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And you have the nerve to call others cultists - you couldn't more exemplify one if you tried.

As far as the war being ended - let me know when one began under that administration. Other countries smell our weakness - or is that wokeness?

He won't go to jail. The whole plan is to distract and deplete. Glad you enjoy your 3rd World politics. Democrats and the MSM better hope he doesn't win because those 20 shell companies and 180 plus reported acts of suspicious intent won't be swept under the rug. Maybe you missed those?
You are a weird ****ing dude that is completely lost in propaganda while acting like you’re above the fray. Be better and not such a partisan dumb**** all the time. Now carry on with your utter bullshit.
 
And you have the nerve to call others cultists - you couldn't more exemplify one if you tried.

As far as the war being ended - let me know when one began under that administration. Other countries smell our weakness - or is that wokeness?

He won't go to jail. The whole plan is to distract and deplete. Glad you enjoy your 3rd World politics. Democrats and the MSM better hope he doesn't win because those 20 shell companies and 180 plus reported acts of suspicious intent won't be swept under the rug. Maybe you missed those?

Embarrassing and pathetic to read. Do you talk about this shit in public or just on internet forums with other cultists?

If I heard anyone in person talking this way, I'm immediately writing them off as a deranged brainwashed cultist with TDS.

In a normal word, people who think you like make up less than 10% of the population. Unfortunately, we're living in Idiocracy and there's tens of millions of rubes like you walking our streets, driving cars, and voting.

There's absolutely zero defense for Trump's attempt at overthrowing democracy and you know that which is why you and the other cultists' only response to the criticism is "he wasn't trying to overturn the election". I can't imagine being that uninformed and delusional. You know how flat earthers are judged? MAGA is just the same way. Just a cult of completely brainwashed nutjobs who've sold their souls to a narcissistic grifter.
 
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You are a weird ****ing dude that is completely lost in propaganda while acting like you’re above the fray. Be better and not such a partisan dumb**** all the time. Now carry on with your utter bullshit.
Just for the sake of consistency in pointing out hypocrisies, what is your political party of choice?
 
Just for the sake of consistency in pointing out hypocrisies, what is your political party of choice?
I’m a lifelong conservative that is currently without a political party because the Republican Party is an an absolute mess. This is also a wrestling board, I’m an Iowa fan, so my political preference should not be a discussion.
 
I’m a lifelong conservative that is currently without a political party because the Republican Party is an an absolute mess. This is also a wrestling board, I’m an Iowa fan, so my political preference should not be a discussion.
But, you absolutely do open yourself up to it when you go after someone as hard as you did for being “partisan”. Also, I admittedly find it very hard to believe that you are, or ever were, a conservative when all the laughing emoticons were placed on every conservative viewpoint, even the tamer ones and not once did you do so when the opposite viewpoints were expressed.

Just because you don’t like the rift in the current party structure(I truly hate it as well), it wouldn’t/shouldn’t make you change your belief structure if it indeed was as “lifelong” as you say…
 
I’m a lifelong conservative that is currently without a political party because the Republican Party is an an absolute mess. This is also a wrestling board, I’m an Iowa fan, so my political preference should not be a discussion.
You don’t need a party man, if your conservative, just vote for the most conservative candidate 😉
 
But, you absolutely do open yourself up to it when you go after someone as hard as you did for being “partisan”. Also, I admittedly find it very hard to believe that you are, or ever were, a conservative when all the laughing emoticons were placed on every conservative viewpoint, even the tamer ones and not once did you do so when the opposite viewpoints were expressed.

Just because you don’t like the rift in the current party structure(I truly hate it as well), it would t make you change your belief structure if it indeed was as “lifelong” as you say…

Most reasoned, well informed, and well intentioned citizens would absolutely change their belief structure (or at least tribe) if their tribe leader co-opted the tribe in pursuit of absolute power.

Trump is a RINO anyway which is absolutely hilarious considering his brainwashed cultists will use that to attack the true lifelong conservatives who were criticizing Trump dating back to when he was a Democrat.
 
Most reasoned, well informed, and well intentioned citizens would absolutely change their belief structure (or at least tribe) if their tribe leader co-opted the tribe in pursuit of absolute power.

Trump is a RINO anyway which is absolutely hilarious considering his brainwashed cultists will use that to attack the true lifelong conservatives who were criticizing Trump dating back to when he was a Democrat.
Read what I posted again. I never said he couldn’t or shouldn’t leave the party. I talked about his conservative belief structure. If he wanted to leave the party I respect that choice, even if I don’t disagree with it.

My question was more about believing him when he said he was a conservative for life…
 
Most reasoned, well informed, and well intentioned citizens would absolutely change their belief structure (or at least tribe) if their tribe leader co-opted the tribe in pursuit of absolute power.

Trump is a RINO anyway which is absolutely hilarious considering his brainwashed cultists will use that to attack the true lifelong conservatives who were criticizing Trump dating back to when he was a Democrat.
Also, you keep painting every conservative into a corner with Trump. I told you from the beginning I want him out. Hell, I even said I want him convicted so he would be out of the race. However, from what I am reading on even left leaning articles, there is nothing clear in the law that would stop him from running even from prison.

As sad as it is to say, I think he is probably the Republican candidate no matter what. If he is, the Democrat party could run a mannequin against him and win…
 
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But, you absolutely do open yourself up to it when you go after someone as hard as you did for being “partisan”. Also, I admittedly find it very hard to believe that you are, or ever were, a conservative when all the laughing emoticons were placed on every conservative viewpoint, even the tamer ones and not once did you do so when the opposite viewpoints were expressed.

Just because you don’t like the rift in the current party structure(I truly hate it as well), it wouldn’t/shouldn’t make you change your belief structure if it indeed was as “lifelong” as you say…
Did I go after someone hard? I haven’t really seen any “conservative” viewpoints here I guess. I’ll just continue to laugh at your long-winded dumb ass.
 
Read what I posted again. I never said he couldn’t or shouldn’t leave the party. I talked about his conservative belief structure. If he wanted to leave the party I respect that choice, even if I don’t disagree with it.

My question was more about believing him when he said he was a conservative for life…

Many people think the modern Republican party isn't conservative. It's a MAGA cult.

It's certainly not fiscally conservative except when the Dems hold the presidency and they want to cry about the budget and threaten a shutdown, even though Trump increased the deficit by more than any other president in history in a 4 year period of time.

It's certainly not small government and supportive of individuals' rights.

The modern GQP is a theocratic MAGA fascist party that relies upon restricting voter turnout, gerrymandering voting districts, and propagating cultural fear and outrage on a 24/7 basis to scare their base into going to the polls because on policy itself, they're doing nothing for Americans and they know they won't win elections if every eligible voter went to the polls. These are objective facts, and I say this as a moderate independent. Reasonable people do not view the MAGA GQP as a serious political organization. It's a cult. They don't support serious policy to address any real issues in this country. The woke nonsense is all a distraction from real issues - healthcare, education, infrastructure, individual rights and liberty.

Before I vote, I Google the Republican politicians name alongside "Trump" or "stolen election". If they haven't condemned Trump and his stolen election claims, then I immediately refuse to consider voting for them. The single most important policy issue in America is whether the politicians are pro democracy and pro constitution.
 
Also, you keep painting every conservative into a corner with Trump. I told you from the beginning I want him out. Hell, I even said I want him convicted so he would be out of the race. However, from what I am reading on even left leaning articles, there is nothing clear in the law that would stop him from running even from prison.

As sad as it is to say, I think he is probably the Republican candidate no matter what. If he is, the Democrat party could run a mannequin against him and win…

I paint every conservative in a corner on Trump because the only conservatives who have spoken out against Trump have been removed or condemned from the party - Kinzinger, Cheney, Christie. Almost every single Republican member of Congress has vowed support for Trump and has entertained his stolen election claims and efforts to overturn the election. That's unacceptable. If you associate with the modern MAGA GQP, you're going to get lumped in with the extreme judgement that most normal, reasoned Americans have.
 
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I paint every conservative in a corner on Trump because the only conservatives who have spoken out against Trump have been removed or condemned from the party - Kinzinger, Cheney, Christie. Almost every single Republican member of Congress has vowed support for Trump and has entertained his stolen election claims and efforts to overturn the election. That's unacceptable. If you associate with the modern MAGA GQP, you're going to get lumped in with the extreme judgement that most normal, reasoned Americans have.
Look, the Republican Party is tore apart because many of the more conservative reps and senators are torn between committing political suicide or just waiting Trump out until 2028.

Make no mistake, any rep or senator that openly speaks out against him will lose a large part of the vote they need to win. It sucks, but it absolutely is true. The party needs to do what it can to survive trump and then hopefully have a push after to get back closer to its core conservative views…
 
Just because you don’t like the rift in the current party structure(I truly hate it as well), it wouldn’t/shouldn’t make you change your belief structure if it indeed was as “lifelong” as you say…
I know many Catholics who left that organized church after the priest sexual abuse scandals emerged. However, they didn't necessarily change their lifelong values.

I would think it's fair to say a conservative Republican like @Mpchillin might similarly leave a MAGA far right Republican party in the wake of Trump scandals.
 
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Look, the Republican Party is tore apart because many of the more conservative reps and senators are torn between committing political suicide or just waiting Trump out until 2028.

Make no mistake, any rep or senator that openly speaks out against him will lose a large part of the vote they need to win. It sucks, but it absolutely is true. The party needs to do what it can to survive trump and then hopefully have a push after to get back closer to its core conservative views…

That sure sounds like it's a cult to me.
 
I know many Catholics who left that organized church after the priest sexual abuse scandals emerged. However, they didn't necessarily change their lifelong values

I would think it's fair to say a conservative Republican like @Mpchillin might similarly leave a MAGA far right Republican party in the wake of Trump scandals.
Again, my argument had zero to do with him leaving the party. It was whether or not he was ever conservative in the 1st place.
 
Us.
Embarrassing and pathetic to read. Do you talk about this shit in public or just on internet forums with other cultists?

If I heard anyone in person talking this way, I'm immediately writing them off as a deranged brainwashed cultist with TDS.

In a normal word, people who think you like make up less than 10% of the population. Unfortunately, we're living in Idiocracy and there's tens of millions of rubes like you walking our streets, driving cars, and voting.

There's absolutely zero defense for Trump's attempt at overthrowing democracy and you know that which is why you and the other cultists' only response to the criticism is "he wasn't trying to overturn the election". I can't imagine being that uninformed and delusional. You know how flat earthers are judged? MAGA is just the same way. Just a cult of completely brainwashed nutjobs who've sold their souls to a narcissistic grifter.
Ouch, but so unfortunately true overall.
 
Again, my argument had zero to do with him leaving the party. It was whether or not he was ever conservative in the 1st place.
It is relevant, because using your logic you might equally question the Catholic values of those both before and after leaving the organized church.

And it is further relevant in that neither @Mpchillin nor those Catholics are likelly to give a crap about your personal questioning their values (aka your litmus test of whether or not they are what they say they are).
 
Cultists follow blindly. Prisoners weather the storm until they get released.

If you have been following the house craziness with the speakers there are plenty that aren’t following blindly…

Can you name me a few examples of reasonable, moderate, non MAGA Republicans in Congress?

Genuinely asking and am curious if there are any that I'm overlooking.

I'll tell you right away, I'm going to Google their name and their prior comments on Trump, Jan. 6, and stolen election claims.
 
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It is relevant, because using your logic you might equally question the Catholic values of those both before and after leaving the organized church.

And it is further relevant in that neither @Mpchillin nor those Catholics are likelly to give a crap about your personal questioning their values (aka your litmus test of whether or not they are what they say they are).
Sweet!
 
Can you name me a few examples of reasonable, moderate, non MAGA Republicans in Congress?

Genuinely asking and am curious if there are any that I'm overlooking.

I'll tell you right away, I'm going to Google their name and their prior comments on Trump, Jan. 6, and stolen election claims.
When did conservative mean moderate? Also, I literally just said no one was going to commit political suicide to openly go against Trump when they almost all believe he is gone this cycle and 100% gone by 2028.

You can beat your Jan. 6th drum all you want, but Trump has 100% control over too many voters. All standing up against him will do for most is guarantee they don’t get relected…
 
Cultists follow blindly. Prisoners weather the storm until they get released.
True.

I didn't vote for Trump the first time, but I did the second because of his political choices made while president, and because of the horrific alternative. Though I think he is amazingly ungodly in many areas, I don't care about having a pastor-in-chief. All presidents are liars and cheats. I already have my pastor-in-chief, that is the Chief Shepherd.

I'm going to vote for a man who is closest in implementing my political values, and it sure can't be anybody on the current left. It doesn't make me a cultist, though I wouldn't necessarily be ashamed to be one.
 
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When did conservative mean moderate? Also, I literally just said no one was going to commit political suicide to openly go against Trump when they almost all believe he is gone this cycle and 100% gone by 2028.

You can beat your Jan. 6th drum all you want, but Trump has 100% control over too many voters. All standing up against him will do for most is guarantee they don’t get relected…

Moderate as in willing to condemn Trump. I view the entire current GQP and a radical extremist party. I'd consider anyone like Romney, McCain, basically the typical Republican from pre MAGA as moderate by today's standard.

You say they'd be committing political suicide by condemning trump. I think the entire party has committed suicide and lost elections because of their refusal to condemn Trump. Independents and moderates such as myself will not consider any candidate or politician who doesn't have the moral integrity to stand up for democracy and condemn Trump.
 
Moderate as in willing to condemn Trump. I view the entire current GQP and a radical extremist party. I'd consider anyone like Romney, McCain, basically the typical Republican from pre MAGA as moderate by today's standard.

You say they'd be committing political suicide by condemning trump. I think the entire party has committed suicide and lost elections because of their refusal to condemn Trump. Independents and moderates such as myself will not consider any candidate or politician who doesn't have the moral integrity to stand up for democracy and condemn Trump.

First off, let’s be crystal clear, Romney and McCain were barely right leaning back then, let alone now…


So, by your logic, they should try to get your groups 5-10%, without any guarantee they get it anyway, while almost certainly losing 20+% of their base? Makes perfect sense.
 
First off, let’s be crystal clear, Romney and McCain were barely right leaning back then, let alone now…


So, by your logic, they should try to get your groups 5-10%, without any guarantee they get it anyway, while almost certainly losing 20+% of their base? Makes perfect sense.

Everytime you post something that shows an ounce of reasonability, you proceed to post something dumb as **** like this that just shows you're a tribalist, no different than any other GQP.
 
And you have the nerve to call others cultists - you couldn't more exemplify one if you tried.

As far as the war being ended - let me know when one began under that administration. Other countries smell our weakness - or is that wokeness?

He won't go to jail. The whole plan is to distract and deplete. Glad you enjoy your 3rd World politics. Democrats and the MSM better hope he doesn't win because those 20 shell companies and 180 plus reported acts of suspicious intent won't be swept under the rug. Maybe you missed those?
Spot on CPH! Remember when it comes to sabula girl and vodka boy you can just picture them. Either unemployedd milking govt support, working at a dispensory with their man buns and LGBTQ plus t-shirts talking about 0 emmissions by november or else. People like this dont have a clue or contribute to our economy only leach off it! I certainly know if they do have jobs they dont run anything, contribute to society or care about our country. My guess is they sit in their double wide hating the man and playing xbox. Probably occasionally go somewhere to protest or riot! Im also sure they have an AOC and hammas poster up in the double wide. They are part of the have nots because theyve never worked for anything.

You can only laugh at their ignorance! Ive said it before. They dont like facts. Trump 2024! Greatest pres of our life times. Remember trumps a winner. Losers hate winners!
 
Spot on CPH! Remember when it comes to sabula girl and vodka boy you can just picture them. Either unemployedd milking govt support, working at a dispensory with their man buns and LGBTQ plus t-shirts talking about 0 emmissions by november or else. People like this dont have a clue or contribute to our economy only leach off it! I certainly know if they do have jobs they dont run anything, contribute to society or care about our country. My guess is they sit in their double wide hating the man and playing xbox. Probably occasionally go somewhere to protest or riot! Im also sure they have an AOC and hammas poster up in the double wide. They are part of the have nots because theyve never worked for anything.

You can only laugh at their ignorance! Ive said it before. They dont like facts. Trump 2024! Greatest pres of our life times. Remember trumps a winner. Losers hate winners!

Yet you don't like AJ Ferrari because of his social media antics, toxicity, and sexual assault allegations.

Real consistent.
 
Everytime you post something that shows an ounce of reasonability, you proceed to post something dumb as **** like this that just shows you're a tribalist, no different than any other GQP.
Lol, the disconnect you have is something special if you think what I said was anything other than the actual truth.

My bad on re-engaging. Please feel free to hold your banner high and make sure to blast those “moral-less” spineless Republicans that see anything different from you.

Have a great weekend and be safe.
 
Moderate as in willing to condemn Trump. I view the entire current GQP and a radical extremist party. I'd consider anyone like Romney, McCain, basically the typical Republican from pre MAGA as moderate by today's standard.

You say they'd be committing political suicide by condemning trump. I think the entire party has committed suicide and lost elections because of their refusal to condemn Trump. Independents and moderates such as myself will not consider any candidate or politician who doesn't have the moral integrity to stand up for democracy and condemn Trump.
Hear me out here, let’s elect him, then we use him to fix our broken economy, get inflation under control, get the employment rate up again then we codemn the shit outta him! So like a win win type scenario.
 
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