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24 year old man needed double lung transplant, wishes he'd been vaccinated

This is all around an incorrect post. None of the mutations of covid are more harmful (deaths). Delta has a significantly less CFR than previous. Is it more contagious? Sure. It is weaker, just like all the science surrounding mutations.
So are you going to also assert that no one will die from Delta variant?
 
The drug may not cost that much, but the jab is more likely to avoid the hospital stay, which is what costs a lot of money.
If cost is your only consideration, sure. There are many who do not want to get the vaccine though.
 
Viruses will never go away, that is true. Herd immunity, it seems from your standpoint, means 100% gone which is not the way to think about it. Please show me anywhere that states, from a scientific standpoint, that viruses become stronger as they mutate. I'll wait.
LOL...a virus doesn't have to become "stronger" to shift it's target. It just has to mutate.
 
They aren't thinking rationally to risk a ho$pital visit
I don't know. If someone can pop a pill that costs $20 or less for treatment, still not go to the hospital and then be immune from the virus versus taking a vaccine that has shown to have a lot of problems and people still getting covid after taking it? Just think, if covid could be treated like when you have the flu how big of a game changer that is?
 
I don't know. If someone can pop a pill that costs $20 or less for treatment, still not go to the hospital and then be immune from the virus versus taking a vaccine that has shown to have a lot of problems and people still getting covid after taking it? Just think, if covid could be treated like when you have the flu how big of a game changer that is?
There are few facts in this statement.
 
That's not what happens when virus' mutate. We also have treatments, like Ivermectin, that make this a much more manageable issue than giving a vaccine.
There are other dangers with the shot; perhaps much more dangerous ones.

The proper path would have been weight loss, sunshine, O2, therapeutics, etc. The horse has left the barn now, though. Kinda late to slam the door.
 
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I don't know. If someone can pop a pill that costs $20 or less for treatment, still not go to the hospital and then be immune from the virus versus taking a vaccine that has shown to have a lot of problems and people still getting covid after taking it? Just think, if covid could be treated like when you have the flu how big of a game changer that is?
We vaccinate half the population against the flu and still have tens of thousands of deaths a year. That's on top of >$10B/year in direct costs for hospitalizations and doctor visits. Then there's the cost of millions of lost work-days. But - yeah - the vaccines cost more.
 
We vaccinate half the population against the flu and still have tens of thousands of deaths a year. That's on top of >$10B/year in direct costs for hospitalizations and doctor visits. Then there's the cost of millions of lost work-days. But - yeah - the vaccines cost more.
You're lost dude. Jesus Christ.
 
Well, I'm not objective on that either - because I get my flu shot. I'm also scheduled for my 2nd pneumonia vaccine this week.
I'm just a nut for getting shots I guess.
Yeah there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I've never gotten a flu shot and won't get one. There are many people who don't want to get these shots. For covid, I've already had it. I'm immune, I don't need a vaccine.
 
Wait...are you saying a virus can't mutate to become more infectious...to shift it's virulency to a different population? Sure...I'll LOL at that.
You don't know how to read do you? I literally stated in this thread the Delta variant is more infectious, but is clearly not the same problem as original covid. I will lol at that.
 
There are other dangers with the shot; perhaps much more dangerous ones.

The proper path would have been weight loss, sunshine, O2, therapeutics, etc. The horse has left the barn now, though. Kinda late to slam the door.
You are absolutely correct, as usual. If you saw Darkhorse podcast, they outline the 3 things to try and slam the door, but it's highly unlikely to happen because of money.
 
You don't know how to read do you? I literally stated in this thread the Delta variant is more infectious, but is clearly not the same problem as original covid. I will lol at that.
So you admit it's possible but you want me to show "exactly how exactly this will happen?"

Interesting.
 
Go back and READ what exactly I wanted you to show me. Your reading comprehension is horrid.
LOL...a virus doesn't have to become "stronger" to shift it's target. It just has to mutate.
Ahhh...so you're of the opinion that a virus can become more infectious through mutation but can't possibly expand to a different demographic through mutation. You're brilliant, you are.

Could you possibly explain how the 1918 flu slammed young adults?
 
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This is all around an incorrect post. None of the mutations of covid are more harmful (deaths). Delta has a significantly less CFR than previous. Is it more contagious? Sure. It is weaker, just like all the science surrounding mutations.
Bullshit

No one has enough data to judge Delta vs. the original variants.
Subsequent variants WERE more harmful than the original
 
This is all around an incorrect post. None of the mutations of covid are more harmful (deaths). Delta has a significantly less CFR than previous. Is it more contagious? Sure. It is weaker, just like all the science surrounding mutations.
How did 2018 and 2009 flu get "more deadly" then?
 
Bullshit

No one has enough data to judge Delta vs. the original variants.
Subsequent variants WERE more harmful than the original
This is Bullshit as usual from you. CFR for Delta as mentioned is way lower. That's all you need.
 
My knowledge comes from listening to many scientists discussing how virus' mutate and how they know when they mutate, they become weaker. There really isn't much to argue about with that and here we are once again having you say I'm an idiot when you're constantly full of shit and don't know wtf you're talking about. Current vaccines combined with treatment for those who don't want the vaccine (which is their choice) can help eliminate this virus and reach herd immunity. Go do actual research instead of listening to MSM and Fraudchi. Dumbass

Chiropractors aren’t scientists.
 
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Ahhh...so you're of the opinion that a virus can become more infectious through mutation but can't possibly expand to a different demographic through mutation. You're brilliant, you are.

Could you possibly explain how the 1918 flu slammed young adults?
You figure it out genius. Once again show me the science around viruses mutating with actual facts and links that they become stronger. I'll wait.
 
My knowledge comes from listening to many scientists discussing how virus' mutate and how they know when they mutate, they become weaker.
Thanks for stating the obvious. That relates to this in what way?

Only a chiropractor would say something this dumb. No serious scientist would claim “they become weaker” when they mutate. They can, but not always, they can become more virulent, which as you may know becomes stronger.

Again, stop listening to hucksters and coming on here pretending to know what the F you are talking about.
 
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Only a chiropractor would say something this dumb. No serious scientist would claim “they become weaker” when they mutate. They can, but not always, they can become more virulent, which as you may know becomes stronger.

Again, stop listening to hucksters and coming on here pretending to know what the F you are talking about.
lol. No serious scientist would claim this? The inventor of the mRNA vaccine SAYS this you idiot. With MANY others saying the same thing. Keep up with your MSM and Fraudchi listening Phenomenally Stupid.
 
You figure it out genius. Once again show me the science around viruses mutating with actual facts and links that they become stronger. I'll wait.
You shouldn't lie. It makes you look like a liar. You have yet to explain how the 1918 flu shifted in virulence and affected population. So there's an actual fact. There are lots of links. Have at it. Until you can respond on point, you're done.
 
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