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Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...

He will not make it 4 years.
Why’s that?
WTF are you even talking about moron?

It's good to remember that when you idiots don't have the talking points to go off of you make absolutely no sense.

But just to lay it out for you, Trump/Vance obviously had no intention of signing the already negotiated mineral rights deal today. They set up a planned ambush, and at this point you would almost have to say a Putin ordered ambush to scotch the deal.
WTF - that’s quite the conspiracy theory.
 
You dont seem to understand what "nothing in return" means. Not only have they taken a loan they owe us for, they would get the protection of Americans there Russia wouldn't want to **** with and they would have an entire industry built foe them and a new revenue source.


But sure"nothing".


I'm starting to see how the Biden approach of blank checks was so accepted by you idiots.
You know nothing.

The Ukraine has been important to us for years. Think back and do some research about the region.

When the wall came down, every Russian republic became free. They ran to freedom.

We forged alliances intentionally with these countries, under Reagan and Bush.
Did you say the same on Jan 6th when our people went to our Capitol to protest?
”our people “ those weren’t my people. Those people are a disgrace to the US.
 
Wow this is so hard to lead you through.

If Ukraine runs out of men to fight in the next 1, 2 or 3 years Russia walks in and takes the entire country. The US has spent $300B for nothing.

Oh well back to HBOT and rage on Trump running for a 3rd term.
Really hard to walk you through all of this.

The US did not give $380b to Ukraine. The Eu did. The US gave $180b.

The US gave weapons. They also provided training on those weapons.

We make a lot of money off our weapons. We sell them to our allies.

This is what your Congress does everyday, along with the lobbyists and military contractors?

Do you not understand how this works?
 
I can't stand "Grab em in the pussy Trump"

As far as draft dodging, honest people were on both sides of US troops fighting in Vietnam. Had more protested, Vietnam would be the same today as not, but millions wouldn't be dead.
 
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Over-reaction. 🤨
Bullshit. Dumb ass. Give me another instance in the last 75 years when the U.S. President is publicly cheered by that butcher Putin and his acolytes and chided by all of our European allies. Tell me the last time that the U.S. voted with Russia and North Korea against all of our western allies in a U.N. resolution. Tell me when you've ever heard Canadians booing U.S. teams at sporting events during the national anthem.
 
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Adam Kinzinger is a disgrace.
Sarcastic Wallace Shawn GIF by CBS
 
Bullshit. Dumb ass. Give me another instance in the last 75 years when the U.S. President is publicly cheered by that butcher Putin and his acolytes and chided by all of our European allies. Tell me the last time that the U.S. voted with Russia and North Korea against all of our western allies in a U.N. resolution. Tell me when you've ever heard Canadians booing U.S. teams at sporting events.
F*ck off.
 
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If I were Zelensky I'd tell Trump to shove his mineral rights deal up his ass and just pivot to working with Europe.

Hell, Poland, the Baltics and Ukraine itself are likely enough to thwart Russia - it's already proven its military is exponentially weaker than thought. France and the UK are nuclear powers and more than capable of throwing their weight around against Russia.

If America wants to be a bitch baby country with no say in international matters because of Trump, let it.
True dat. the drump has shown that the current state of affairs suggests that the US is not a trusty partner in any kind of agreement.
That clown is leading the charge and is a bull shit MF.
Until the US becomes once again a steady partner, I would not trust them regarding long term agreements.
 
Preface: Do not take this as a defense of Trump or Vance in any way. They embarrass this country daily.

Was anyone in Zelenskyy's ear telling him that doing this PC might be a bad idea? Seems like Trump et al laid a trap for him and he walked into it.

I just don't understand why anyone other than Trump/Vance thought this was necessary or how it would be constructive.
I don’t believe he had much of a choice and yes, it was a set up by team moron to try to sway Americans into not wanting to support Ukraine. The opposite was achieved. Trump and Vance just made the US look like bullies to the rest of the world. It was not a good look.
 
The manager of the internet cafe I knew in Dnipro when I went to Ukraine in 2011 sent me this message.

"I watched the meeting between Trump and Zelensky and I see that Putin and Trump are best friends. This is the reincarnation of Stalin and Hitler, who decided to redivide the whole world."
 
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