Would Not Bug Me if OSU, PSU, Mich & Oregon All Left B1G for a Super Conference

[West Dundee Hawkeye]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

 

[jonesy5960]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

Iowa hasn't been able to compete against the OSU's and Oregon's of the world since before any of us were born. Once in a blue moon a program like Iowa or Indiana has a chance. Now what's changed exactly?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Cosigned,

Kirk “I don’t know if you noticed but we won 10 games in the Big Ten West” Ferentz

 

[obfuscating]

Ah, then we would have a chance to be the best of the rest.

 

[Birky]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

I have bad news about how Iowa has competed against OSU for the last 100 years.

 

[Blackhawk6]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

Problem: After one or two years development at lower level, any outstanding player would be plucked by Super Conference biggie.

 

[rrdd2021]

Good Lord. It's all about TV markets - AND MONEY. The B1G now controls over 51% of the TV markets nationally in it's area-footprint. The rest of CF less than half. Explain to me why OSU, Oregon, PSU and Michigan would want to leave. They're all in if you talk to their fans and following and are already in a Super Conference.

NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Seattle, Portland.....all are major markets over 2.5 million viewers minimum. And I know I'm missing - leaving a few out big markets

Some of these posts are absolutely ridiculous.

 

[ASUHawkeye]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

Oregon is going to have around 35 million next year. They have way more than 20 million.

They paid Jabar Muhammad, Washington’s top CB last year, over 1 million. This roster currently is easily over 20 million too.

 

[mro1978]

Iowa hasn't been able to compete against the OSU's and Oregon's of the world since before any of us were born. Once in a blue moon a program like Iowa or Indiana has a chance. Now what's changed exactly?

they could compete against oregon before nike started bankrolling their program

 

[IowaMuse]

I’ve thought this for awhile. Iowa and other similar programs (Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc) will ultimately decide if they can or even want to participate in this crazy arms race. Or not.

There’s nothing about where college athletics is headed that’s even remotely appealing to fans of college sports and the college atmosphere.

If I’m Iowa I tap out. Invest even more in arts and literature. That’s where you are the best of the best.

 

[Legs94]

Ah, then we would have a chance to be the best of the rest.

I’ve always wanted to be like UNI and Drake. Those big teams are too scary for little ole Iowa…

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I thought this was now the Premier super conference, besides SEC

 

[Hans81]

I’ve thought this for awhile. Iowa and other similar programs (Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc) will ultimately decide if they can or even want to participate in this crazy arms race. Or not.

There’s nothing about where college athletics is headed that’s even remotely appealing to fans of college sports and the college atmosphere.

If I’m Iowa I tap out. Invest even more in arts and literature. That’s where you are the best of the best.

Yuck…what a loser mentality. All major universities need sports teams.

 

[icwesthawk]

Would Not Bug Me if OSU, PSU, Mich & Oregon All Left B1G for a Super Conference​

Don't think it would bug them either

 

[mvhomerl]

Get the teams out that Iowa can't beat! So B1G becomes the newer B1G west.

 

[IowaMuse]

Yuck…what a loser mentality. All major universities need sports teams.

Not really.

your mentality is the meathead mentality.

Iowa is more than its sports teams. Much more.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

I don't think it's an unreasonable consideration. Separate out the top 30 or so programs that want to be pro sports franchises and let the other schools go back to actual amateur athletics with actual students first. The way it exists for nearly all sports other than football and men's b-ball. Ratchet down the spending race.

 

[yrunvs]

There are about 6 teams that will always be in the playoff every year. That leaves 6 spots for teams having exceptional seasons. If the playoff is all the fanatics care about then their college seasons will be over early every year except now and then.

 

[HawkLogic]

To keep the dollars rolling in and keep people engaged with their eyeballs, the Oregons and Ohio States need patsies like Iowa to beat down. The real question is how long do people watch the 2nd tier NIL teams when the system is rigged such that they have no chance of competing.

 

[IowaHawk1994]

they could compete against oregon before nike started bankrolling their program

What Kum and Go can’t compete vs Nike
Casey’s ? Hy-Vee ?

 

[IowaMuse]

To keep the dollars rolling in and keep people engaged with their eyeballs, the Oregons and Ohio States need patsies like Iowa to beat down. The real question is how long do people watch the 2nd tier NIL teams when the system is rigged such that they have no chance of competing.

Exactly.

Which is why Iowa should tap out. This school has distinguished itself in so many other areas. It shouldn’t fall into tie trap of modern college athletics. It could be a trendsetter.

 

[yrunvs]

7 to 9 wins a year along with great fall weather and some tailgating is more than enough to enjoy my Hawkeyes. Screw the money race.

 

[IowaMuse]

7 to 9 wins a year along with great fall weather and some tailgating is more than enough to enjoy my Hawkeyes. Screw the money race.

What’s the objective? What in this scenario are you trying to accomplish!

 

[yrunvs]

What’s the objective? What in this scenario are you trying to accomplish!

Only that for most people it's the journey and winning or losing the game is secondary.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Having those teams on the schedule year in and year out and never playing those big four that you mentioned sounds gut-wrenchingly awful.

Enough of the chickenlittle, sky is falling attitude. As mentioned above, the Blue Bloods have always had an advantage over teams like Iowa; the only difference is now there’s a lot more money involved.

 

[Birky]

Not really.

your mentality is the meathead mentality.

Iowa is more than its sports teams. Much more.

I’m all for academics, but this isn’t the English and rhetoric board.

Just stop.

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

Mighty blue blood Oregon and their losing bowl record, whopping 11 consensus All Americans, and zero national titles will dominate the little ten for eternity.

 

[TXHCHawk]

Exactly.

Which is why Iowa should tap out. This school has distinguished itself in so many other areas. It shouldn’t fall into tie trap of modern college athletics. It could be a trendsetter.

Newsflash, so have all other B1G institutions (maybe with the exception of Nebraska). They are all AAU, with excellent research and academic programs. EXCELLENCE is the goal IN ALL AREAS: athletics, research, and academics.

They are all big business. They all have the capacity to COMPETE in all areas. I agree with the other poster, your post (not you) is reminiscent of a loser mentality. Hell, even the Writer’s Workshop students work to refine their craft, get better, and produce a better product. In essence, trying to be more competitive in their space.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

Good Lord. It's all about TV markets - AND MONEY. The B1G now controls over 51% of the TV markets nationally in it's area-footprint. The rest of CF less than half. Explain to me why OSU, Oregon, PSU and Michigan would want to leave. They're all in if you talk to their fans and following and are already in a Super Conference.

NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Seattle, Portland.....all are major markets over 2.5 million viewers minimum. And I know I'm missing - leaving a few out big markets

Some of these posts are absolutely ridiculous.

Yep, it's the only thing allowing us to hang on.

 

[83Hawk]

Having the “top” teams form their own conference won’t work. There always needs to be “bottom feeders” and middle-of-the-pack teams, otherwise all these “top” teams would each finish with 3-4 losses every year. Their fan bases would not tolerate that.

 

[IowaMuse]

I’m all for academics, but this isn’t the English and rhetoric board.

Just stop.

Just one of many examples.

Programs like Iowa will have to make a decision. It’s inevitable. But ultimately I think programs like Iowa would be better off allowing other programs that have the resources and desire to be pro entities to do so. And whoever is left can compete under a different system and structure.

Right now the real competition isnt on the field or with player development. It’s with NIL funding and booster billionaires.

 

[Dr. Phil Seuss]

Just one of many examples.

Programs like Iowa will have to make a decision. It’s inevitable. But ultimately I think programs like Iowa would be better off allowing other programs that have the resources and desire to be pro entities to do so. And whoever is left can compete under a different system and structure.

Right now the real competition isnt on the field or with player development. It’s with NIL funding and booster billionaires.

One thing you’re failing to see in all this is that the top handful of programs can’t play if they don’t have competition. You can’t have a 12 team league that matters and makes money like it does today.

 

[IowaMuse]

One thing you’re failing to see in all this is that the top handful of programs can’t play if they don’t have competition. You can’t have a 12 team league that matters and makes money like it does today.

This is true. But it won’t be a 12 team league. It will be most of the SEC, half of the Big 10, and 10-15 other programs. It will resemble the NFL. And those that commit to major funding requirements (through boosters,, NIL, etc) will participate in revenue sharing to kinda even out the playing field among the elite.

Then you’ll have conference realignment with more traditional structure based on region. So the old conferences may still exist in some fashion.

 

[JerNHawk]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

So what you’re saying is that you’re on the half of the fanbase that is happy with mediocrity, pumps your fist for 8-5 (even though we’ll play for nothing), bragged about 10 wins in the old Big Ten West, and thinks that Kirk has the right to retire whenever he wants. Pass 👎

 

[kceasthawk]

I don't think it's an unreasonable consideration. Separate out the top 30 or so programs that want to be pro sports franchises and let the other schools go back to actual amateur athletics with actual students first. The way it exists for nearly all sports other than football and men's b-ball. Ratchet down the spending race.

I highly doubt it would be 30 programs, at least after the dust settles. 12-15 MAYBE. The others aren't in any better situation then Iowa to chase the big dogs.....

 

[ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays]

I had always wanted to keep the B1G intact but the Washington Coach said he had heard the NIL payrolls of both OSU and Oregon was $20 million each. Iowa can't compete against that. I realize our payout would drop by 50% or more but that is ok.

If the big name schools all left to be in a Super Conference, I am ok with that.

Iowa just needs to play MN, WI, IL, NW, NE and ISU for a fun season.

Go Hawks!

Just need to wait it out until the schools can finally pay players directly.

 

[kceasthawk]

One thing you’re failing to see in all this is that the top handful of programs can’t play if they don’t have competition. You can’t have a 12 team league that matters and makes money like it does today.

Which is why it hasn't happened already. Say your PSU and you jump in with both feet in this mess. Then when your schedule is OSU, Bama, Texas, Oregon, Michigan, Notre Dame etc.. every year and you start going 4-8 how long is that going to fly for the big donors?

 

[JerNHawk]

Not really.

your mentality is the meathead mentality.

Iowa is more than its sports teams. Much more.

Off topic, but you come off as “woke mob” material

 

[yrunvs]

Like I've said before, there are about 6-7 blue bloods that will be in the playoff every year leaving 5-6 spots available for other teams having an extraordinary season. So if your hanging your hat on the playoff system and your team is not a blue blood then expect college football to become a misery for you.

 

[IowaMuse]

Like I've said before, there are about 6-7 blue bloods that will be in the playoff every year leaving 5-6 spots available for other teams having an extraordinary season. So if your hanging your hat on the playoff system and your team is not a blue blood then expect college football to become a misery for you.

The problem isn’t blue bloods. A lot of folks think the problem will be blue blood dominance. It won’t. The problem will be programs like Indiana, one of the worst power 5 programs and little to no fan support or resources or even the slightest commitment, buying teams because of Mark Cuban and big donors and silly NIL money. It’s the poverty programs buying success when they haven’t earned it…that’s the problem. We’re seeing it in basketball too with schools like BYU and even Vandy. And Indiana of course.

Once it’s about money then it becomes who’s willing to pony up. And boom suddenly you can be good without any real skill or capability or creativity at building and history of sustaining success.