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Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...

  • Jesus taught, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God" (Matthew 5:9).

  • Jesus encouraged his followers to be brave in the face of violence, saying, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul" (Matt. 10:28).
What did Jesus say to the man that humans coronated the first Pope?
See how you can uses this religious shet to justify anything. We should wage war and destroy Gaza, Russia, and anyone else who stands in our way.

What did God do to the guy who took over from Moses after his death?

Joshua 10:40-43
So Joshua conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded. And Joshua conquered them from Kadesh Barnea as far as Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even as far as Gibeon. All these kings and their land Joshua took at one time, because the LORD God of Israel fought for Israel. Then Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to the camp at Gilgal.
 
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It's China I'm worried about. NK just adds grist for the war mill.

No major country would have considered starting a world-wide conflict pre-Orange Turd.

Alliances prevented it. If NATO dissolves all bets are off. The episode today in the WH breaks faith the world has in America's word and trust. It plus the Orange Turd's bizarre submissive attitude toward Putin and autocratic leaders for years has displaced the United States as leader of the free world. We have the offensive power to serve as deterrence in Europe and/or Eurasia but no leadership to enforce.
 
Shocking

He thanked Americans at the beginning of the meeting. He has consistently thanked Americans.



Why does he need to do this?

When Churchill wore his siren suit to the White House people didn't claim it was disrespectful. It is a symbolic gesture to support his people during a war time effort.

Maybe I missed it but I haven't heard you complain one lick about Elon prancing around the White House in a t-shirt.
He should wear a suit and tie also. But at least he wore a suit coat over his t-shirt. Z shows up in a fvcking Henley. And you want respect? As they say in Jersey…Get outta here.

Why does he need to bite his lip? Because we have given him hundreds of billions of dollars that's why and without that he'd be out if power at best and dead at worst.

I think we should stop sending tax dollars and start asking people to write checks directly to the effort. As usual, leftists are more than willing to spend money as long as its someone else’s. Or are willing to spend their own money as long as that money forces richer people to send more.

I am NOT willing to spend a nickel more on this war or spill a drop of American blood on this stalemate Sorry not sorry.
 
I can’t read Trump’s mind. Perhaps he thinks he can bully Zelenskyy as Ukraine is a smaller, weaker country? Whereas, with Russia, the Trump administration just wants to broker a cease fire/peace deal between Ukraine & Russia and doesn’t think calling Putin a “dictator” would aid in that end result? You’d havd to ask Trump for a definitive answer. 😉

Do you think it's weird that you just have to guess why your Party leader was aggressive towards an ally and friendly towards an adversary? You stand with him, but you're not real sure why. I guess if anyone has ever earned the benefit of the doubt...

Anyways, since you tried to answer, I'll provide a bit of commentary for why a reasonable person might think the US is pro-Russia:

Trump is the lawfully elected President of the US. It was just a handful of months ago. Accordingly, a reasonable person could believe that what he says and does is representative of the "US". He's us, he speaks and acts for us and US.

So when Trump compliments Putin's genius or skill - on numerous occasions - a reasonable person might think he means it.

When Trump calls Zelensky a dictator, but refuses to call Putin the same, a reasonable person might think Trump favors Russia.

When the US met with Russia in Saudi, and started talking about all the business opportunities, a reasonable person might think Trump is in favor of Russia.

When Russian media is celebrating what Trump says about Ukraine and the talks with Russia, a reasonable person might think that Trump is pro Russia.


Does this mean that Trump is a Russian asset, or that he sold us all out, or he's Hitler, or a dictator, or any of the other allegations? No, not necessarily, but they are reasons to believe that the US is pro Russia.
 
Nothing good is going to come of this. Trump will exit the US from NATO. Europe will form a new ‘NATO’, around Nuclear powers France and the UK with the US on the outside in isolation.
The audience this was for was right in front of him rest assured.

Wrong on NATO. No chance that actually happens. Trump may not be a fan of its makeup and cost sharing but we will not leave. Zero chance.
 
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Trump had an audience of one—Putin

Nothing good is going to come of this. Trump will exit the US from NATO. Europe will form a new ‘NATO’, around Nuclear powers France and the UK with the US on the outside in isolation.
Dude, the US is NATO. Everybody in the world should be for a stronger and more united Europe. If that happens because of today, then that’s a win for everybody. We as Americans should be 100% for Europe stepping up to the plate and doing more for their own security. Not piggy backing on the US military and grifting us American tax payers.

We’re running a 2 Trillion deficit, that is only ballooning and driving this country off a cliff, due to stupid BS like funding an endless Ukraine-Russian war. It’s what people voted for and most people are fed up with it.
 
Dude, the US is NATO. Everybody in the world should be for a stronger and more united Europe. If that happens because of today, then that’s a win for everybody. We as Americans should be 100% for Europe stepping up to the plate and doing more for their own security. Not piggy backing on the US military and grifting us American tax payers.

We’re running a 2 Trillion deficit, that is only ballooning and driving this country off a cliff, due to stupid BS like funding an endless Ukraine-Russian war. It’s what people voted for and most people are fed up with it.
My brother from another mother.…
 
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No major country would have considered starting a world-wide conflict pre-Orange Turd.

Alliances prevented it. If NATO dissolves all bets are off. The episode today in the WH breaks faith the world has in America's word and trust. It plus the Orange Turd's bizarre submissive attitude toward Putin and autocratic leaders for years has displaced the United States as leader of the free world. We have the offensive power to serve as deterrence in Europe and/or Eurasia but no leadership to enforce.
But do we have the financial resources? We are $36 trillion in debt.
 
Wrong on NATO. No chance that actually happens. Trump may not be a fan of its makeup and cost sharing but we will not leave. Zero chance.

But if it does happen, you'll be here posting something about how it had to happen and that thankfully Trump had the strength and courage to stand up against the leftists that would have spilled American blood for pointless overseas follies.
 
I need to unplug from it all.

I was having fun with it for a while, but even I have a line that is just too far.

That White House meeting is the last straw for me. It’s no longer entertaining. It’s trash reality TV combined with the Twilight Zone.

And it’s just going to keep getting worse.
Welcome, my friend.
 
Do you think it's weird that you just have to guess why your Party leader was aggressive towards an ally and friendly towards an adversary? You stand with him, but you're not real sure why. I guess if anyone has ever earned the benefit of the doubt...

Anyways, since you tried to answer, I'll provide a bit of commentary for why a reasonable person might think the US is pro-Russia:

Trump is the lawfully elected President of the US. It was just a handful of months ago. Accordingly, a reasonable person could believe that what he says and does is representative of the "US". He's us, he speaks and acts for us and US.

So when Trump compliments Putin's genius or skill - on numerous occasions - a reasonable person might think he means it.

When Trump calls Zelensky a dictator, but refuses to call Putin the same, a reasonable person might think Trump favors Russia.

When the US met with Russia in Saudi, and started talking about all the business opportunities, a reasonable person might think Trump is in favor of Russia.

When Russian media is celebrating what Trump says about Ukraine and the talks with Russia, a reasonable person might think that Trump is pro Russia.


Does this mean that Trump is a Russian asset, or that he sold us all out, or he's Hitler, or a dictator, or any of the other allegations? No, not necessarily, but they are reasons to believe that the US is pro Russia.
Your thoughts may be “reasonable”, but still just your opinions. No more, or less, valid than mine. Have a good evening. This old man has to have his warm milk before going to bed. 😉
 
Democrats sold the world a bag of shit that Ukraine had any chance to win this war.

Ukraine can take the deal or continue on until they lose.
It’s going to be beautiful when Ukraine/Europe beat Putin like the little twerp he is. Then they can laugh in the faces of effeminate bottoms like Trump/Vance and SA. Enjoy the cock while you can queen.
Ukraine is taking soldier applications if you want…
So
Ukraine is taking soldier applications i

Ukraine has a national website for their points of peace.

Also they did not sign the mineral rights agreement.

I guess they prefer fighting and dieing.
Nothing wrong with fighting and dying for your country and its sovereignty. This post is why someday America will cease to be free. Citizens willing to give an invading country parts of our country just to have them stop invading and killing us. How long do you think that lasts? Not long, they already know you’re weak and will cave. Our forefathers are rolling over in their graves.
 
Hmm. Lots of rare minerals in Ukraine. Trillions of dollars, maybe. Zelensky should make a deal with European countries, blow Russia off the map, take over Moscow and split the spoils with his new friends, and live in peace.

p.s. And send a go fvck yourself note to U.S. Republicans with a box of rubles.
 
Do you think it's weird that you just have to guess why your Party leader was aggressive towards an ally and friendly towards an adversary? You stand with him, but you're not real sure why. I guess if anyone has ever earned the benefit of the doubt...

Anyways, since you tried to answer, I'll provide a bit of commentary for why a reasonable person might think the US is pro-Russia:

Trump is the lawfully elected President of the US. It was just a handful of months ago. Accordingly, a reasonable person could believe that what he says and does is representative of the "US". He's us, he speaks and acts for us and US.

So when Trump compliments Putin's genius or skill - on numerous occasions - a reasonable person might think he means it.

When Trump calls Zelensky a dictator, but refuses to call Putin the same, a reasonable person might think Trump favors Russia.

When the US met with Russia in Saudi, and started talking about all the business opportunities, a reasonable person might think Trump is in favor of Russia.

When Russian media is celebrating what Trump says about Ukraine and the talks with Russia, a reasonable person might think that Trump is pro Russia.


Does this mean that Trump is a Russian asset, or that he sold us all out, or he's Hitler, or a dictator, or any of the other allegations? No, not necessarily, but they are reasons to believe that the US is pro Russia.
I think the US is pro avoiding a US Russia war triggered by a small formerly soviet non Nato country a million miles away that 12 years ago we wouldn't have sent a billion dollars to.
But if it does happen, you'll be here posting something about how it had to happen and that thankfully Trump had the strength and courage to stand up against the leftists that would have spilled American blood for pointless overseas follies.
No I wouldn't.
 
Hmm. Lots of rare minerals in Ukraine. Trillions of dollars, maybe. Zelensky should make a deal with European countries, blow Russia off the map, take over Moscow and split the spoils with his new friends, and live in peace.

p.s. And send a go fvck yourself note to U.S. Republicans with a box of rubles.
You think China and NK stand idlly by during this wet dream of yours?

Second, Europe doesnt have the stomach for this either. The only stomach they have is for getting the US to carry their water. Hell they can't even pay the money they should now.

Today's events get us a peace deal soon I predict. Z has to understand his position will get no stronger later than it at this very moment.
 
Hmm. Lots of rare minerals in Ukraine. Trillions of dollars, maybe. Zelensky should make a deal with European countries, blow Russia off the map, take over Moscow and split the spoils with his new friends, and live in peace.

p.s. And send a go fvck yourself note to U.S. Republicans with a box of rubles.
That’s a dream, but go for it.
 
Your thoughts may be “reasonable”, but still just your opinions. No more, or less, valid than mine. Have a good evening. This old man has to have his warm milk before going to bed. 😉

Right, an opinion or point of view, which is based on facts, actual things that have occurred, which used to matter. Reasonable people still believe that opinions based on facts are more valid than opinions devoid of them. Yet, you thought it was 'lol' worthy that someone would think that the US is aligned with Russia.

Good night. Perhaps you'll awake with a newfound energy to defy the Party.
 
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Right, an opinion or point of view, which is based on facts, actual things that have occurred, which used to matter. Reasonable people still believe that opinions based on facts are more valid than opinions devoid of them. Yet, you thought it was 'lol' worthy that someone would think that the US is aligned with Russia.

Good night. Perhaps you'll awake with a newfound energy to defy the Party.
I’ve got a life and much more important things to do than “defy the Party”. Hey, at least I cheered for Rocky to beat Ivan Drago. 😉
 
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I think the US is pro avoiding a US Russia war triggered by a small formerly soviet non Nato country a million miles away that 12 years ago we wouldn't have sent a billion dollars to.

Pathetic Dementia Joe managed to avoid a US Russia war without kowtowing to Russia, why are you accepting such a beta role from Trump with respect to Russia? I think you're in an abusive relationship.

This is not your fault. You deserve better. This is not your fault.
 
I’ve got a life and much more important things to do than “defy the Party”. Hey, at least I cheered for Rocky to beat Ivan Drago. 😉

Thanks Hans, I actually laughed. I don't doubt that you have better things to do than think for yourself when it comes to political matters, just trust the Party. Although, I can't help but wonder why you come and post here like you have your own thoughts.
 
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It’s going to be beautiful when Ukraine/Europe beat Putin like the little twerp he is. Then they can laugh in the faces of effeminate bottoms like Trump/Vance and SA. Enjoy the cock while you can queen.

So



Nothing wrong with fighting and dying for your country and its sovereignty. This post is why someday America will cease to be free. Citizens willing to give an invading country parts of our country just to have them stop invading and killing us. How long do you think that lasts? Not long, they already know you’re weak and will cave. Our forefathers are rolling over in their graves.
Best post of the night. Thank you
 
I’m 52, so you may be younger than me for all I know. Next week I’m doing a 50 mile hike through the Gand Canyon with ~12K feet of elevation change so I’m not in too bad of shape. But I could stand to lose 20 pounds or so tough guy.
I'm eyeing a R2R2R this fall, so I am very interested in your upcoming trip. Hoping you can share some details with us. Are you camping in the canyon or doing one of those crazy person nonstop hikes?
 
Multiple countries in the last decade they invaded he said. When I asked him for a list at least he came back and admitted he was wrong. I have some respect for that. But I also asked him what he based his prediction on, and he never came back to answer that. I think we all know the answer. His opinion is his opinion, but not really based on reality. Which is fine, but I love how these guys post things as fact when it is merely something they read on Bluesky. They really, really do not like being questioned. And really, really do not like links that show how full of crap they are.

I didn’t come back because it’s Friday night and I was hanging with my family.

I’ve never been in blue sky.

I think Russia will continue to launch wars on conquest because that’s what they’ve done under Putins leadership consistently and he’s stated it as a goal.
 
I can’t read Trump’s mind. Perhaps he thinks he can bully Zelenskyy as Ukraine is a smaller, weaker country? Whereas, with Russia, the Trump administration just wants to broker a cease fire/peace deal between Ukraine & Russia and doesn’t think calling Putin a “dictator” would aid in that end result? You’d have to ask Trump for a definitive answer. 😉
I think you are close to the point.
Trump campaigned on being able to end the war on Day One. His and Putin's plan was for Russia to keep what territory they have taken so far and Ukraine would accept that. Ukraine won't agree to that so Trump is doing what he does when someone won't kiss his ass.
What would the US do in Ukraine's position?
 
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He should wear a suit and tie also. But at least he wore a suit coat over his t-shirt. Z shows up in a fvcking Henley. And you want respect? As they say in Jersey…Get outta here.

Why does he need to bite his lip? Because we have given him hundreds of billions of dollars that's why and without that he'd be out if power at best and dead at worst.

I think we should stop sending tax dollars and start asking people to write checks directly to the effort. As usual, leftists are more than willing to spend money as long as its someone else’s. Or are willing to spend their own money as long as that money forces richer people to send more.

I am NOT willing to spend a nickel more on this war or spill a drop of American blood on this stalemate Sorry not sorry.
 
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