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100% On Topic and Civil Thread on AJ Ferrari's Wrestling Future

Absolutely untrue. By your reasoning the vaccine must be perfect since I have been fully vaccinated as was my wife. Neither of us has had Covid.
Congratulations, were you in hiding for months on end, or working with the general public face to face the whole pandemic?
 
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Congratulations, were you in hiding for months on end, or working with the general public face to face the whole pandemic?

I jumped to the end of this thread...hoping to read something of importance.

Instead this BS.

Ya all know the forum below this is for these types of conversations?

Oh...and by the way....I spent all of COVID at Walmart...for 12 to 15 hours a day...I didn't catch as much as a cold....but again....this site provides a place for that type of conversation....one forum below this one.
 
This tread is epic. Now we are going back to the Covid bullshit. I knew from day one the danger of this virus to the general public was way overblown. I also knew wearing paper and cloth masks were a joke, as was the random pieces of plexiglass put up in stores. Flies could get into to sides of those masks, and birds could fly around those pieces of plexiglass, but I guess a microscopic virus couldn’t do the same. I went months without getting COVID until I got the vaccine, then I got it three times. It’s been proven now that it makes you more susceptible to getting COVID.
Well, if the thread wasn't "epic" before, it sure is now.
 
I haven't read the prior 11 pages, but anyone other than me think a 225 AJ, not only won't go down to 197, but he beats Cassi for the HWT slot, or redshirts.
What a great problem that would be! That said, if AJ can beat Cass, but can't win it all (i.e., Gable definitely returns), I'd prefer we do as you mentioned and redshirt him if it's an option. If that's not an option then my vote is to put the best 10 men on the mat and let it fly.
 
and if you really think that...i don't know how you say this (no one knowing anything) makes you believe his innocence more than if he went to trial and was acquitted

just a weird position to hold
It’s how it works. Investigation, file charges, go to trial , guilt or acquittal. If the case is too weak to go to trial there’s a greater chance he’s innocent.

Maybe they believe she’s lying? Women do lie you know.
 
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Congratulations, were you in hiding for months on end, or working with the general public face to face the whole pandemic?
Actually I spent time working in the hospital helping treat people after getting vaccinated. I even went to the 2020 nationals in St Louis as well as every other nationals since 1981.(except 2019) I did make 2 concessions. I drove to St Louis instead of flying and I wore masks religiously.
a good lawyer will tell you: do not ask a witness a question that you do not know the answer.
 
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What a great problem that would be! That said, if AJ can beat Cass, but can't win it all (i.e., Gable definitely returns), I'd prefer we do as you mentioned and redshirt him if it's an option. If that's not an option then my vote is to put the best 10 men on the mat and let it fly.
I think we’ll see AJ at 97. This would make for a pretty salty lineup.
125-Drake
134- Brody/Cullan
141-Real
149-Caleb/Cobe/Victor
157-Jared
166-Michael/Patrick (new weight class)
174-Nelson
184-Abe
197-Albert
285-Anthony
How the lineup looks in March will be interesting.
 
Actually I spent time working in the hospital helping treat people after getting vaccinated. I even went to the 2020 nationals in St Louis as well as every other nationals since 1981.(except 2019) I did make 2 concessions. I drove to St Louis instead of flying and I wore masks religiously.
a good lawyer will tell you: do not ask a witness a question that you do not know the answer.
I was also at nationals in STL in 2020. East STL was hoping. Didn't get covid but came home with pink eye.
 
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Actually I spent time working in the hospital helping treat people after getting vaccinated. I even went to the 2020 nationals in St Louis as well as every other nationals since 1981.(except 2019) I did make 2 concessions. I drove to St Louis instead of flying and I wore masks religiously.
a good lawyer will tell you: do not ask a witness a question that you do not know the answer.
Unless you want to see what kind of story that witness will make up, so you can pigeon hole them and swing back to it at a later time! ;)
 
It’s how it works. Investigation, file charges, go to trial , guilt or acquittal. If the case is too weak to go to trial there’s a greater chance he’s innocent.

Maybe they believe she’s lying? Women do lie you know.
no one knows whether she's lying or she's decided it's not worth it to go through the trial and have her entire life scrutinized

the only way you think one is more likely is because you are ASSUMING it to be the case

look, you're more comfortable relying on your assumptions than actual information. this is clear
 
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no one knows whether she's lying or she's decided it's not worth it to go through the trial and have her entire life scrutinized

the only way you think one is more likely is because you are ASSUMING it to be the case

look, you're more comfortable relying on your assumptions than actual information. this is clear
But, aren't you doing the exact same thing? It basically is a 100% he said, she said thing. Until the trial happened and the evidence, or lack thereof, had been presented,the only right answer would be to sit squarely in the middle. Once the case was dropped, I don't see how you don't lean towards the person's innocence, UNLESS you are privy to some type of a deal being made between the 2 parties. Now, if that were the case, I would think anyone with a brain would absolutely lean in her direction...
 
But, aren't you doing the exact same thing? It basically is a 100% he said, she said thing. Until the trial happened and the evidence, or lack thereof, had been presented,the only right answer would be to sit squarely in the middle. Once the case was dropped, I don't see how you don't lean towards the person's innocence, UNLESS you are privy to some type of a deal being made between the 2 parties. Now, if that were the case, I would think anyone with a brain would absolutely lean in her direction...
the middle is exactly where i am.

this all started because bnb said dropped charges makes him believe AJ's innocence more than a trial and acquittal. i think that's an insane position to hold.
 
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the middle is exactly where i am.

this all started because bnb said dropped charges makes him believe AJ's innocence more than a trial and acquittal. i think that's an insane position to hold.
I missed that part. I thought he said it meant he is more likely innocent. However, I would 100% agree with you that dropped charges DO NOT REMOTELY mean he is more likely innocent than an actual trial, where all the facts were properly presented and the accused ending up being found not guilty....
 
Lol, this is incredible.

You are judging Ferrari based on your belief that he's toxic, his poor social media antics, and his character, yet you're an ardent Trump supporter. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
Could it be possible he supports the policies of Trump, and not the man? Could it be his life was better off because of those policies? What is laughable is how the corruptness and moralities of the current and past Presidents are ignored or worse yet, believed that they were not. There are plenty of very objectible things that could be used to make the argument that we were better off and safer during his time in office. Some you may actually get to see today.
 
I did for 20 years. Thom is spot on.
He's also leaving off the fact that nearly all the people who are dying are the elderly and medically fragile. He's not admitting that we really do not know the long term effects of the vaccine. He's not 100% correct. He says those who disagree with him are just right wing extremists. You will also see that he repeated pretty much exactly what I said in his first two sentences. I say his side are the beneficiaries of the money and propaganda behind Big Pharma. You had talking heads (left wing extremists) saying there is no way you would get Covid if you got vaccinated. They lied. Then they said if you got vaccinated you could not transmit the virus. They lied. You know who sponsored their shows - you guessed it - Pfizer and the like.

And don't spout this crap that Covid was only politicized by the right. It was used, very effectively I might add by the left, to broaden mail in voting. Funny how that worked out. Save how knowledgeable you are about the whole topic because we are at the infancy stages of knowing.
 
I missed that part. I thought he said it meant he is more likely innocent. However, I would 100% agree with you that dropped charges DO NOT REMOTELY mean he is more likely innocent than an actual trial, where all the facts were properly presented and the accused ending up being found not guilty....
Why? Both sides see all the evidence prior to trial and the prosecution for some reason believes they cannot win. There is no more innocent now than then, the presumption is innocence legally until evidence is presented at trial and he is found guilty. There was no trial, hence he is innocent 100% according to the law.
 
Why? Both sides see all the evidence prior to trial and the prosecution for some reason believes they cannot win. There is no more innocent now than then, the presumption is innocence legally until evidence is presented at trial and he is found guilty. There was no trial, hence he is innocent 100% according to the law.
OMG it's a dinosaur someone who believes in innocent until proven guilty AMERICA
 
Actually I spent time working in the hospital helping treat people after getting vaccinated. I even went to the 2020 nationals in St Louis as well as every other nationals since 1981.(except 2019) I did make 2 concessions. I drove to St Louis instead of flying and I wore masks religiously.
a good lawyer will tell you: do not ask a witness a question that you do not know the answer.
I was actually curious, not a got ya.
 
Last I saw AJ looked HUGE! What he weighs, no idea. I believe you will be able to look to F*** st and the great Kralure and what happens with babbling books for what will transpire.

Even Kralure's secret source that he has been using will not help babbling! He will be a lil man moving up to face a BIG man coming down!!! My guess is they will be watching closely and if you see babbling back at 184, you know AJ is coming!!!!
 
Why? Both sides see all the evidence prior to trial and the prosecution for some reason believes they cannot win. There is no more innocent now than then, the presumption is innocence legally until evidence is presented at trial and he is found guilty. There was no trial, hence he is innocent 100% according to the law.
The problem is you are making a HUGE leap in that assumption. Many prosecutors do not want to risk losing and/or investing resources and time into something where the risk could be significant. In many cases, they don't believe they are wrong, they just believe they don't have enough evidence to risk losing.

That is a giant difference from presenting everything and a jury of peers finding the person not guilty. In your situation, you are making assumptions. In the other, there is a 100% concrete decision which ends with the accused NO LONGER EVER having to worry about being charged for that exact crime again.

Edited to add: Another major component is, under the position you are arguing, there is still the possibility of the charges being reinstated, until the statute of limitiations(if there even is one in this case under that jurisdiction) runs out...There is NO WAY you would rather have your outcome over the other. But, the stress of the case and waiting for the verdict is something I am sure he is now happy to have avoided.
 
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OMG it's a dinosaur someone who believes in innocent until proven guilty AMERICA
That is such a weak minded argument. Now, there are times where the evidence can get out into the public eye in high profile cases, wherein you can make an educated decision. However, that is quite rare.

Remember, for the trial to be fair and just, you need a COMPLETELY impartial jury. If no one can presume innocence until the facts presented prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, how in the hell could ANYONE get a fair and just trial???
 
Last I saw AJ looked HUGE! What he weighs, no idea. I believe you will be able to look to F*** st and the great Kralure and what happens with babbling books for what will transpire.

Even Kralure's secret source that he has been using will not help babbling! He will be a lil man moving up to face a BIG man coming down!!! My guess is they will be watching closely and if you see babbling back at 184, you know AJ is coming!!!!
He is ripped, but looks like he could make 197. He said he plans to go 205 in mma, so I’m sure he could make 197. Say what you want about the Ferrari’s, but they are very disciplined in the training and weight control, not just in season.
 
Why? Both sides see all the evidence prior to trial and the prosecution for some reason believes they cannot win. There is no more innocent now than then, the presumption is innocence legally until evidence is presented at trial and he is found guilty. There was no trial, hence he is innocent 100% according to the law.
no one is arguing he's not 100% innocent according to the law. innocent until proven guilty...we all agree. you can step down off that particluar soapbox

its funny becuase you've constructed this situation in which if AJ went to trial and was acquitted you'd still have doubts about his innocence (or at least MORE doubts about his innocence than if the charges were dropped)...which contradicts your dedication to the notion of innocent until proven guilty
 
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Could it be possible he supports the policies of Trump, and not the man? Could it be his life was better off because of those policies? What is laughable is how the corruptness and moralities of the current and past Presidents are ignored or worse yet, believed that they were not. There are plenty of very objectible things that could be used to make the argument that we were better off and safer during his time in office. Some you may actually get to see today.

Yeah he has the best policies. Like attempting to overturn an election and install himself as dictator and suspend the constitution. Twist yourself into a pretzel defending him.
 
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Last I saw AJ looked HUGE! What he weighs, no idea. I believe you will be able to look to F*** st and the great Kralure and what happens with babbling books for what will transpire.

Even Kralure's secret source that he has been using will not help babbling! He will be a lil man moving up to face a BIG man coming down!!! My guess is they will be watching closely and if you see babbling back at 184, you know AJ is coming!!!!

Cringe.
 
and if you really think that...i don't know how you say this (no one knowing anything) makes you believe his innocence more than if he went to trial and was acquitted

just a weird position to hold
Why? There are levels of credibility, why can't you and others understand if it's not solid enough to go to trial it is more likely that he is innocent. Newsflash, he is innocent legally until he is convicted and since they dropped the case, he's legally innocent.
 
Oh please - keep telling yourself that he was a dictator. I believe a better indicator of a dictator is one who ignores the constitution and promises things he knows you can't legally deliver on. Sound familiar?

Feel safer today than you did 4 years ago? Or did the Orange Man scare you so much you can't even realize what's going on in the world today. But I thought he was the one to bring the world to war? Snowflakes.
 
Oh please - keep telling yourself that he was a dictator. I believe a better indicator of a dictator is one who ignores the constitution and promises things he knows you can't legally deliver on. Sound familiar?

Feel safer today than you did 4 years ago? Or did the Orange Man scare you so much you can't even realize what's going on in the world today. But I thought he was the one to bring the world to war? Snowflakes.

He's a failed dictator. Just because he's incompetent and the military told him they won't support his coup, doesn't mean that he isn't a wannabe dictator. He outright tried to overthrow a democratic election and wanted to suspend the constitution.


It sounds like you believe Trump that he'd end the Israel Palestine war in 24 hours. 🙄



You're going to go down with the ship huh? Or going to flee like a rat when he's convicted of felonies and sentenced to prison?
 
He's a failed dictator. Just because he's incompetent and the military told him they won't support his coup, doesn't mean that he isn't a wannabe dictator. He outright tried to overthrow a democratic election and wanted to suspend the constitution.


It sounds like you believe Trump that he'd end the Israel Palestine war in 24 hours. 🙄



You're going to go down with the ship huh? Or going to flee like a rat when he's convicted of felonies and sentenced to prison?
Boy you are a unbelievable stupid ass!!!

IF he tried to overturn the election, believe me, it would have been done. What he did do was call for an investigation into the fraud which EVERYONE with at least 1/2 a brain knows took place!

Do to how deep the swamp is, it was stone walled at every point. If you believe EVERY poll, EVERY indicator, AND the fact that the actual votes being tallied showed the GREAT TRUMP winning, and he lost.

Well I have a bridge to sell you so go ask you stepmom for more money you special interest anti-American scumbag!!!
 
Boy you are a unbelievable stupid ass!!!

IF he tried to overturn the election, believe me, it would have been done. What he did do was call for an investigation into the fraud which EVERYONE with at least 1/2 a brain knows took place!

Do to how deep the swamp is, it was stone walled at every point. If you believe EVERY poll, EVERY indicator, AND the fact that the actual votes being tallied showed the GREAT TRUMP winning, and he lost.

Well I have a bridge to sell you so go ask you stepmom for more money you special interest anti-American scumbag!!!
J6 failure of a coup. 91 felony counts and 4 indictments. Bye bye Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser! 😭 Jail bait!
 
He's a failed dictator. Just because he's incompetent and the military told him they won't support his coup, doesn't mean that he isn't a wannabe dictator. He outright tried to overthrow a democratic election and wanted to suspend the constitution.


It sounds like you believe Trump that he'd end the Israel Palestine war in 24 hours. 🙄



You're going to go down with the ship huh? Or going to flee like a rat when he's convicted of felonies and sentenced to prison?
And you have the nerve to call others cultists - you couldn't more exemplify one if you tried.

As far as the war being ended - let me know when one began under that administration. Other countries smell our weakness - or is that wokeness?

He won't go to jail. The whole plan is to distract and deplete. Glad you enjoy your 3rd World politics. Democrats and the MSM better hope he doesn't win because those 20 shell companies and 180 plus reported acts of suspicious intent won't be swept under the rug. Maybe you missed those?
 
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