“Trump tried to take away my vote.”
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Correct. And I’ve lost my sense of humor about it.
A budget surplus, yes, but the debt still grew under Clinton.
At the end of the day tax cuts and spending more with no tax increases gets us to the same place on a long enough time line.
Regardless of your leanings, tribe, voting record we cannot sustain the current path both parties have us on.
You might get a hardon for the democrats because they say tax increases on rich but they don’t get it down. Meanwhile they spend like they did.
So are you ready to take on Medicare? It cant be done without taking on Medicare.
Yes, and cut the military to pay for it.
Also tax fat people.
New tax on second homes, new tax on cars over a certain dollar amount.
A law that says drug companies can’t charge more for a drug in one state/country vs another.
A new tax on cell phones. Since that is about the only thing everybody has.
You can’t spend like crazy on thousands of government programs because you are scared of reality. That makes no sense. None, zero.
Maybe a NASA type initiative focused on healthcare. I do think AI and robots will make healthcare cheaper.
When I see round hospitals and 4 story glass atriums on hospitals I get the feeling expenses on healthcare are somewhat inflated.
I work for a company that has two price lists. One for healthcare and one for non healthcare. Basically it’s well know. Healthcare don’t really give a shit about costs because they just pass it down and it’s clouded by insurance. Pretty good guess that we are not alone on that.
But, trickle down works, from Regan to present GOP says so! If it wasn't for those darn socialists thwarting it.
Michigan's fake GOP electors arraigned on state charges | CNN Politics
The 16 Michigan Republicans who served as fake electors in 2020 have pleaded not guilty to the first-of-their-kind felony charges stemming from the Trump-backed election subversion plot.
Trump was busy setting the table for a rigged election several months before Nov 2020. He knew in the Spring he was dead meat come Fall. Too many voters had been “keeping score “ since 2016 and decided long before Election Day Trump was an asshole of the highest rank and 4 years of his narcissist bullshit was enough. He got a lot votes for a loser. Biden got several million more votes.
After the election, Trump went full bore traitor and law breaker. Now, let us allow the legal system deal with the sumbitch.
After the election, Trump went full bore traitor and law breaker. Now, let us allow the legal system deal with the sumbitch.
Trickle up has to work better. Give some money to crack heads and the homeless and they will probably start the next Tesla.
How many people have a job owned by people poorer than them?
Because you conflate tax rates, with tax collections.
Tax collections are at a historical level, and would have provided genuine surpluses if the Feds had collected this much of GDP in revenue during the Clinton era.
Sad that our country is going to have to choose between the Biden crime family or the Trump insanity for our President. Our country is on a slippery slope downward and there is no stopping it.I have accused several posters of being bad Americans, and bad people, for continuing to defend Trump. This guy puts my feelings perfectly.
Trump tried to take away my vote
If that does not disgust and anger you, then you are no friend of mine. Worse, you are no friend of America.www.inquirer.com
In October 2020, my wife and I arrived in Philadelphia just in time to be registered voters in our new home. We joined a long line of folks at our early voting location to be certain our vote was counted.
This being Philadelphia, the line was a blend of young and old, white and Black and Latinx, gay and straight. Despite the 45-minute wait, folks were patient, polite, and happy. It was obvious that the majority were excited to exercise their right to vote, and that Joe Biden was their choice for president — except for the elderly couple just in front of us. The husband and wife were frail, in their late 80s, and somewhat unsteady on their feet. Even without speaking much, it became obvious that the gentleman did not share his line-mates’ enthusiasm for the Democrat.
We struck up a conversation about nonpolitical stuff. He was a Marine Corps veteran who had seen combat in the Korean War. I mentioned that I, too, had combat service in the Middle East, and we thanked each other for that shared commitment to our Constitution. As we climbed the final few steps into the polling place, I reached my hand out behind his back every time he started to stumble. But thankfully he righted himself and pressed on, determined to complete the task at hand.
My wife and I finished voting and walked outside. Our Marine friend was already there, anxiously waiting for his wife to come out of the building. I assured him that I saw her just finishing up and that she would be out shortly. We bid him farewell.
I have thought of that experience often since the events of November 2020, and again on Jan. 6, 2021. I was proud of our new city and state for conducting a well-administered election. I was well aware that there were those who tried to upend that effort. While reading the entire federal indictment of former President Donald Trumpreleased last week, those thoughts came rushing back.
The indictment is clear: Trump has been charged for his role in efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in Pennsylvania and six other battleground states.
Trump and his coconspirators tried to cancel my vote. They tried to cancel that Marine’s vote. They tried to cancel the votes of millions of folks from both parties and overrule the clear mandate of the electorate.
The fact that they did not succeed because other Americans would not let them is irrelevant. (Thank you, “too honest” Mike Pence.) Their nefarious goal was clear and unambiguous.
Read the indictment for yourself, and you will see that Trump tried in every way he could imagine to overturn a free and fair election. He knew it was free and fair despite every corrosive lie he told and continues to tell.
Those lies may be protected free speech. But his documented actions to subvert the election were not. Trump conspired to destroy the linchpin of our republic: our sacred vote.
Trump was abetted by numerous elected Pennsylvania Republicans, including State Sen. Doug Mastriano, in his attempt to reverse our decision. Their lack of fidelity to the Constitution and the laws of the land is a stain on their character that can never be erased. And one we should never forget.
Whatever you may think about our disagreements about politics, about President Biden, about Democrats or Republicans, or about policies you wish to support or not, remember this: Donald Trump tried to take away my vote and yours, disregarding my 32 years of service to the nation in support of the Constitution.
If that does not disgust and anger you, then you are no friend of mine. Worse, you are no friend of America if you do not walk away from Trump now. Because if he ever gets the chance, he’ll do it again.
Irv Halter is a retired U.S. Air Force major general and proud citizen of Philadelphia.
The slippery slope is the complete detachment from reality that tens of millions of Americans have made, so that politics has become faith based. Case in point, despite evidence you are willing to faithfully believe Biden is part of a “crime family”, which allows you to consider him to be no better than Trump.
Tax collections are up because the economy constantly grows and the value of the dollar constantly shrinks.
And the Clinton Era had a couple of surpluses in it's own right.
So, by just only watching fox news, you didn't hear about trump receiving 8 million bucks from overseas companies in violation of the Emoluments Law, and $8 million from China. You probably should rethink your stupid post.
As a percentage of GDP, not nominal dollars.
Tax collections in 2022 were 20% of GDP, but spending had swollen to 25% of GDP.
Debt went up every year under Clinton.
They only recorded surpluses if you don’t count the interest expense of the existing debt. We ended up borrowing money every year to be able to afford the previous borrowing.
Under the Clinton era ‘austerity’ of federal spending below 20% of GDP we’d have surpluses with these tax rates.
