Because accepting the failed citizenry of shithole countries isn't a good strategy for civilized societies.
"1. Get as many illegals in the country as possible. 2. Legalize them to create a permanent majority – a one-party state."
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Because accepting the failed citizenry of shithole countries isn't a good strategy for civilized societies.
How can a bill that comprises the wish list of one party and offers NOTHING be considered a starting point? They’re literally starting with something that they already know the answer to.
There’s not one political fog leaf for Dems in that bill, and that’s not how you start a conversation.
because now they need it for political theater and to scream about it to get elected
and they know the people who will vote for them don't remember (or don't care) that they didn't give a sh*t about the issue for decades
Opposing bills become milestones of the negotiation process,.. the conversation continues until common ground can be agreed upon....
Weird how that’s worked pretty good for us historically.
MAGA Republicans aren't negotiating, Cletus.
In case you haven't been paying attention.
unless the guy who gives everyone their marching orders says that no deals can be reached (until he's in office again)
You are probably a descendant of one of the European "shithole countries" of the 1800s/1900s, Cletus.
Well now there are two bills that define the opposing positions,.. negotiations can proceed from here.
Pretty certain he now lives in a shithole small town.
lol.
One of those bills is ALREADY bipartisan, it represents both sides as is!
Short of democrats conceding to every demand from the House GOP there’s no negotiating that can occur here. They’re not behaving in good faith here.
There will be no negotiation. The House gop has already said the senate bill is dead.
The Senate bill was a compromise from both parties.
HR2 was not.
Understand that difference?
Correct,.. House needs to develop, pass, and turn over to the Senate a compromise bill.
A compromise between warhawks that care more about the MIC and Ukraine than their own country.
But the GOP is fine elevating a monumentally failed (and flat out disgusting) citizen with a wife from a shithole country as their presidential nominee??
If you seriously think that’s going to happen, I’d like the name of your dealer.
Why do you get to be the arbiter for what qualifies as a compromise?
Members of the two major parties got together and produced a bill that both sides can live with. Whether or not you agree with the end product, that’s the definition of a compromise.
You started by talking about how everyone is uninformed and then went on to show how uniformed you are. It's been effective though so I guess why stop now.
You're talking to a brick wall (literally in terms of intelligence) with Northern. He's nothing but a spouse abusing twat waffle.
This has been the Democrat plan for a while now. Not sure how it can can denied.Musk says Biden opened border floodgates so Democrats can stay in power
Musk, a legal immigrant from South Africa, went on to pin his post to the top of his X page account, adding in the caption "This explains why there are so few deportations, as every deportation is a lost vote."
"As happened this week, you can literally assault police officers in broad daylight in New York, be released with no bail, give everyone the finger and *still* not be deported!! Outrageous."
Musk says Biden opened border floodgates so Democrats can stay in power
Elon Musk has railed against President Biden’s approach the southern border arguing he letting millions of people into the country so Democrats can permanently stay in power.www.foxnews.com
Enough that they are filibuster proof, I’ve heard it could easily get 70 votes combined.
So maybe 20 Republicans out of the entire senate and house. Warhawks and Mitt. Congratulations!
Oh no, it might not have unanimous approval…
It’s okay to admit there’s no bill here that could ever possibly satisfy you, and save us all some time..
the only bill they would support would be one sentence long:
Do whatever Trump says.
it's their only real policy, regardless of the topic of discussion
You could start enforcing current laws that are being ignored, end the sham asylum claims and build massive detention centers for starters.
enforcing current law means you can't just "end the sham asylum claims"...current law doesn't allow for immediate deportation just because you (or anyone else) thinks their claim is a sham. if they claim asylum...they go into the process. that's the current law
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS THE PROPOSED BILL IS TRYING FIX!
I get that. Change that and start enforcing the laws that they're currently ignoring.
Apparently, you don't.
House Republicans can fix this TOMORROW. Maybe call a few of them and explain your disappointment in their progress...
are you serious?
this bill changes that. and it's being rejected. not even allowed to be voted on
without this bill (or something similar) all the issues with the asylum system remain
Don’t blame me, I voted for the guy whose wife entered the country illegally and then got legalized.
don't blame me, i voted for the guy who employs illegal immigrants at his various resorts and golf courses
This bill is window dressing on asylum along with countless goodies for the dems.
Add to that the fact that this adminstration has encouraged the surge. They are not trustworthy.
So, the "plan" is and apparently has been to get illegals immigrants across the boarder (in couples) that will one day have kids who then grow up to be democratic voter? How long has this plan been going and how well has it worked? Do you have any specific data?
yeah...you seem to have a real lock on the actual contents of the bill so we'll just take your vague assertions at face value...
and i think the people screaming about how anyone can easily get across the border are just as guilty for encouraging the surge
this bill helps address the issue...if the border is as bad as some people say, you'd think some improvement would be better than just maintaining status quo...but i guess not
