Don't worry. They let Randi Weingarten and the teachers union write it for them. Right after declaring it was OK to protest because racism was more of a health hazard than COVID. Some real sharp people making these decisions, I tell you.
“We Need a Covid Commission” – Bill Maher Says Fauci and Democrats Refuse to Admit They Got It Wrong
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I liked when our VP said not to trust the vaccine because "Trump" and the left applauded her...then turned around and wanted to punish everyone who didn't trust the vaccine or want to take it...except for blacks of course because Biden said they experimented on the Tuskegee airmen (or some shit, lol). But hey...we shouldn't judge.
A lucky guess doesn't mean that's good science or good practice. Particularly if you are wrong more people die versus the more conservative approach where if you wrong the worst consequence is people are annoyed a little bit.
Here was the controversial thing they said that got them ostracized and shot off of social media.
“Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. Do we need to test them and get them back to work? Yes, we do,”
Oh the horror.
It was ALL guess work. Fauci, the WHO and many others were wrong and an entire generation of children are fvcked because of it. Again, they let the NEA write protocol. Tell me again about Randi Weingarten's medical expertise.
I had a pretty good grasp on things fairly early in the pandemic, feel free to review my posts in 2020. I gave a lot of evidence of the lab leak, I knew 6 feet was a random number, I advocated for sending kids back to school, I said kids didn't need the vaccine.
This news is important because the WHO pandemic accord/treaty is coming up soon (they are currentlyworkingon another draft). This would give all the powers during a pandemic to the global doctors at the who. They could decide how the usa has to respond. These are the same people fauci was working with.
They can't review the response because they are claiming "A pandemic accord is critical to safeguard our collective future. Only a strong global pact on pandemics can protect future generations from a repeat of the COVID-19 crisis, which led to millions of deaths and caused widespread social and economic devastation, owing not least to insufficient international collaboration,” the leaders write in their joint letter."
If people realize they didn't do that much right, then countries would be less likely to put the who in charge of the next pandemic.
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A high-powered intervention by 23 former national Presidents, 22 former Prime Ministers, a former UN General Secretary and 3 Nobel Laureates is being made today to press for an urgent agreement from international negotiators on a Pandemic Accord, under the Constitution of the World Health...
I'll tackle all of these:
1) we still haven't figured out the exact origin of covid 19. The lab leak is just one possibility.
2) So what if 6 feet was a random number? We know that close contact spreads viruses. They were likely going off of things they already knew and applied it to this virus. It's not like they had time to research the exact distance that was safe. It was a guideline.
3) In most places (here in Iowa) kids were really only out of school for about 3-4 months. Many were back in person at least part time by fall 2020. I still think pulling kids in March 2020 through the remainder of that school year was a good call. We didn't know much at all about this virus yet. Also, I think they likely knew kids were at a reduced risk for severe infection but wanted to try and make this didn't spread. I think at that point in the pandemic there was still hope they could curb the spread and this thing would sputter out.
4) That's fair but again I don't think kids were ever required to get the vaccine so it was a personal choice for many families.
Fair enough, I agree that my thoughts were not necessarily ground breaking, and there is lots of evidence to back it up so its not like I was going too far out on a limb, but I still had a bunch of people on here denying every word I said.
I'm curious what you think about the WHO pandemic accord/treaty that I posted 2 posts up? Do you know what it is?
That Osterholm dude is one of the nations top infectious disease docs and called out the bullshit on staying home and closing schools before it even happened. It was a dangerous display of groupthink that took over and any dissent was ridiculed.
Biden was too busy trying to fire 100,000,000 Americans from their jobs because they refused to take an experimental vaccine.
Except it wasn’t experimental.
Fact Check: No, the COVID-19 vaccines are not experimental
Social media posts have falsely claimed the COVID-19 vaccines currently being distributed in the U.S. are "experimental."
That’s the part of my post you focused on? Not the Biden administration attempting to put you out of work or close your business for not taking a vaccine?Except it wasn’t experimental.
Fact Check: No, the COVID-19 vaccines are not experimental
Social media posts have falsely claimed the COVID-19 vaccines currently being distributed in the U.S. are "experimental."www.kwqc.com
I can’t correct you all of the time. Your entire post is bullshit.
BINGO^^^^
No one, ( especially MAGA Trumpers) seem to want to recall some of the steps Trump took upon taking office to “reduce” the nation’s debt…. “Emergency response” took a big hit in Trump’s effort to make government “more efficient”…
Fauci was well informed from the beginning. In February of 2020 Fauci knew the structure of the virus, and was already talking about a vaccine being in the works. Fauci knew experiments were ongoing with gain of function on the SARS virus since 2014, and was well aware of the gain of function research being done by Ecohealth Alliance at the Wuhan lab.
It wasn't hindsight.
As I recall the Trump administration didn't fully fund the plan going in, and then when it was actually needed we quickly discovered that there were numerous elements of it that simply didn't work,.. One big issue was that at the start, the CDC had sole responsibility for development, manufacture and distribution of all vaccines,.. For an isolated outbreak this makes some sense, but for a national event it was totally inadequate, as the CDC was immediately overwhelmed...
Agree with most of this, including Trump’s complete incompetence. But it wasn’t that he “ignored” Covid. Quite the opposite. Daily panic briefings with Fauci/Birks, operation warp speed, criticism of governors like DeSantis and Kemp for reopening…
1.2M Americans dead; thousands of others dealing with the effects of Long Covid.
I think we did fine.
Idiots seem to think that scientists and policymakers have some kind of crystal ball, to see the future.
You've completely forgotten what the deaths numbers looked like 1 month in, how we were running out of supplies/PPE and how no one knew what medications would work to keep people alive.
Weird that we would need that office in China. Why not Belgium?
As if we were lied to deliberately about covid being a lab leak by the very people that were supposed to protect us and illegally funded gain of function research in China.
Look at the liar in residence continuing to sell his bullshit.
A reminder of how it went.
First Biden and Pelosi called people Xenophobes and racists when they suggested we may want to avoid incoming flights from China.
When the president kept calling it the “Chinese virus” he was berated as a racist even as Communist Party of China officials lied that the bug had been spread by the American military.
Then CNN complained that the president’s coronavirus task force exemplified the “Trump administration’s lack of diversity,” as if race or gender were more important than assembling the best brains.
Meanwhile, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, rather than concentrating on not botching the rollout of coronavirus test kits, spent time clogging its COVID-19 public-information Web page with gratuitous admonitions about “stigma.”
At the top of the CDC “Frequently Asked Questions” page, two of four items headlined “Basics” are about stigma: “How can people help stop stigma related to COVID-19?”
Under “Symptoms and Testing,” one-third of topics involve stigma.
You have to scroll past these irrelevancies to find important health information, such as “Can the virus . . . be spread through food” and “How can I protect my child.
Then of course, the CDC and the left magically decided at the same time that it was perfectly safe to protest the police but dangerous as hell to be on the beach in Florida.
First Biden and Pelosi called people Xenophobes and racists when they suggested we may want to avoid incoming flights from China.
When the president kept calling it the “Chinese virus” he was berated as a racist even as Communist Party of China officials lied that the bug had been spread by the American military.
Then CNN complained that the president’s coronavirus task force exemplified the “Trump administration’s lack of diversity,” as if race or gender were more important than assembling the best brains.
Meanwhile, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, rather than concentrating on not botching the rollout of coronavirus test kits, spent time clogging its COVID-19 public-information Web page with gratuitous admonitions about “stigma.”
At the top of the CDC “Frequently Asked Questions” page, two of four items headlined “Basics” are about stigma: “How can people help stop stigma related to COVID-19?”
Under “Symptoms and Testing,” one-third of topics involve stigma.
You have to scroll past these irrelevancies to find important health information, such as “Can the virus . . . be spread through food” and “How can I protect my child.
Then of course, the CDC and the left magically decided at the same time that it was perfectly safe to protest the police but dangerous as hell to be on the beach in Florida.
You are literally making shit up here.
No one knows how many people died of covid because they lied throughout about literally everything
You are one of their useful idiots.
We don't know that. Dying from COVID is not the same as dying with COVID. That distinction has been discussed many. many times.
“You know we have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China," Biden said then. "The national emergency and worldwide alerts. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it. That he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of a president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump's record of hysterical xenophobia and fear mongering to lead the way instead of science."
Back to the same old One Trick Pony, shit.
We've been over this, many times. Covid deaths were treated the same as flu deaths.
Toxic: How the search for the origins of COVID-19 turned politically poisonous
DAKE KANG and MARIA CHENGUpdated Mon, April 22, 2024 at 5:21 AM CDT·14 min read
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FILE - A security person moves journalists away from the Wuhan Institute of Virology after a World Health Organization team arrived for a field visit in Wuhan in China's Hubei province on Feb. 3, 2021. The hunt for COVID-19 origins has gone dark in China. An AP investigation drawing on thousands of pages of undisclosed emails and documents and dozens of interviews found feuding officials and fear of blame ended meaningful Chinese and international efforts to trace the virus almost as soon as they began, despite years of public statements to the contrary. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan, File)ASSOCIATED PRESS
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BEIJING (AP) — The hunt for the origins of COVID-19 has gone dark in China, the victim of political infighting after a series of stalled and thwarted attempts to find the source of the virus that killed millions and paralyzed the world for months.
The Chinese government froze meaningful domestic and international efforts to trace the virus from the first weeks of the outbreak, despite statements supporting open scientific inquiry, an Associated Press investigation found. That pattern continues to this day, with labs closed, collaborations shattered, foreign scientists forced out and Chinese researchers barred from leaving the country.
The investigation drew on thousands of pages of undisclosed emails and documents and dozens of interviews that showed the freeze began far earlier than previously known and involved political and scientific infighting in China as much as international finger-pointing.
As early as Jan. 6, 2020, health officials in Beijing closed the lab of a Chinese scientist who sequenced the virus and barred researchers from working with him.Scientists warn the willful blindness over coronavirus’ origins leaves the world vulnerable to another outbreak, potentially undermining pandemic treaty talks coordinated by the World Health Organization set to culminate in May.
At the heart of the question is whether the virus jumped from an animal or came from a laboratory accident. A U.S. intelligence analysis says there is insufficient evidence to prove either theory, but the debate has further tainted relations between the U.S. and China.
Unlike in the U.S., there is virtually no public debate in China about whether the virus came from nature or from a lab leak. In fact, there is little public discussion at all about the source of the disease, first detected in the central city of Wuhan.
Crucial initial efforts were hampered by bureaucrats in Wuhan trying to avoid blame who misled the central government; the central government, which muzzled Chinese scientists and subjected visiting WHO officials to stage-managed tours; and the U.N. health agency itself, which may have compromised early opportunities to gather critical information in hopes that by placating China, scientists could gain more access, according to internal materials obtained by AP.
In a faxed statement, China's Foreign Ministry defended China’s handling of research into the origins, saying the country is open and transparent, shared data and research, and “made the greatest contribution to global origins research.” The National Health Commission, China's top medical authority, said the country “invested huge manpower, material and financial resources” and “has not stopped looking for the origins of the coronavirus.”
It could have played out differently, as shown by the outbreak of SARS, a genetic relative of COVID-19, nearly 20 years ago. China initially hid infections then, but WHO complained swiftly and publicly. Ultimately, Beijing fired officials and made reforms. The U.N. agency soon found SARS likely jumped to humans from civet cats in southern China and international scientists later collaborated with their Chinese counterparts to pin down bats as SARS’ natural reservoir.
But different leaders of both China and WHO, China’s quest for control of its researchers, and global tensions have all led to silence when it comes to searching for COVID-19’s origins. Governments in Asia are pressuring scientists not to look for the virus for fear it could be traced inside their borders.
Even without those complications, experts say identifying how outbreaks begin is incredibly challenging and that it’s rare to know with certainty how some viruses begin spreading.
“It’s disturbing how quickly the search for the origins of (COVID-19) escalated into politics,” said Mark Woolhouse, a University of Edinburgh outbreak expert. “Now this question may never be definitively answered.”
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Outside of the Spring of 2020 there was no mandate to close schools at a national level. If schools were closed that was done at the local level. You are trying to blame these people for decisions made by local school boards. Seems like an overreach.
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