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The Murin hope is that he could help staunch the bleeding at 133. No given, to be sure.
We may find, over the next several weeks, that Wilcke and Warner are closer than we thought. That certainly adds an additional dimension to his redshirt decision, if Wilcke is farther along than we thought and Warner has a little more to go than we thought.
But the Lee decision is entirely independent. If Wilcke can (similarly to Warner) hit top 5 at 197, and we were already writing off 133 for team points, then you're still pairing Lee with Kemerer, Marinelli, Sorenson, PD3, Stoll, and Wilcke for a great group of fighters come tournament-time.
Wilson loses 5-3 against Raschka. Good tournament for Myles overall.
Costello goes down to Isley 3-2 in TB-1. Finishes 4th. Two tough OT losses to Gremmel and Isley for Costello. I think he has improved tremendously in the room.
Warner also best Dixon from Okie as well. I think Woodley is Oklahoma’s best 197 but he’s in the same position as Warner. Woodley is pretty good but a lesson for Warner about sitting on his butt with the lead. Warner is not redshirting for lack of talent...but size.
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The waiting for the handshake is hilarious
My takeaways from the past 18 hours:
- Lee’s redshirt needs to be pulled. He looks ready to win it now.
- Leave Warner’s shirt on ... his loss didn’t change my mind. Wilcke looks just about as good. Warner after a year of strength training will be scary.
- There is no solution for 133/141 this year. Murin could improve the situation, but he’s not ready to AA yet, so leave the shirt on. Gotta go Laux + Turk and just deal with it.
- Lee’s redshirt needs to be pulled. He looks ready to win it now.
- Leave Warner’s shirt on ... his loss didn’t change my mind. Wilcke looks just about as good. Warner after a year of strength training will be scary.
- There is no solution for 133/141 this year. Murin could improve the situation, but he’s not ready to AA yet, so leave the shirt on. Gotta go Laux + Turk and just deal with it.
Murin gets ridden almost entire period. Hart finally lets him out after he realizes he can't get riding time. Murin wins 3-1. Murin really struggles on the bottom.
Murin takes 3rd place with a 3-1 win. Great hustle and grit today, overall.
Murin wins 3-1 for 3rd! Like most freshman he needs work on bottom. Teachable skill
Overall Placements from today:
Spencer Lee - 1st Place
Myles Wilson - 2nd Place
Max Murin - 3rd Place
Jacob Warner - 3rd Place
Jeremiah Moody - 3rd Place
Keegan Shaw - 4th Place
Connor Corbin - 4th Place
Aaron Costello - 4th Place
Logan McQuillen - 5th Place
Aaron Meyer - 6th Place
Stephen Alvarez - DNP (0-2)
Zach Axmear - DNP (0-2)
Sam Cook - DNP (0-2)
Spencer Lee - 1st Place
Myles Wilson - 2nd Place
Max Murin - 3rd Place
Jacob Warner - 3rd Place
Jeremiah Moody - 3rd Place
Keegan Shaw - 4th Place
Connor Corbin - 4th Place
Aaron Costello - 4th Place
Logan McQuillen - 5th Place
Aaron Meyer - 6th Place
Stephen Alvarez - DNP (0-2)
Zach Axmear - DNP (0-2)
Sam Cook - DNP (0-2)
One thing that seems to have escaped most everyone's attention is the "savior" you're all looking forward to at 184 could throw a big monkey wrench into the 197 mess. First though, as I've said all along, it makes no sense to pull Warner's shirt when we have a capable body there already in Wilcke. I don't think there is enough difference between Warner and Wilcke to waste one of them sitting. Secondly (and this is hearsay, I don't follow any college athletes on Twitter) it sounds like Downey has been talking smack to a certain 197 pounder on Twitter, so he might have different ideas on how our line-up might look than all of you. I would hope Brands had struck a different deal with him, especially since it sounds like Wilcke and Warner both certified at 197. And lastly, call me a skeptic, but Downey still has some things to accomplish, and three months plus to behave himself before he can score points for us at NCAAs. Maybe today will slow down some of the "pull the shirt" talk, but there are more issues than that to deal with.
Spencer looked great today against less than impressive competition, but I still worry about his knee even though we could really use the points he'd bring us.
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but putting some food for thought out there.
Spencer looked great today against less than impressive competition, but I still worry about his knee even though we could really use the points he'd bring us.
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but putting some food for thought out there.
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And which "schtick" may that be? The one where I said that I Could be dead wrong on this one, or the "schtick where I said, Hence, the potential ignorance?
Can't get one by Spooner, eh, folks?Hes is a shaaaaarp cookie!
No.............
Spooner just needs whoever buys his underwear for him to start getting a size or two larger. That's all.
You would have never said that if Warner had won. Let the pouting begin.
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We may find, over the next several weeks, that Wilcke and Warner are closer than we thought. That certainly adds an additional dimension to his redshirt decision, if Wilcke is farther along than we thought and Warner has a little more to go than we thought.
But the Lee decision is entirely independent. If Wilcke can (similarly to Warner) hit top 5 at 197, and we were already writing off 133 for team points, then you're still pairing Lee with Kemerer, Marinelli, Sorenson, PD3, Stoll, and Wilcke for a great group of fighters come tournament-time.[/QUOTE]
I think you are dreaming unfortunately. I don't advocate pulling any shirts this year unless the kid and his family insist.
We may find, over the next several weeks, that Wilcke and Warner are closer than we thought. That certainly adds an additional dimension to his redshirt decision, if Wilcke is farther along than we thought and Warner has a little more to go than we thought.
But the Lee decision is entirely independent. If Wilcke can (similarly to Warner) hit top 5 at 197, and we were already writing off 133 for team points, then you're still pairing Lee with Kemerer, Marinelli, Sorenson, PD3, Stoll, and Wilcke for a great group of fighters come tournament-time.[/QUOTE]
I think you are dreaming unfortunately. I don't advocate pulling any shirts this year unless the kid and his family insist.
Lizak is not going to give Spencer much of a challenge.
I don't know that Lizak would ever get to be on top of Lee
Lee is every bit as good as Lizak from top and light years ahead from neutral. He will wreck him.
Tomasello and Suriano are the only two that will be competitive.
Tomasello and Suriano are the only two that will be competitive.
I think you are dreaming unfortunately. I don't advocate pulling any shirts this year unless the kid and his family insist.[/QUOTE]
Great set of reasons you got there.....because I’M DREAMING.
Troll free weekend, do not respond and block his dumb ass.
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