Will Harris pardon Trump if she wins?
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Post Trump, we need to do what we can to ensure we never allow another traitorous politician like him develop. No pardon, and let him die alone in prison should his term be long enough. Make him an example.
We need to do what we can to discourage Vance, Hawley, Gaetz, etc., from trying to follow his playbook to power.
We need to do what we can to discourage Vance, Hawley, Gaetz, etc., from trying to follow his playbook to power.
Be kinda funny for her to pardon him for stealing the documents, but not all the other stuff.
Have him accept the pardon, admitting guilt. Now the underlying premise for the lying about taking them, and trying to hide them (obstruction) is easily proven with the admission he took them, knowingly.
Try him and jail him for the associated stuff, now that the proof he knowingly took them is in the acceptance of the pardon....
BlueAnon alert. I am just fine with Trump being convicted and have never voted or supported the man. Was simply asking a question as it certainly will come up when she wins.
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This is the most logical and well thought out response in this entire thread. The rest is just BlueAnon talk.
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All he has to do is admit, on camera, to all the lies and crimes.
Do that and I’ll be okay with him being pardoned.
No need to pardon him. He’s already said he’ll hightail it to Venezuela if he loses and the Supreme Court doesn’t support his coup attempt.
One hopes but this country is in bizzaro world so who knows?
He could admit his crimes on camera and MAGA would claim the deep state was forcing him to do it. No way they would believe he did anything wrong that wasn't necessary to "save" America.
Only if he admits his guilt. So, no, she won’t.
Weird that upholding the law in this thread is Blue Anon to such a middle of the road moderate such as yourself.
If Donald loses Laura gets hauled to the curb within a year, and Donald will be looking for a new legal sugar daddy.
If I was Biden I would have tried to broker a deal with him in 2021 that included an admission of guilt, lying about the election and a promise to never run for office again.
After witnessing Donald Trump’s conduct since 2021….Harris should absolutely not, I hope he spends a fair chunk of time behind bars.
After witnessing Donald Trump’s conduct since 2021….Harris should absolutely not, I hope he spends a fair chunk of time behind bars.
I'll give you another theory to laugh about.
1. The judge knows the felony case isn't going to stick in the end, but since sentencing was postponed the "felon" talking point value has been realized.
2. This info has been shared with the Biden admin (or perhaps coordinated with). After all, we know the judge and prosecutor are on record as wanting to 'get trump,' so doing their share to help influence the election isn't unexpected.
3. After Kamala wins, Biden will pardon Trump before sentencing even happens. Why? He both promised to be a unifier, and would maintain the talking point that Trump was a convicted felon! He gets to be a "unifier" by letting the maga leader go, AND he sort of gets to jab it in the side of the Rs who are quick to point out how weak on crime Ds have become (a sort of 'except when it's your guy' thing...)
This is a way to take the win, and never have to suffer the backlash from a victory on appeal by Trump (or a mistrial/retrial).
Man...sometimes I even start to believe the crap I post. I should be a Dem strategist.
No.
Nothing will help her 38 percent approval ratings by the summer of 2025. (bookmark it) She's toast in 2028 either way, might as well put Trump in jail.
Agreed with this. She has a chance to be more unpopular than Biden. Republicans will screw it up though and nominate someone like Don Jr. Or Kari Lake.
I think it's more likely the Rs are toast. Once Trump is gone so will be millions of his supporters. There simply won't be enough voters left to make the Rs competitive.
Come back to reality Huey. The number of times one party or the other has been declared dead only to rise again would make anyone’s head spin.
God willing, following a Trump defeat in November, the true question is whether MAGA is dead and/or we see “RINOs” try to reclaim their party.
I don't think the other MAGA options will inspire the undying loyalty Trump has from his supporters. I don't understand their love for him, but it's like nothing I've ever seen before.
Trump will once again insert himself into the presidential candidacy in 2028, even if it's from a prison cell. Book it.
Did you see 78 year old Trump as a factor in 2024? Be honest.
No. Thought he was done after 2020...
D's pushing an 82 yr old Biden didn't end well. Kind of points to a 82 yr old Trump not doing well in 2028.
If he IS a factor in 2028 that will be to the D's benefit.
Why would pardoning one of the country's most notorious traitors help a political career?
We've seen this effect in elections without Trump on the ticket. Rs lose. Now imagine he's out of the picture entirely. GOP will be in really bad shape when he goes. Everything will have to be rebuilt by scratch. And if we know anything, it's that Rs are terrible at rebuilding things.
Agreed, we’ve seen several touted as essentially a Not-crazy/smart version of Trump. All have failed to duplicate the secret sauce.
Don’t really disagree, but I just don’t see 40% of the voters abandoning the GOP. They’re still going to be nationally relevant due to the number of rural states that are solid Red, and gerrymandering assures they’re going to be competitive in the House as well. They may continue to struggle for presidential races, but that’s a long way from saying they’re fading.
Not that long ago, pundits predicted a period of decline for the GOP post-Nixon. Then they elected Reagan and then bush in 3 consecutive elections. Then they postulated that democrats were being relegated to a secondary political party. Then Clinton won in ‘92 and ‘96. And so on.
I'll give you credit. That is well thought out hilarity.
I did notice you included nothing about him allocuting to his crimes for which he's being pardoned.
Her current approval rating according to 538 is 45.4%. Trump’s is 43.1%. If MAGA goes away with a Trump loss, I don't see her numbers falling that far.
He should refuse the pardon and pursue his appeals. The NY supreme court is slapping the shit out of these people and exposing just how bad the prosecution behaved. Other appeals courts would do the same. A pardon would mean their bullshit doesn't get fully exposed.
He didn't commit any crimes in New York. That is the problem
6 months of having to listen to word salad will drive her numbers down.
Main thing she has going for her now is she isn't Trump. He'll be gone and her numbers will go down.
We can revisit in 10 months
he will still hold court over all primaries in low iq red states.
I doubt he's alive in four years.
Another assassination attempt, or two, still likely.
I think a lot depends on the narrative being pushed by whatever the GOP is at that time through the right wing media sources. How long MAGA lives, will determine a lot IMO.6 months of having to listen to word salad will drive her numbers down.
Main thing she has going for her now is she isn't Trump. He'll be gone and her numbers will go down.
We can revisit in 10 months
AND attack Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation relentlessly.
