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2015-16 could be starting line-up?

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A stones throw from an all native Iowan starting 5?

SF-Jarrod Uthoff 6'9" 215lbs. Sr. 20 - Cedar Rapids, IA
PF-Dale Jones 6'8" 220lbs. Jr. 35 - Waterloo, IA
C-Adam Woodbury 7'1" 245lbs. Sr. - Sioux City, IA
OG-Peter Jok 6'6" 200lbs Jr. 3 - W. Des Moines, IA
PG-Mike Gesell 6'2" 190lbs. Sr 10 - S. Sioux City, NE


Who remembers the last all 5 Iowan starting 5?
 
I would imagine we'll see:

Gesell
Clemmons
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury

The only bad thing is that would leave us really young and really inexperienced on the bench. You can probably lock Gesell, Jok, Uthoff and Woodbury into the starting 5, and Uthoff can play the 3/4 and Jok the 2/3. That means you either add a PF or a wing. We don't have much size on the bench (only Wagner, Uhl and probably Jones), so it would probably be wise not to start three forwards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like:

Gesell
Fleming (most college ready?)
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury
 
Originally posted by iowalawhawk:
I would imagine we'll see:

Gesell
Clemmons
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury

The only bad thing is that would leave us really young and really inexperienced on the bench. You can probably lock Gesell, Jok, Uthoff and Woodbury into the starting 5, and Uthoff can play the 3/4 and Jok the 2/3. That means you either add a PF or a wing. We don't have much size on the bench (only Wagner, Uhl and probably Jones), so it would probably be wise not to start three forwards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like:

Gesell
Fleming (most college ready?)
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury
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I hope Sapp embraces the sixth man role like Gabe did this year. I think we are much better off with Sapp coming off the bench and it makes that much more sense considering Iowa will only have a true freshman combo guard that would be in a position to help out Gesell or Clemmons due to injury or foul trouble.

While Sapp might come off the bench, that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to get starter minutes, it would just allow Fran to stagger the times when Mike and Anthony are getting rest.

My early projections at the starting 5 would be the following:

Gesell
Jok
Uthoff
Uhl
Woodbury

The wildcard would be the four spot, depends who we ultimately sign in the spring. I think folks are underestimating Uhl as it relates to him starting. The kid has a ton of athleticism and really good handles(way better than White) so I could see him really making a jump next year. With his length and athleticism I think he can hold his own on the boards. When Uthoff graduates, Uhl can slide down to the 3, but until then I think he will play more 4 than 3, especially with all the wings we have coming in next year.
 
Originally posted by iowalawhawk:
I would imagine we'll see:

Gesell
Clemmons
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury

The only bad thing is that would leave us really young and really inexperienced on the bench. You can probably lock Gesell, Jok, Uthoff and Woodbury into the starting 5, and Uthoff can play the 3/4 and Jok the 2/3. That means you either add a PF or a wing. We don't have much size on the bench (only Wagner, Uhl and probably Jones), so it would probably be wise not to start three forwards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like:

Gesell
Fleming (most college ready?)
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury
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I'd take out Clemons, move Jok to the 2, and put Uhl at the 3. We need Clemmons coming off the bench to give mikey a break
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Originally posted by 2432Hawk:
A stones throw from an all native Iowan starting 5?

SF-Jarrod Uthoff 6'9" 215lbs. Sr. 20 - Cedar Rapids, IA
PF-Dale Jones 6'8" 220lbs. Jr. 35 - Waterloo, IA
C-Adam Woodbury 7'1" 245lbs. Sr. - Sioux City, IA
OG-Peter Jok 6'6" 200lbs Jr. 3 - W. Des Moines, IA
PG-Mike Gesell 6'2" 190lbs. Sr 10 - S. Sioux City, NE


Who remembers the last all 5 Iowan starting 5?
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Gesell is actually from across the river in Nebraska.
 
Originally posted by BHlover:
Originally posted by 2432Hawk:

A stones throw from an all native Iowan starting 5?



SF-Jarrod Uthoff 6'9" 215lbs. Sr. 20 - Cedar Rapids, IA

PF-Dale Jones 6'8" 220lbs. Jr. 35 - Waterloo, IA

C-Adam Woodbury 7'1" 245lbs. Sr. - Sioux City, IA

OG-Peter Jok 6'6" 200lbs Jr. 3 - W. Des Moines, IA

PG-Mike Gesell 6'2" 190lbs. Sr 10 - S. Sioux City, NE





Who remembers the last all 5 Iowan starting 5?
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Gesell is actually from across the river in Nebraska.
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Reading comprehension scores a problem for you?
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Originally posted by BHlover:
Originally posted by 2432Hawk:
A stones throw from an all native Iowan starting 5?

SF-Jarrod Uthoff 6'9" 215lbs. Sr. 20 - Cedar Rapids, IA
PF-Dale Jones 6'8" 220lbs. Jr. 35 - Waterloo, IA
C-Adam Woodbury 7'1" 245lbs. Sr. - Sioux City, IA
OG-Peter Jok 6'6" 200lbs Jr. 3 - W. Des Moines, IA
PG-Mike Gesell 6'2" 190lbs. Sr 10 - S. Sioux City, NE


Who remembers the last all 5 Iowan starting 5?
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Gesell is actually from across the river in Nebraska.
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Hence the reference to a stones throw.
 
PF is a wild card for next year. I hope Fran doesn't feel the need to shift Uthoff to the 4 most of the time next year, because he is great mismatch to have at the 3.
 
All-Iowa (sort of) makes for good conversation and talking points by TV commentators. Who would have thunk it? Unfortunately, doesn't translate to B1G Championship. Don't see any Harrison Barnes, Doug McDermott, or Kirk Hinrich there.
 
2 point to the POST it will not have 5 starters that are from IA just 4
Woody
Jok
Uthoff

and maybe Jones if he gets here as a commit, even then there is no guarantee he will start, there have been others that poster were hot to trot about IA getting only to see them do nothing.

better to concentrate on the players that are here and/or signed their LOI.
 
Yes-it is better to concentrate on the players that are here and/or signed their LOI, as opposed to, say, predicting a true freshman will be our starting PG in 2016.
 
When did Iowa take over Nebraska? The OP's starting 5 are not all from Iowa.
 
For some reason that is not explainable, nor does it make sense in some ways, I keep getting the feeling that Fleming will be a four year starter.

Gesell, Fleming, Jok, Uthoff, Woodbury, with Clemmons the first off the bench.

The others, including Uhl, will be in a battle for the backup minutes at the 2-5.

(Stones throw, it was right there. Maybe the expression is not well known anymore?)
This post was edited on 3/19 10:06 AM by DanL53
 
Originally posted by DanL53:

For some reason that is not explainable, nor does it make sense in some ways, I keep getting the feeling that Fleming will be a four year starter.

Gesell, Fleming, Jok, Uthoff, Woodbury, with Clemmons the first off the bench.

The others, including Uhl, will be in a battle for the backup minutes at the 2-5.

(Stones throw, it was right there. Maybe the expression is not well known anymore?)

This post was edited on 3/19 10:06 AM by DanL53
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Having spent my youth in Sioux City, I can confidently say that it is impossible to throw a stone of any size across the Missouri River from Sioux City to South Sioux City.
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Originally posted by nu2u:



Originally posted by DanL53:

For some reason that is not explainable, nor does it make sense in some ways, I keep getting the feeling that Fleming will be a four year starter.

Gesell, Fleming, Jok, Uthoff, Woodbury, with Clemmons the first off the bench.

The others, including Uhl, will be in a battle for the backup minutes at the 2-5.

(Stones throw, it was right there. Maybe the expression is not well known anymore?)


This post was edited on 3/19 10:06 AM by DanL53
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Having spent my youth in Sioux City, I can confidently say that it is impossible to throw a stone of any size across the Missouri River from Sioux City to South Sioux City.
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LOL! But did you sink any ships?
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Could be.... ? stones throw... oh well.


As for the trivia aspect of my post nobody has attempted. Vs. Purdue in 97-98 season. Dr. Tom inserted walk-on Kyle Galloway into starting lineup. Instead of trying to match Purdue's size he went small and Galloway made them pay from deep.

F-Ryan Bowen - Ft. Madison, IA
G/F-Kyle Galloway - Sioux City, IA
G-Ricky Davis - Davenport, IA
G-Kent McCausland - Waterloo, IA
G-Dean Oliver - Mason City, IA
 
Originally posted by 2432Hawk:
Could be.... ? stones throw... oh well.


As for the trivia aspect of my post nobody has attempted. Vs. Purdue in 97-98 season. Dr. Tom inserted walk-on Kyle Galloway into starting lineup. Instead of trying to match Purdue's size he went small and Galloway made them pay from deep.

F-Ryan Bowen - Ft. Madison, IA
G/F-Kyle Galloway - Sioux City, IA
G-Ricky Davis - Davenport, IA
G-Kent McCausland - Waterloo, IA
G-Dean Oliver - Mason City, IA
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That was a fun game to be at. I believe they were a in the top 8 in the country. We came out on absolute fire and blew them out of Carver in the first few minutes
 
Originally posted by BHlover:

Originally posted by 2432Hawk:
A stones throw from an all native Iowan starting 5?

SF-Jarrod Uthoff 6'9" 215lbs. Sr. 20 - Cedar Rapids, IA
PF-Dale Jones 6'8" 220lbs. Jr. 35 - Waterloo, IA
C-Adam Woodbury 7'1" 245lbs. Sr. - Sioux City, IA
OG-Peter Jok 6'6" 200lbs Jr. 3 - W. Des Moines, IA
PG-Mike Gesell 6'2" 190lbs. Sr 10 - S. Sioux City, NE


Who remembers the last all 5 Iowan starting 5?
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Gesell is actually from across the river in Nebraska.
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You're just now discovering that reading comprehension is a major problem for cretins? It is quite clear to me. I will try to explain it to the perpetually stupid:
We'll start by eliminating the line-up you posted and I will add a few words for clarification.
"Next years starting 5 could be a 'stones throw' away from being an all Iowan line-up". This means that 4 of the starters could be from IA, with the exception of Gesell, who is from just across the MO river, thus a 'stones throw'.
Thus, they will not all be from IA, but does anyone remember that last time that all 5 starters WERE from Iowa?

You know me, just always trying to help the less fortunate, one mongo at a time.
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Originally posted by LincolnHawkeye:
Originally posted by iowalawhawk:
I would imagine we'll see:

Gesell
Clemmons
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury

The only bad thing is that would leave us really young and really inexperienced on the bench. You can probably lock Gesell, Jok, Uthoff and Woodbury into the starting 5, and Uthoff can play the 3/4 and Jok the 2/3. That means you either add a PF or a wing. We don't have much size on the bench (only Wagner, Uhl and probably Jones), so it would probably be wise not to start three forwards.

I wouldn't be surprised to see something like:

Gesell
Fleming (most college ready?)
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury
Click to expand...

I'd take out Clemons, move Jok to the 2, and put Uhl at the 3. We need Clemmons coming off the bench to give mikey a break
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Right now, Jok is a 3 because he does not have a good dribble drive move and hangs around the 3 point arc. Jok needs to work on his dribble drive to the basket and a stop and pop middle range game. If Jok can't score, he is a serious liability to the team. Uhl needs to develop his strength and his shot. He has a lot of upside but has not earned a starting spot.

Outside Gesell, Woodenbury and Uthoff, no one has show a real reason to be called a starter, IMHO. Fleming and Moss offer hope but they will be true freshmen entering a power conference. How so long they hit the wall is anyone's guess.
 
abides just a quick question on Jok, how is it that he was the starting SG during the BT season, or do you know more than Fran?
 
Serious question, from a longtime lurker, on a somewhat trivial matter. Does South Sioux City, Nebraska, even have a hospital? Seems like most people who claim South Sioux City as their hometown would have actually been born across the river in Sioux City, Iowa. Do we know that Gesell was NOT actually born in Sioux City, Iowa, thus making him a NATIVE Iowan?
 
Originally posted by G_Hawk:
Serious question, from a longtime lurker, on a somewhat trivial matter. Does South Sioux City, Nebraska, even have a hospital? Seems like most people who claim South Sioux City as their hometown would have actually been born across the river in Sioux City, Iowa. Do we know that Gesell was NOT actually born in Sioux City, Iowa, thus making him a NATIVE Iowan?
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Well if we use birthplace then cross Jok off the list of native Iowans
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Originally posted by nu2u:


Originally posted by DanL53:

For some reason that is not explainable, nor does it make sense in some ways, I keep getting the feeling that Fleming will be a four year starter.

Gesell, Fleming, Jok, Uthoff, Woodbury, with Clemmons the first off the bench.

The others, including Uhl, will be in a battle for the backup minutes at the 2-5.

(Stones throw, it was right there. Maybe the expression is not well known anymore?)

This post was edited on 3/19 10:06 AM by DanL53
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Having spent my youth in Sioux City, I can confidently say that it is impossible to throw a stone of any size across the Missouri River from Sioux City to South Sioux City.
wink.r191677.gif
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Wuss...
 
Originally posted by CorgiHawk:
Originally posted by nu2u:






Originally posted by DanL53:



For some reason that is not explainable, nor does it make sense in some ways, I keep getting the feeling that Fleming will be a four year starter.



Gesell, Fleming, Jok, Uthoff, Woodbury, with Clemmons the first off the bench.



The others, including Uhl, will be in a battle for the backup minutes at the 2-5.




(Stones throw, it was right there. Maybe the expression is not well known anymore?)



This post was edited on 3/19 10:06 AM by DanL53
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Having spent my youth in Sioux City, I can confidently say that it is impossible to throw a stone of any size across the Missouri River from Sioux City to South Sioux City.
wink.r191677.gif
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Wuss...
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Totally. It's not like we're talking about the Mississippi here. It's JUST the Missouri.
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It would be pretty hard to throw a stone from South Sioux City over the Missouri River to Sioux City. Just saying.
 
Originally posted by GPRHAWK:
It would be pretty hard to throw a stone from South Sioux City over the Missouri River to Sioux City. Just saying.
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It's a figure of speech.

Being John Daily couldn't hit a golf ball that far I don't figure I could throw a stone literally across the river.... of course unless I'm standing on the HWY 20 bridge at the middle on the Iowa side and toss it a few feet to the NE side.
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its amazing just how hard some people keep trying to make it out that Gesell is from IA, when he is from Nebraska,
 
So no one ever answered... does South Sioux City have a hospital? Where one can go to give birth? Or does one have to cross the river?
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Originally posted by G_Hawk:
So no one ever answered... does South Sioux City have a hospital? Where one can go to give birth? Or does one have to cross the river?
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No,South Sioux City does not have a hospital. His home town is still South Sioux City.
 
Food for thought: if Hutton is the defensive beast (a la Dan Dakich's love interest A Craft) then why not groom the next big leader by taking what you get offensively but playing him extensively due to his shut down defensive abilities? We will still be a team that must rely on defense since we won't have a great scorer (Uthoff I am guessing 17 ppg).

C- Woody Sr #34 7-1
F- Uthoff Sr #20 6-8
F- Hutton Fr #13 6-6
SG- Jok Jr #3 6-6
PG- Gesell Sr #10 6-2

Sapp 1st off bench

THEN:

Uhl
Williams
Moss
Wagner
Fleming
Ellingston

We have one more ride to give or bank.

This post was edited on 3/19 10:00 PM by hawk_a_holic

This post was edited on 3/19 10:04 PM by hawk_a_holic
 
Closest hospital would be down Hwy. 77 south in Winnebago, Ne. which is 20 miles south or perhaps in Pender, Ne.?
 
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