Everyone knows the biggest improvements come between the fourth game and the fifth.
After rewatching the game, it's Beathard.
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Everyone knows the biggest improvements come between the fourth game and the fifth.
That's cute. We've all seen enough evidence with Iowa that, for the most part, they improve as the season goes along, no? We can go back throughout a lot of seasons where it seemed it was that one game where everything started to click for Iowa.
If a team can remain adequately healthy ... then improvement CAN be incremental. If guys focus on the little-picture and keep on improving ... then changes (and improvement) can still happen.Everyone knows the biggest improvements come between the fourth game and the fifth.
I still am most struck by how anemic Michigan State's offense looked back in 2013 heading into their game against Iowa. That was the game where both Cook and the MSU receivers really started to play more consistently. Lippett went from being an inconsistent under-the-radar guy ... to being "the man" for the Spartans.
I wonder if we could end up seeing the same sort of thing happen at Iowa?
The over-simplification post is spot on. Let's list the changes last year to this.
1) no viable 2nd and 3rd receiving TE option
2) no Mitchell, a good blitz pickup and 3rd down receiver (and under-rated rusher), and "Danley" isn't good at pass pro at all
3) the line isn't nearly as good at pass pro, nor stable for that matter. That must be resolved immediately.
4) CJ is obviously nicked up a bit. I thought against Rutgers, on a few hits he was favoring the shoulder a bit after, and he doesn't seem to be as nimble when scrambling like he was prior (off-season surgery if my memory is good, and the "knee brace kerfluffle" in camp)
5) the WR's need for this offense as it's currently constituted is the deep ball being viable. None of them are really "short passing game receivers", therefore to get separation on those short throws Iowa needs to go deeper more often to back the coverage off...but with a suspect line, that's harder to do and part of the holding onto the ball too long problem. CJ must get better at getting rid of the ball, period.
6) CJ never truly was a very accurate passer, much like Stanzi - so even in a perfect world where the above is resolved, he's gonna miss passes one would think he shouldn't miss. CJ must be more accurate.
7) the receivers in this year's offense just plain cannot drop balls ever. Impossible I know, but Iowa can't afford wasted opportunities.
I believe Iowa will need Stanley yet this year is the result of all this. CJ's taking a pounding yet we need him to continue to be a scramble threat given the line issues (which he appears less capable of doing this year). He's no Big Ben physically, and will wear down to the point he truly does take a knockout blow.
Not pining for it to happen, just think it will happen.
1) no viable 2nd and 3rd receiving TE option
2) no Mitchell, a good blitz pickup and 3rd down receiver (and under-rated rusher), and "Danley" isn't good at pass pro at all
3) the line isn't nearly as good at pass pro, nor stable for that matter. That must be resolved immediately.
4) CJ is obviously nicked up a bit. I thought against Rutgers, on a few hits he was favoring the shoulder a bit after, and he doesn't seem to be as nimble when scrambling like he was prior (off-season surgery if my memory is good, and the "knee brace kerfluffle" in camp)
5) the WR's need for this offense as it's currently constituted is the deep ball being viable. None of them are really "short passing game receivers", therefore to get separation on those short throws Iowa needs to go deeper more often to back the coverage off...but with a suspect line, that's harder to do and part of the holding onto the ball too long problem. CJ must get better at getting rid of the ball, period.
6) CJ never truly was a very accurate passer, much like Stanzi - so even in a perfect world where the above is resolved, he's gonna miss passes one would think he shouldn't miss. CJ must be more accurate.
7) the receivers in this year's offense just plain cannot drop balls ever. Impossible I know, but Iowa can't afford wasted opportunities.
I believe Iowa will need Stanley yet this year is the result of all this. CJ's taking a pounding yet we need him to continue to be a scramble threat given the line issues (which he appears less capable of doing this year). He's no Big Ben physically, and will wear down to the point he truly does take a knockout blow.
Not pining for it to happen, just think it will happen.
I think CJ is normally a very accurate passer when healthy and given time.
Hence the winking face.
Late season improvement has been a hallmark of the best seasons under KF. I hope this is one of them.
I thought you were going to finish that with "this week." Talk about a stunning turn of events. Maybe Wisconsin is just that awesome. Maybe it was one game.
Certainly, a lot can change over the course of the season. Certainly, that will have to happen for this team to have a prayer of winning the West.
Some of you guys are missing the obvious issue with CJ. He's a 2nd year starter at QB. That is always the toughest year in college and the pros. Defensive coordinators now have a season's worth of film on you. They now have time in the off season to figure out what you do and what you don't do well and they put in packages to make life difficult for you. CJ could be the problem but I think it might be that DC's are doing things to make CJ play poorly. It's up to CJ and Phil Parker to figure out how to negate that.
Wisconsin's D really appears to be "that good."
However, they also demonstrated to us how mediocre the Badgers can look when they come out flat (i.e. their game versus Georgia State). How much of what we've observed from the Hawks has been due to "flatness?" How much of it has been due to teams watching tape on us and adjusting accordingly?
Those brilliant DC's figured it all out. They said rush the passer better and don't let their receivers get open. If you think CJ looks as healthy as last year, has had much time to throw, and has receivers open than I want to watch the game in your world.
Yep. That's all there is to it. Why aren't you running a D1 defense somewhere?
Complaining about L Daniels' pass blocking? Geesh.
Beathard has to get rid of the ball.
Looking forward to him stepping up the rest of the season.
Beathard has to get rid of the ball.
Looking forward to him stepping up the rest of the season.
Me too! When I can't coach it, I run out between serves and help them get the bikini out of the cracks of their asses. It doesn't pay much but it's really all about the benefits anyway.
While I sill say CJ didn't have his best game (held the ball WAY TOO LONG).
What in the hell were we play calling for? We were running the ball good (inside/outside) and we would get a drive going, only to call 3 pass plays once we got inside the opponents 35-30yd line?? WTF is that about.
I hate to say it, it seems like Davis is trying to win CJ the heisman. Instead of just running the ball and doing what you do best, we are trying to sling it around w/medicore WR's trying to get open. Just once I would like to see them pound the ball. Quit with this freaking pass first mentality.
I also will say that our mental lapses have been horrible as well. Both NDSU/Rutgers we had very bad timed penalties or mistakes. Have to clean that up, otherwise they will cost us again.
What in the hell were we play calling for? We were running the ball good (inside/outside) and we would get a drive going, only to call 3 pass plays once we got inside the opponents 35-30yd line?? WTF is that about.
I hate to say it, it seems like Davis is trying to win CJ the heisman. Instead of just running the ball and doing what you do best, we are trying to sling it around w/medicore WR's trying to get open. Just once I would like to see them pound the ball. Quit with this freaking pass first mentality.
I also will say that our mental lapses have been horrible as well. Both NDSU/Rutgers we had very bad timed penalties or mistakes. Have to clean that up, otherwise they will cost us again.
Our line sucks. NW qb had twice the time as CJ. Anyone who watched the game and thinks CJ is the problem is an idiot.
