I used Flo’s big board for as many years as I could. Then I had a few years of Intermat when I couldn’t get a Flo ranking. And a couple might have been quoted from articles. Maybe I read a few wrong. You guys would know better than me, and if more than one of you is saying I’m wrong, then I probably am.
A LOT can happen between a verbal and the NLI signing. See Thomas Haines for example. Still, there is no doubt PSU had an eye for talent, but these guys are almost all signing when they are VERY proven.
Idk why this matters imo their final recruiting rankings are the best to go with here, because their entire high school story has been written.
Who gives a F what they were ranked when they committed. Their final ranking for the class is all that matters.
PSU guys trying to downplay the talent level they continually get is just lame as hell.Only #15...Carl sure does know how to roll the dice on those underdogs.
Thank you for rounding up this info; I’ll give you props you’ll do your work to win a debate lol. I’m still going to disagree on the injury aspect though. Look at that list; Lee, Kemerer, Marinelli,Warner,Ayala, and I’m pretty sure Evans all battled serious injuries while wrestling for the Hawks. So 6 outta the 8 and we’re yet to see with Kennedy. I mean if you can’t see that injuries have seriously F’d us dude I don’t know what to tell ya. It’s not some coincidence that it’s happening at this rate to our wrestlers. We should’ve had more than 2 of those blue chip recruits win titles but I fully believe most of that had to do with injuries.
Most DI NCAA Qualifiers are banged up going into NCAA's. It isn't just Iowa. Now, has Iowa had worse injuries to their top guys? Maybe. But, when you are the most visible program in the country(as much due to hate as to love) these things get magnified tenfold. Although I do think injuries are a legit reason to look to for underperformance, once they step on the mat, it doesn't matter.
All very true, it might sound obnoxious but PSU in wrestling is like the SEC in football. The last time a northern team won a national championship in football was the 2014 OSU team. Doesn't mean the other schools pack it in, it just means they need to step up their games.
Can you clarify that a little bit? Are you saying that Iowa has as much NIL money as psu?
When a guy has that many ACL tears, it's usually an anatomical vulnerability thing. Not much you can do about it.
It seems Tom has handed off the recruiting reins to M* and his brother. Show me any off campus pictures with recruits and it seems to be M* and secondarily Terry.
Dude you must be new here cause there’s literally a thread right beside this one talking about a man’s stink hole……
It's possible or maybe his strength in certain positions worked against his knee joints. He does seem quite strong.
He's incredibly flexible and frequently let guys put his knees in bad positions because he was able to maintain overall control. Served him well in the moment, but the amount of strain his knees underwent in scrambles was always scary.
Could play a role. When Bo Jackson had the career ending hip fracture, an orthopedic surgeon said it was caused by his strength. Most players muscles would have given out before the bone fractured.
Makes great sense, we can often over power a muscle or joint by placing them in a somewhat vulnerable position. It happens, I mean this is grappling , that's what the sport is all about.
I see you keep posting this. Do you have any proof behind these offers other than Tweets from Pat and comments on here from Fester? You seem to be very confident in this, so I assume you have the proof.
This is pretty much what I figured you'd say. You don't know shit lol.
I trust my people too, and they literally laughed when I asked about the numbers being thrown around. Keep pretending you have a clue though.
All I can say is if Iowa is throwing around six figure NIL deals to try and entice someone to come, I wonder what they are paying those to stay? You can't pay one and not the other and expect all to be good in the hood. Financial times must be quite prosperous.
I'd suggest you are talking to the wrong people. Spooner knows what's up.
