A perverted campaign against LGBT rights in Houston
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The nice thing about Prime is he swiftly comes around and makes the point for me.
Now, now, are we spicy because I made you admit that you CAN in fact accomplish things without the system?
Don't be so glum, chum.
Bingo, again. Maybe these laws, like affirmative action, had some merit 50 years ago, but in today's society, with social media giving everyone a voice, the people have sufficient power to shame and "unlike" any business acting in a socially-unacceptable manner. No ridiculous anti-discrimination police required.
Your perspective is off. I made you see that and I just complimented you. Kudos on the word chum, but I ain't glum.
Indeed, it's time to trust that the people have learned and changed, instead of finding ways to prove that they have not. It all comes from these Liberal types trying to use this crap for political leverage, which is why, like a thicker older woman, I will usually pound on them a bit more, due to their need to be set straight.
Of course you're not glum, you're enlightened. Talking to me is like finding those extra fries at the the bottom of the bag. You already know you're getting your moneys worth, but with me, there's that little extra bit of surprise.
Again you think rights are a factor of being popular. Rights are for the unpopular and powerless too. Even if everyone hates you, you still have a right to Primes hamburger.
Lol, there is few groups more popular than the gheys these days though Natural. You guys have a lock on everything. You get to hang out with all the girls, you're all over Hollywood, music, etc.
You guys are the privileged these days, and damn near untouchable. I don't say that being a smart arse by the way. I truly believe that.
I can't think of anyone more unpopular than employers these days.
So anyway, why don't I have a right to hire the superstar salesman? This is the employment arena, not personal choice. If I'm willing to pay more, you should have to come work for me or pay me damages.
Only if you can deny what i said, and if you can do it in a way that proves your point against mine.
I know. Nobody thinks that way. The employer has the right to fire; the employee has the right to quit. Somehow, the employer has more power in this relationship? It's weird to me that no one else sees this.
I don't have to do that. It's not my job. If you are ignorant about civil rights that is on you.
Again, what point are you arguing about discrimination laws? This is the 2nd time you have gone off the rails in this thread. First about progressive taxation and now about forced employment.
You're right, you DON'T have to do that. You DON'T have to be anything you don't want to be. If I wish to be superior in my understanding of these things, despite you thinking I'm ignorant, than that is my choice.
The only real right anyone has, is the right to be as vulnerable as the person next to them. You know the thing about the word you fear so much,.......it's fair.
It's quite simple and certainly not "off the rails"... If customers and/or employees can sue business owners for discrimination, then that should go both ways. If a customer refuses to patronize my business, or an applicant refuses to work for me because of my race, sex, age, religion, national origin, military service, disability, pregnancy, marital status, sexual orientation and/or gender identity/presentation/transition, then I should have the same remedies for harms done to my business by such discrimination.
I don't have to think you're ignorant on this topic. In true Prime form, you come right along and make that point clear.
Sure, go cry about it in Hollywood. Go cry on the shoulders of all those hot 'girly friends' you have. The day you realize that in the end, we all have equal rights when we are all able to know that and practice that without force, then you will be on my level. Until then, you're relying on inhumanity to show you humanity.
I think you're wrong, but I'd be interested in learning the philosophical basis for your belief that forced patronage or labor is justified in light of forced non discrimination laws.
Okay, try this on for size:
Scenario #1: Employer says, "You're qualified for the job, but I'm not going to hire you because you're in the Army reserves and might get called up for duty."
The employer will be sued and rightfully so.
Scenario #2: Customer says, "You sent a black technician to work on the A/C of my house. I'm canceling my contract with you people."
There's nothing the business owner can do about that except for "disliking" the customer.
How is that fair? How is that equal treatment under the law?
All rights involve a form of force. They are all based on laws. When the laws give everyone equal rights, we will have equal rights. Without enforceable laws there are no rights.
Do you remember the news story a week or two ago about a "Yelp" for people?
Yeah, no one has any problem defaming businesses on social media, but a website to rate how awful individuals act? No freaking way!
Frankly, we NEED a Yelp for people.
Yeah, no one has any problem defaming businesses on social media, but a website to rate how awful individuals act? No freaking way!
Frankly, we NEED a Yelp for people.
What rights don't you have now? Do you not live in a state, where you are of complete and equal rights? If not, explain what you can't do.
Why is the first scenario justified? Why is it right to sue the company for not hiring the army guy. I think you will answer your 2nd question with the answer you already know.
Because discriminating against the Army guy is prohibited by law.
I can't sue the customer because that's not prohibited by law. Customers can act as bad as they want to act, even if it means I can't find work for my black technician.
Again, the business owner is in a Catch-22.
You seem to be close to realizing a business is not a private citizen. Now figure out why it's justified to have a law that protects the army guy from discrimination and you will be close to the finish line.
You seem to be ignoring that my little fictional Air Conditioning Service Business is... ME! If I lose business, I am personally harmed. It's not some faceless business from which I draw a salary. It's my livelihood.
What difference does that make? You aren't operating it as you. You are operating as a corporation. If you wanted to run as a private air conditioning club you too could cancel all the contracts with your black customers.
Uh, no... I couldn't. Such an arrangement would be quickly snuffed out as an attempt to do an end run around discrimination laws.
Even Augusta National has caved because that defense was a loser.
So, I haven't read this thread past the first page so apologies if this has been a point of discussion already. It seems like the common theme of discussion in regards to having men's and women's separate bathrooms is of a sexual nature. Outside of sociopaths or people with some very weird fetishes, I can't think of anything that makes me go flaccid faster than a member of the opposite sex dropping a deuce.
Kind of bizarre in a way how we separate a basic human (animal) function like pissing and crapping between the genders and then worry about sexual encounters in this same vicinity. On further thought I am probably giving far too much credit to douchey people to behave like civilized people when someone is taking care of their business.
I think the Hyvee's in the Des Moines Metro have it right, just a row of private bathrooms (I don't know why they have women's and men's in this scenario since they are all private.) But it is quite nice to have a private bathroom in a public setting.
Kind of bizarre in a way how we separate a basic human (animal) function like pissing and crapping between the genders and then worry about sexual encounters in this same vicinity. On further thought I am probably giving far too much credit to douchey people to behave like civilized people when someone is taking care of their business.
I think the Hyvee's in the Des Moines Metro have it right, just a row of private bathrooms (I don't know why they have women's and men's in this scenario since they are all private.) But it is quite nice to have a private bathroom in a public setting.
It wasn't a legal loser. It was a public relations loser. You have the right to run a private business as you like. Are you sure you work in this field? Public businesses however have another set of laws. Now kindly explain how you want to make us all public citizens and corse as to shop and work for you.
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