I agree with the pet owner comment. Except with pitbulls. If (or when) they snap, it’s often a surprise to the owners.
40-year-old woman attacked, killed by her own dog
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It's honestly pretty crazy how laxed the standards are for identifying breeds are. Adoption kennels such as Humane society, etc, don't DNA test. They literally just look at the dog and say "hmmm, looks half hound half lab" and that's what they put on the adoption papers.
A dog could be high percentage pit, maybe not look like it, and fly under the radar that way. It's how a lot of people get around having pits in banned areas.
Next time I'll pepper spray her too.
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A buddy of mine owns a Rot. He constantly says the problem with Rots and PitBulls is the owner and not the dog.
I said to him, "they might be nice right now, but you never know when something random sets them off".
Lets just say I was proven to be correct.
I said to him, "they might be nice right now, but you never know when something random sets them off".
Lets just say I was proven to be correct.
A ball of hamburger laced with rat poison will do the trick.
Bloody squirts all over their house before it expires......or so I've been told.
The problem with Rots and Pitbulls is they're so ****ing strong that if they ever attack, they're going to do so much ****ing damage trying to get them to stop.
Exactly. And there is no convincing them to stop once they start. Their instincts are to kill.
I also think the "it's the owner" argument misses the mark. Like, they're close, but it's more about temperament than owner.
Temperament is a huge part of the breed standard for every dog that is largely ignored for their looks. If it's a properly bred Rot or AmStaff or Pittbull Terrier with good temperament, then sure it may never attack another person or dog.
BUT, almost all the pits in shelters are mutts that have been ****ing everything they see diluting every dog breed in a shelter with pit genetics. There's no way to test their temperament bc we don't even know where they came from. So it becomes a surprise ticking time bomb. Maybe the mutt from the shelter had good temperament bred into it, maybe it didn't. No way to find out until it attacks.
I think people would be really surprised how strong a pissed off 90# Labrador is too. I almost had to try to jump in and try to break up a fight between a Lab and German Shepard (which was bigger than the lab). Luckily the Lab backed off when the German Shepard gave up.
That's true for almost all dogs. Across the board labs are pretty friendly and sporting dogs usually have softer bites.
That isn't saying it won't happen, but it's a lot less likely for a lab to turn on a family than a pit.
I don't. How many of these stories are well balanced clean cut families who undoubtedly cared for the dog properly and raised it right? The answer is close to 0.
That said, I don't think it should be legal to own or breed pits bc they'll continue to be used and abused by shitty humans as long as it's legal to own them.
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German shepherds can go the same route as pits imo. I've been bit by 3 dogs in my life, all German Shepherds. My uncle got mauled by one a few years ago knocking on a farmer's door for an appointment and the farmer's shepherd was out. He's lucky to be alive. Lost use of one arm/hand, side of his face had to be reconstructed and hundreds of staples in his head. Looked like a grizzly attack.
He was torn bc he had a good relationship with the farmer but law enforcement was pretty adamant that it get put down before it killed someone. Farmer was pissed, said the dog was just "doing his job". Eff that.
I’m around a Rot almost daily. She is a good dog, not overly bright, but friendly and playful. I was dog sitting her last summer and she didn’t want to get out of the pond. When I coaxed her out, her disposition completely changed. Scared the shit out of me. If she makes the decision to tear me up that’s it for ole jelly. Dogs make me very uneasy.
@McLovin32 ever have any problems on your route? I try to stick to the single track trails if I am hiking. Less traffic, less dogs.
I have mixed feelings about German shepherds. My neighbor got one when I was a kid the same time we got a little beagle puppy. I’d play with all 3 of them so I got along with it great. However any time I see one I’m a bit hesitant to go around one. It just has the look like I’m going to tear you to shreds.
Not usually. There is one older guy that I see almost every morning when I'm down in Hartman and he always has his 2 dogs off leash and walking with him. At first it annoyed me, but the dogs are both old and just move slowly. Now we're at a point that when they see me they come hobbling up to me to say hello. There was one time though when a pit, no leash, popped up onto the trail about 20 feet in front of me. I stopped, and then his owner was on a bike, and he popped up off a side trail onto the pavement. Then he took off and the dog went with him. The guy was in his early 20's and looked like the type of dipshit that would let a pit run loose in a public area. That's really the only time I've had any issues/situations that concerned me much.
I don't agree with you often, but I can agree with this. An ex of mine no pics had a couple german shepherds. One was super chill, the other one was not. He liked me, but I saw him get a bit aggressive when people were around that he didn't know well. He got out once and ran up the road to her parent's farm. In less than 10 mins he killed 8 goats that her dad owned. It was a bloody mess. I'm honestly surprised her dad didn't put him down right after that happened.
Good luck putting a vicious pitbull in full rage mode in a headlock. Great way to get your throat ripped out...
My main point is actual AKC certified breeders for AmStaffs, Pitbull terriers, rotweilers, etc. are actually breeding for temperament. They're weeding out the ones that attack.
So if you buy one from them, you're much less likely to have an incident.
The other side of the coin is that the ones being adopted out at shelters aren't tested for temperament, they honestly can't. Ones being bred in puppy mills, also not likely being bred for temperament. These are the ones that will attack no matter how much the owner tries to train them.
Maybe, prob wouldn't have much trouble shaking your hand off and latching onto your arm.
Her last words right before her eyes closed were, “I swear they wouldn’t hurt a fly.”
I posted a video earlier of how to stop an attacking dog.
Grab their collar, twist it and lift. The dog can't breathe after 5 seconds.
If they're not wearing a collar, a leash or belt can work.
Have you ever seen pitbull attack videos? It's not that easy. Especially if there's more than one of them.
My dogs couldn't kill me if they wanted to. 1) they are loving 2) I could break their necks at any point 3) we have raised them from pups.
I don't care how much you train a ROT or Pit. If something goes sideways in their brains, you are dog food
I don't care how much you train a ROT or Pit. If something goes sideways in their brains, you are dog food
One attacked my Golden while on a walk. It was going to try to kill him. I kicked him as hard as I could in the ribs and he let go, pretty sure I knocked the wind out of him by the look on his face, possibly broke something. Then I kicked him again in the head hard enough that he did 2 complete rotations with claws skidding on the concrete. When he stopped spinning, he looked back at me and my dog contemplating his next move and I charged him while yelling at him to " get out of here." He decided he'd had enough and took off, thankfully.
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