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Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...

Haven't watched it yet. My feelings won't change tho.
Now THIS is on-brand. 😂 😂 😂

Literally the most MAGA answer ever.

"IN NO WAY WILL ACTUAL EVENTS OR FACTS CHANGE MY PRE-CONCEIVED BELIEFS!"

And then to act proud of that level of abject ignorance. Just wow. Explains why we are where we are as a country.
 
Now THIS is on-brand. 😂 😂 😂

Literally the most MAGA answer ever.

"IN NO WAY WILL ACTUAL EVENTS OR FACTS CHANGE MY PRE-CONCEIVED BELIEFS!"

And then to act proud of that level of abject ignorance. Just wow. Explains why we are where we are as a country.
Applies to you even more based on most of your posts on here being devoid of fact basis.
 
Preface: Do not take this as a defense of Trump or Vance in any way. They embarrass this country daily.

Was anyone in Zelenskyy's ear telling him that doing this PC might be a bad idea? Seems like Trump et al laid a trap for him and he walked into it.

I just don't understand why anyone other than Trump/Vance thought this was necessary or how it would be constructive.

The meeting had to happen. Zelensky came out the winner. The Orange Turd and his side kick looked like school yard bullies. Europe will coalesce behind Ukraine, our image will take a bigger hit since the creep took office, and the chaos within the administration will worsen.

The Orange Balloon in Chief's political capital is eroding quickly. He is a dumb individual and dumb people do dumb things. The press conference today was ridiculous. International leaders are expected to be held to a level of behavior which sets example.

The was an example of how a person with poor quality of character and personality conducts oneself. A pathetic demonstration by a person unfitting to hold the office.
 
Hate to tell you. We weren’t giving it away, genius.

That’s Trump's spin on it. We supply weapons and they test them for us. We train them in their use. Their troops are the guinea pigs.
I dont think we were giving them any state of the art equipment that needed testing. But I could be wrong. Would be willing to read anything you have that bolsters this position.

If so, what was your posuition on selling or giving weapons to Isreal? Id guess the level of technology we'd be testing was likely to be higher there than in Ukraine. So would you agree that that was a positive if so?
 
I think what MIGHT have set Vance and Bonespurs off on their stunning rant was when Zelensky said...paraphrasing..."We've gone at it alone for three years".
What Zelensky obviously meant was "on the battlefield".
What I think the two dumbfvcks understood was "Ukraine hasn't gotten financial and military support".

Not sure how Turd/Vance wouldn't understand the comment.
 
  • Air Defense
  • Three Patriot air defense batteries and munitions;
  • 12 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
  • HAWK air defense systems and munitions;
  • AIM-7, RIM-7, and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
  • More than 3,000 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
  • Avenger air defense systems;
  • VAMPIRE counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems (c-UAS) and munitions;
  • c-UAS gun trucks and ammunition;
  • Mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
  • Other c-UAS equipment;
  • Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
  • Air defense systems components;
  • Equipment to integrate Western launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s systems;
  • Equipment to support and sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities; and
  • 21 air surveillance radars.
Fires

  • More than 40 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and ammunition;
  • Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb launchers and guided rockets;
  • More than 200 155mm Howitzers and more than 3,000,000 155mm artillery rounds;
  • More than 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
  • More than 100,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
  • 72 105mm Howitzers and 1,000,000 105mm artillery rounds;
  • 10,000 203mm artillery rounds;
  • More than 400,000 152mm artillery rounds;
  • Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
  • 40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
  • 60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
  • More than 300 mortar systems;
  • More than 700,000 mortar rounds;
  • More than 100 counter-artillery and counter-mortar radars; and
  • More than 50 multi-mission radars.
Ground Maneuver

  • 31 Abrams tanks;
  • 45 T-72B tanks;
  • More than 300 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
  • Four Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles;
  • More than 400 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers;
  • More than 900 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
  • More than 400 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles;
  • More than 1,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles;
  • More than 5,000 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
  • More than 200 light tactical vehicles;
  • 300 armored medical treatment vehicles;
  • 80 trucks and more than 200 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
  • More than 1,000 tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
  • 153 tactical vehicles to recover equipment;
  • 10 command post vehicles;
  • 30 ammunition support vehicles;
  • 29 armored bridging systems;
  • 20 logistics support vehicles and equipment;
  • 239 fuel tankers and 105 fuel trailers;
  • 58 water trailers;
  • Six armored utility trucks;
  • 125mm, 120mm, and 105mm tank ammunition;
  • More than 1,800,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition; and
  • Mine clearing equipment.
Aircraft and Unmanned Aerial Systems

  • 20 Mi-17 helicopters;
  • Switchblade Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
  • Phoenix Ghost UAS;
  • CyberLux K8 UAS;
  • Higher-600 UAS;
  • Jump-20 UAS;
  • Hornet UAS
  • Puma UAS;
  • Scan Eagle UAS;
  • Penguin UAS;
  • Raven UAS;
  • Other UAS;
  • Two radars for UAS;
  • High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
  • Air-to-ground munitions;
  • Support equipment for F-16s;
  • More than 6,000 Zuni aircraft rockets;
  • More than 20,000 Hydra-70 aircraft rockets; and
  • Munitions for UAS.
Anti-armor and Small Arms

  • More than 10,000 Javelin anti-armor systems;
  • More than 120,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions;
  • More than 10,000 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
  • More than 50,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
  • More than 500,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition and grenades;
  • Laser-guided rocket systems and munitions;
  • Rocket launchers and ammunition; and
  • Anti-armor mines.
Maritime

  • Two Harpoon coastal defense systems and anti-ship missiles;
  • More than 100 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
  • Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels; and
  • Port and harbor security equipment.
Other capabilities

  • M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
  • C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
  • Obstacle emplacement equipment;
  • Counter air defense capability;
  • More than 100,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
  • Tactical secure communications systems and support equipment;
  • Four satellite communications (SATCOM) antennas;
  • SATCOM terminals and services;
  • Electronic warfare (EW) and counter-EW equipment;
  • Commercial satellite imagery services;
  • Night vision devices, surveillance and thermal imagery systems, optics, and rangefinders;
  • Equipment to protect critical national infrastructure;
  • Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
  • Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
  • Medical supplies, including first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
  • Field equipment, cold weather gear, generators, and spare parts; and
  • Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities.
And most of this results in money being spent in dozens of US communities to build, assemble, replenish, etc.
"Nearly 70% of the $175 billion in U.S. aid to Ukraine since Russia’s 2022 invasion was spent in the U.S. or on U.S. forces, according to a study by the American Enterprise Institute published in May 2024."
 
The meeting had to happen. Zelensky came out the winner. The Orange Turd and his side kick looked like school yard bullies. Europe will coalesce behind Ukraine, our image will take a bigger hit since the creep took office, and the chaos within the administration will worsen.

The Orange Balloon in Chief's political capital is eroding quickly. He is a dumb individual and dumb people do dumb things. The press conference today was ridiculous. International leaders are expected to be held to a level of behavior which sets example.

The was an example of how a person with poor quality of character and personality conducts oneself. A pathetic demonstration by a person unfitting to hold the office.
Well-said and totally on brand for Trump.

Just as he is a poor person's idea of what a rich person is (despite being tawdry, cheap and cringey) he and Vance are also a weak person's idea of what a tough person is.

The Emperor's clothes are off and more people are recognizing it daily.
 
The meeting had to happen. Zelensky came out the winner. The Orange Turd and his side kick looked like school yard bullies. Europe will coalesce behind Ukraine, our image will take a bigger hit since the creep took office, and the chaos within the administration will worsen.

The Orange Balloon in Chief's political capital is eroding quickly. He is a dumb individual and dumb people do dumb things. The press conference today was ridiculous. International leaders are expected to be held to a level of behavior which sets example.

The was an example of how a person with poor quality of character and personality conducts oneself. A pathetic demonstration by a person unfitting to hold the office.
The economy weakening will do more to hurt him than anything else. The American voters will overlook a lot of things with a strong economy.
 
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Hate to tell you. We weren’t giving it away, genius.

That’s Trump's spin on it. We supply weapons and they test them for us. We train them in their use. Their troops are the guinea pigs.
This is largely factually inaccurate. Can you post a credible source that indicates Ukraine is testing the equipment list we provided, which I cited and posted in this thread, please and thanks?

No, no you can't. Surprise, surprise. Not.
 
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Are you talking about the Cold War? When the left was pushing for unilateral disarmament?
Yes. Which is why I held my nose and voted for Reagan the first time I had a chance to vote, despite disagreeing with many of his domestic policies.

Russia is not and will not be our friend.

Repubicans used to understand this. Now, they are cult members.
 
For the conservative alphas only, stupid Dems ignore: Does anyone know if Biden ever lost his temper before? I'm trying to own some libcucktard posters and I need this information to completely DESTROY them.

I usually do my on research, so thanks.
Biden did call some media guys dumb SOB:)
 
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don't mean to impose but can you/ anyone briefly summarize what happened? the video in the second post appears to be 2 hours long, so i can't check it out at present
2 hours of video of monitoring marine guard outside WH. Then cut to oval office. Trump insulted Zalensky saying they were nothing without US aid. didn't acknowledge any of Ukraines fighting. Zalensky brought up history of 2014 Russian nonaggression treaty after they annexed Crimea. Z pointed out Putin lied and can't be trusted. JD intervened and started telling Zelensky he should be thanking DJT for a way out by diplomacy.

Voices raised. Tensions high. Trump talking his tough guy talk. Worst show of leadership and he's an embarrassment for the US.

I never thought I'd see anything like it. once you fast forward the real stuff is 20 minutes.
 
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