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That was a jammed packed PPV- and that's with all of the injuries-

if you gave them a year to build to it, I think AEW/NJPW could sell out a stadium Wrestlemania style...
Not discounting their appeal based on my personal preference, but early buys for this show were estimated at 100,000. I think they would need to build their mainstream/casual fanbase quite a bit before they could pull off a Wrestlemania type live event in the states with 60-80K in one stadium.

Wrestlemania sells itself at this point.

I'm not sure they would need NJPW, in that seems like a redundant fanbase for them.
 
Not discounting their appeal based on my personal preference, but early buys for this show were estimated at 100,000. I think they would need to build their mainstream/casual fanbase quite a bit before they could pull off a Wrestlemania type live event in the states with 60-80K in one stadium.

Wrestlemania sells itself at this point.

I'm not sure they would need NJPW, in that seems like a redundant fanbase for them.
The AEW/indies fan base is rabid. Sell 'em on it, they'll do anything. Like All In or whatever.
 
The AEW/indies fan base is rabid. Sell 'em on it, they'll do anything. Like All In or whatever.
I don't doubt their passion, just questioning whether there are enough of them from a numbers standpoint, to basically pull off an All In x 4.

I'd venture if Tony had the market research to hint at the possibility of filling an NFL type stadium, it would of been announced already.
 
I don't doubt their passion, just questioning whether there are enough of them from a numbers standpoint, to basically pull off an All In x 4.

I'd venture if Tony had the market research to hint at the possibility of filling an NFL type stadium, it would of been announced already.
True, I suppose.
 
Not discounting their appeal based on my personal preference, but early buys for this show were estimated at 100,000. I think they would need to build their mainstream/casual fanbase quite a bit before they could pull off a Wrestlemania type live event in the states with 60-80K in one stadium.

Wrestlemania sells itself at this point.

I'm not sure they would need NJPW, in that seems like a redundant fanbase for them.
Just how much has WWE "grown" since the start of AEW?
 
I don't doubt their passion, just questioning whether there are enough of them from a numbers standpoint, to basically pull off an All In x 4.

I'd venture if Tony had the market research to hint at the possibility of filling an NFL type stadium, it would of been announced already.
They've sold out 20K in New York for a weekly show...they've sold out Chicago multiple times at the United Center...there have been 12 WrestleMania's with less attendance...

With a year to build to an annual event, AEW/NJPW could sell out a stadium in the US...
 
They've sold out 20K in New York for a weekly show...they've sold out Chicago multiple times at the United Center...there have been 12 WrestleMania's with less attendance...

With a year to build to an annual event, AEW/NJPW could sell out a stadium in the US...
I guess we won't know until they try it, but I'd be skeptical. To jump from 20K to 60-70K in a single market would be significant even with a year build? I'm not taking a shot at their audience, they are a new company.
 
Good old fashioned sports entertainment on TBS currently. Detroit Crowd is lit.
 
Trips is back to signing talent :)

Logan Paul mentioned after his match at Mania, Vince came up to him and said 'you belong here'.
 
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They go to AEW, we might see some needle moving on the ratings front. Not even joking. Just hoping that Tony lets Regal or someone capable help with storylines.
 
They go to AEW, we might see some needle moving on the ratings front. Not even joking. Just hoping that Tony lets Regal or someone capable help with storylines.
I don't know about Shasha. Love her in ring talent and character. She is the definition of high maintenance. But AEW she would get creative freedom.
 
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I don't know about Shasha. Love her in ring talent and character. She is the definition of high maintenance. But AEW she would get creative freedom.
Hell yeah she would. I just mean the women’s division in general needs some dedicated booking.
 
Hell yeah she would. I just mean the women’s division in general needs some dedicated booking.
The women's division is plan hot garbage in terms of booking. Honestly everything is skippable. All the characters seem to be on their own island with no direction.
 
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The women's division is plan hot garbage in terms of booking. Honestly everything is skippable. All the characters seem to be on their own island with no direction.
Absolutely agree. Jade is fun, though, and I didn’t think I would be saying that just a few months ago. But they need some help.

ETA: it’d be great to get Naomi and Sasha there for the experience and let them coach up the women’s roster. Hoo daddy.
 
I haven’t seen much NWA admittedly. I need to get with it. Did watch the last Impact ppv which was a lot of great stuff, however. I watch NJPW more often than Impact.
 
So, will be at Dynamite tonight. Barbed wire everywhere match.

I really don't enjoy these garbage matches. I am glad to be going to a show with a big feud blowoff, but would rather not be this. Last time Dynamite was here, it was kind of a treading water show, and the energy waned a little.

It ends up being a long night. Dark taping at 7, Dynamite, then Rampage taping. I appreciate the bang for the buck and am glad to get 4 hours of wrestling for the ticket price, but it's hard to keep the energy up unless it's super hot start to finish. And my son reminded me there will probably be a long delay before the rampage taping while they take down the barbed wire setup.
 
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Scorpio Sky is awesome. Jungle Boy is awesome. Hobbs is awesome. Brody King is far and away my favorite AEW wrestler currently.
 
So, will be at Dynamite tonight. Barbed wire everywhere match.

I really don't enjoy these garbage matches. I am glad to be going to a show with a big feud blowoff, but would rather not be this. Last time Dynamite was here, it was kind of a treading water show, and the energy waned a little.

It ends up being a long night. Dark taping at 7, Dynamite, then Rampage taping. I appreciate the bang for the buck and am glad to get 4 hours of wrestling for the ticket price, but it's hard to keep the energy up unless it's super hot start to finish. And my son reminded me there will probably be a long delay before the rampage taping while they take down the barbed wire setup.
I'm definitely interested in your feedback when you get home.
 
I'm definitely interested in your feedback when you get home.

Overall, excellent evening. As I mentioned, last Dynamite I went to was a bit of a slog. The product was fine, but it was kind of a transitional show a bit after a pay per view and all the matches were kind of random and not in service for an angle. It was also one of those shows where all of the matches (save one) there was absolutely no doubt who would win. Given the length of the show, it's hard for a crowd to stay engaged over 4+ hours without stakes established.

The crowd last night was way hotter, and a little bigger. I think having the blow off (maybe?) to a big angle in the main even really helped. Having a couple matches you don't know the outcome of helps as well.

Overall, the product was good. The Dark Matches, even being squashes, were much better than the last one I went to. A few observations...

- Toni Storm (dark match) was way more over than it comes across on TV. Also, maybe because it was the first match, people were just hyped for anything
- Ricky Starks is WAAAAY over, at least in Georgia. No credible way to book him as an actual heel at this point
- Got to see a couple of the bigger stars wrestle on Rampage which we were not expecting, which was a nice surprise
- The barbed wire match was not as unpleasant as I was fearing. I don't like guys getting thrown into barbed wire and Aubrey Edwards having to dislodge barbed wire from their backs. But it wasn't the kind of thing that escalates...forks, tacks, glass, etc. Nor really dangerous bumps. I'm sure it was painful, but neither guy was taking bumps that would get them seriously hurt, like swantons off ladders or unprotected chair shots to the skull or whatever. The entire crowd stood for the whole match
- Probably too much "sports entertainment" stuff if I was watching it on TV, between the busy shenanigans in the main event, and the Acclaimed/Gun Club rap battle on Rampage. However, in person people were really into it, so it was fun.
- Rampage main event was quite anti-climactic, as it was a guy that's been retired for two years against a guy that's never won a match on AEW TV, purely to hype a match on PPV for "another promotion". Both guys are pros and it was a perfectly fine match, but nobody gives a shit almost five hours in. It's fine, its not like people were there to see that match or anything, but I'd say people were pretty damn engaged all the way through up to that.

Overall, good night, lots of bang for the buck, fun crowd. Much better than the previous Dynamite I went to, so that's what I was hoping for.
 
Overall, excellent evening. As I mentioned, last Dynamite I went to was a bit of a slog. The product was fine, but it was kind of a transitional show a bit after a pay per view and all the matches were kind of random and not in service for an angle. It was also one of those shows where all of the matches (save one) there was absolutely no doubt who would win. Given the length of the show, it's hard for a crowd to stay engaged over 4+ hours without stakes established.

The crowd last night was way hotter, and a little bigger. I think having the blow off (maybe?) to a big angle in the main even really helped. Having a couple matches you don't know the outcome of helps as well.

Overall, the product was good. The Dark Matches, even being squashes, were much better than the last one I went to. A few observations...

- Toni Storm (dark match) was way more over than it comes across on TV. Also, maybe because it was the first match, people were just hyped for anything
- Ricky Starks is WAAAAY over, at least in Georgia. No credible way to book him as an actual heel at this point
- Got to see a couple of the bigger stars wrestle on Rampage which we were not expecting, which was a nice surprise
- The barbed wire match was not as unpleasant as I was fearing. I don't like guys getting thrown into barbed wire and Aubrey Edwards having to dislodge barbed wire from their backs. But it wasn't the kind of thing that escalates...forks, tacks, glass, etc. Nor really dangerous bumps. I'm sure it was painful, but neither guy was taking bumps that would get them seriously hurt, like swantons off ladders or unprotected chair shots to the skull or whatever. The entire crowd stood for the whole match
- Probably too much "sports entertainment" stuff if I was watching it on TV, between the busy shenanigans in the main event, and the Acclaimed/Gun Club rap battle on Rampage. However, in person people were really into it, so it was fun.
- Rampage main event was quite anti-climactic, as it was a guy that's been retired for two years against a guy that's never won a match on AEW TV, purely to hype a match on PPV for "another promotion". Both guys are pros and it was a perfectly fine match, but nobody gives a shit almost five hours in. It's fine, its not like people were there to see that match or anything, but I'd say people were pretty damn engaged all the way through up to that.

Overall, good night, lots of bang for the buck, fun crowd. Much better than the previous Dynamite I went to, so that's what I was hoping for.
Glad you and your boy had fun!
 
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