Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...

[h-hawk]

• Air Defense
• Three Patriot air defense batteries and munitions;
• 12 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
• HAWK air defense systems and munitions;
• AIM-7, RIM-7, and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
• More than 3,000 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
• Avenger air defense systems;
• VAMPIRE counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems (c-UAS) and munitions;
• c-UAS gun trucks and ammunition;
• Mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
• Other c-UAS equipment;
• Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
• Air defense systems components;
• Equipment to integrate Western launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s systems;
• Equipment to support and sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities; and
• 21 air surveillance radars.

Fires

• More than 40 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and ammunition;
• Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb launchers and guided rockets;
• More than 200 155mm Howitzers and more than 3,000,000 155mm artillery rounds;
• More than 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
• More than 100,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
• 72 105mm Howitzers and 1,000,000 105mm artillery rounds;
• 10,000 203mm artillery rounds;
• More than 400,000 152mm artillery rounds;
• Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
• 40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
• 60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
• More than 300 mortar systems;
• More than 700,000 mortar rounds;
• More than 100 counter-artillery and counter-mortar radars; and
• More than 50 multi-mission radars.

Ground Maneuver

• 31 Abrams tanks;
• 45 T-72B tanks;
• More than 300 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
• Four Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles;
• More than 400 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers;
• More than 900 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
• More than 400 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles;
• More than 1,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles;
• More than 5,000 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
• More than 200 light tactical vehicles;
• 300 armored medical treatment vehicles;
• 80 trucks and more than 200 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
• More than 1,000 tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
• 153 tactical vehicles to recover equipment;
• 10 command post vehicles;
• 30 ammunition support vehicles;
• 29 armored bridging systems;
• 20 logistics support vehicles and equipment;
• 239 fuel tankers and 105 fuel trailers;
• 58 water trailers;
• Six armored utility trucks;
• 125mm, 120mm, and 105mm tank ammunition;
• More than 1,800,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition; and
• Mine clearing equipment.

Aircraft and Unmanned Aerial Systems

• 20 Mi-17 helicopters;
• Switchblade Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
• Phoenix Ghost UAS;
• CyberLux K8 UAS;
• Higher-600 UAS;
• Jump-20 UAS;
• Hornet UAS
• Puma UAS;
• Scan Eagle UAS;
• Penguin UAS;
• Raven UAS;
• Other UAS;
• Two radars for UAS;
• High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
• Air-to-ground munitions;
• Support equipment for F-16s;
• More than 6,000 Zuni aircraft rockets;
• More than 20,000 Hydra-70 aircraft rockets; and
• Munitions for UAS.

Anti-armor and Small Arms

• More than 10,000 Javelin anti-armor systems;
• More than 120,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions;
• More than 10,000 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
• More than 50,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
• More than 500,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition and grenades;
• Laser-guided rocket systems and munitions;
• Rocket launchers and ammunition; and
• Anti-armor mines.

Maritime

• Two Harpoon coastal defense systems and anti-ship missiles;
• More than 100 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
• Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels; and
• Port and harbor security equipment.

Other capabilities

• M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
• C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
• Obstacle emplacement equipment;
• Counter air defense capability;
• More than 100,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
• Tactical secure communications systems and support equipment;
• Four satellite communications (SATCOM) antennas;
• SATCOM terminals and services;
• Electronic warfare (EW) and counter-EW equipment;
• Commercial satellite imagery services;
• Night vision devices, surveillance and thermal imagery systems, optics, and rangefinders;
• Equipment to protect critical national infrastructure;
• Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
• Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
• Medical supplies, including first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
• Field equipment, cold weather gear, generators, and spare parts; and
• Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities.

And you need a time line to make sense of this. The UK and Poland led the way back when Ukraine was alone. The US has the biggest military so it would make sense that eventually we would catch up and surpass the other countries. Remember the months of inaction when the House Republicans turned a successful Ukraine offensive into a stalemate? Just think what Ukraine could have done with all this stuff earlier in the war.

 

[Scruddy]

You sure are one dumbfükkin stooge

Says the guy who wants to give this clown another 100 billion in free money

No.

The party that claims to love democracy also simps for the guy who banned democracy in his country.. And they wonder why people accuse them of being part of a cult..

 

[stillh8unlv]

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The more I read your links the more I understand your mind numbing stupidity

 

[ThorneStockton]

Will probably never know now. The mineral deal would’ve paid the US back and would have vested interest there so Russia would have to back off there. For starters anyway.

Now you go?

So you watched if four times but didn't see the several chances or you already forgot them?

Oh, we were going to get paid back, sounds like we missed an opportunity to help our country. Bummer.

 

[Scruddy]

This thread is a magnet for the Russimericans from Iowackostan.

How many billions more would you give to ukraine? Do you support zalenski banning elections in ukraine?

 

[GolfHacker1]

It seems like you also have the selective ability to answer questions. Are you a Trumper? Because a Trumper talking about separating opinions from fact is so very appealing, you have the ability to supply a lot of amusement on this board.

Doesn't want to talk about stolen elections though, what about trying to find votes in Georgia any interest in that? Got any facts about crowd sizes that you like?

I gave you my advice. Why would you think you'd be in a position to demand an answer from me? I largely ignore your rants.

 

[HawkeyeHitman]

They are such f-----ing cowards.

This is about the most embarassed I've EVER been to being an American.

JFC

If you’re so embarrassed to be here then get the fvck out of here. But instead you’re too big of a pussy to do anything. You would rather bitch and moan about your failures in life than do something about it. The United States would be better off without bathhouse bitches like you.

 

[lonestar50]

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With tears in their eyes. They were begging

 

[stillh8unlv]

Says the guy who wants to give this clown another 100 billion in free money

Agreed, I think we've given Trump enough of our money

 

[GolfHacker1]

And you need a time line to make sense of this. The UK and Poland led the way back when Ukraine was alone. The US has the biggest military so it would make sense that eventually we would catch up and surpass the other countries. Remember the months of inaction when the House Republicans turned a successful Ukraine offensive into a stalemate? Just think what Ukraine could have done with all this stuff earlier in the war.

Can you link to a military expert that indicated Ukraine had a chance to win if only they received more arms earlier?

 

[Scruddy]

Yes we are 🫡

 

[Hans81]

What does this mean?

You can figure it out.

 

[GarryO37]

Trump massively drew down troop levels, effectively forcing the next administration's hands.

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

And the Trump administration kept to the pact, reducing U.S. troop levels from about 13,000 to 2,500, even though the Taliban continued to attack Afghan government forces and welcomed al-Qaeda terrorists into the Taliban leadership.

Biden delayed the May 1 withdrawal date that he inherited. But ultimately his administration pushed ahead with a plan to withdraw by Aug. 31, despite obvious signs that the Taliban wasn’t complying with the agreement and had a stated goal to create an “Islamic government” in Afghanistan after the U.S. left, even if it meant it had to “continue our war to achieve our goal.”

Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan - FactCheck.org

We lay out many of the key diplomatic decisions, military actions, presidential pronouncements and expert assessments of the withdrawal agreement that ended the U.S. military's 20-year war in Afghanistan.

www.factcheck.org

No one denies Trump struck a deal with conditions. But Biden’s hand was not forced and the complete disaster that was the Afghanistan withdrawal lies at his feet.

 

[stillh8unlv]

If you’re so embarrassed to be here then get the fvck out of here. But instead you’re too big of a pussy to do anything. You would rather bitch and moan about your failures in life than do something about it. The United States would be better off without bathhouse bitches like you.

Biggest buffoon on the board chimes in again.

 

[MitchLL]

It's clear to me that Trump wanted/expected Zelensky to kiss his ass in front of the cameras.
When it became obvious he wasn't doing that. Trump took on a more condescending tone that deteriorated into what we witnessed.

Such childish behavior.

 

[ft254]

You're an angry elf....

And a fükkin idiotic one as well.

Ooooohhhh, look at my tough guy president and my internet message board tough guy typing skills.

The world and this site mocks your very existence

Brother, hitman is an articulate poster. Not one inkling of a defense for the Orange Turd and his slimy VP and the shit show he orchestrated.

Like Watergate this will never go away. This is a defining moment. It just came over the news Zelensky was ordered to leave the WH.

Absolutely sickening.

 

[Huey Grey]

Zelensky wasn't even president when Obama was. Hard to fathom what's going on in Trump's Adderall riddled mind thinking that connecting the two was a good card to play?

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

I believe my exact words have always been "going to look at lot like kicking the 25 year old out of the house", admittedly, I thought it would have gone better.

It is what it is, Trump views the war as the swamps way of funding itself and I think there may be some truth. The Russia Ukraine war will be over by earth day.

 

[McLovin32]

Ukraine wanted to continue the talks but Trump and Co had completed their photo op so they called it off.

 

[ThorneStockton]

I gave you my advice. Why would you think you'd be in a position to demand an answer from me? I largely ignore your rants.

I guess I didn't have the cards. I was hoping you'd amuse us all with your fact based approach to life as a Trumper. You're like a unicorn, except instead of a horn - it's your appetite for eating shit - the rest of the board gets to point and laugh.

Here's my advice: If you get tired of being mocked for being fact based, just go with faith based gut feelings. That's what most of your Patriot MAGA brethren employ.

 

[libbity bibbity]

Rubio is thinking, "why did I have to be such an invertibrate?".

Rubio just released a tweet on X saying thank you POTUS for standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had thr courage to do before. Thank you for putting America first. America is with you!

 

[wausauhawk]

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Yes we are 🫡

I'd also prefer trump not be around period.

There's our favorite troll showing up to fellate the guy he doesn't like!

 

[Scruddy]

😂😂

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Georgia is a staunch American ally.

Putin is clearly demonic and you're taking his side. That's very sad.

I’m not taking his side. I’m just saying, “not our fight”.

Or perhaps maybe we should “white knight” for Ukraine like we did for our French allies in Indochina?

 

[Doodads and Hoohah]

I'm not the one supporting the unethical and ungrateful dictator Zelenskyy.

You are simpleton just like DT Barnum. I don't give a shit who the Ukrainian president is. It's the principal that they were attacked by a dictator and all trump, Vance and your ilk are worried about is saying thanks.

 

[Rifler]

Biden delayed the May 1 withdrawal date that he inherited. But ultimately his administration pushed ahead with a plan to withdraw by Aug. 31, despite obvious signs that the Taliban wasn’t complying with the agreement and had a stated goal to create an “Islamic government” in Afghanistan after the U.S. left

And the above is where Biden phucked things up,.. He didn't do an organized withdrawal in May prior to start of fighting season,.. Then after postponing things to set up a 9/11 memorial withdrawal, he pulled out without an organized plan that wasn't reliant on Afghan security...

 

[ft254]

You can figure it out.

Like all you right wing idiots, you spout off bullshit without substance.

 

[Hawki97]

How many billions more would you give to ukraine? Do you support zalenski banning elections in ukraine?

I’d like us to stop spending money there and for them to get back to free and fair elections. I’m also for stopping Russian expansionism in Eastern Europe and weakening them militarily and diplomatically around the world with the fewest US lives lost possible. And a lot more that is more complex than I have time to discuss today. What happen in the Oval Office today did not help anyone. Only a Russimarican would look at that with clear eyes and defend it.

 

[h-hawk]

Can you link to a military expert that indicated Ukraine had a chance to win if only they received more arms earlier?

Well, they have inflicted almost 1,000,000 casualties as it is.

 

[Tom Paris]

Do you guys think Trump and Vance would ever yell at Putin like that??

 

[GarryO37]

Oh I completely know he didn't understand that part.

Here you are being the despicable human you are and laughing at the withdrawal.

 

[h-hawk]

 

[Mister_Man]

 

[mnole03]

Why wasn’t he wearing a suit for his meeting and press conference in the Oval Office? Who does he think he is, the President?

 

[Scruddy]

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Do you guys think Trump and Vance would ever yell at Putin like that??

If putin were in Zalinskyy's spot and there was a "putin" they were fighting, yes.

 

[LunchBox50]

Says the guy who wants to give this clown another 100 billion in free money

The party that claims to love democracy also simps for the guy who banned democracy in his country.. And they wonder why people accuse them of being part of a cult..

Speaking of simps — only a fool would deny that Arnold Palmer had a giant dick.

 

[Mister_Man]

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Context. Both Vance and Trump accused Zelensky of not being thankful. JFC.

 

[MitchLL]

Rubio just released a tweet on X saying thank you POTUS for standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had thr courage to do before. Thank you for putting America first. America is with you!

Of course he did.

What, you expected a Republican to stand up to Trump?

LOL, the joke's on you.

 

[Chishawk1425]

No one denies Trump struck a deal with conditions. But Biden’s hand was not forced and the complete disaster that was the Afghanistan withdrawal lies at his feet.