
If he does happen to stay, Wiesy would be THE guy next year, which is a risk/reward. If it goes well, would be a big boost to his professional career potential. If he struggles as a senior getting all the opponent's defensive attention, could be a detractor.
Many ways to interpret those comments. As you say, Joe T could just be talking past tense on the season. Also, cuite possible Joe T could be on the move after how he was utilized (or lack thereof) this season. Wiesy could be moving on too. Possibly both Joe T and Wiesy could have new homes next season.
We'd appreciate it if you did.
Weiskamp is good. Uthoff also had a lot less to compete with his senior year. Jok was on the scene but he wasn't competeing for points with a CJF, JBo, and Garza. If you adjust Weezy is as good as Uthoff at minimum.
Funny how time works. It wasnt long ago that people were calling out Uthoff for being soft and fading.
Iowa had 3 starting guards not score a point and can’t force a pick up against a 2A women’s player but y’all are dogging this guy...
Assuming he's as good as Uthoff, still shows how hard it is to make it in the NBA.
And quietly. Love his demeanor, he just goes out and plays.
For sure, Uthoff has been in the G league which is to say he is getting paid to play a game. I believe he also got called up once and made decent money.
You make that sound like a bad thing? it's not
This is kind of what I was thinking. But good luck to him.
Iowa has some of the dumbest fans around right now. Talking about Wieskamp transferring is just another example of it. Good grief.
I was a hell of a lot more impressed with Pat Mac than most of the lineup today. Kid has hustle!
To be fair, you are responding to the village idiot.
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