Agree or disagree: We need to recruit a dual threat QB

[HawkNole09]

every third year.

We've got Stanley for the next 2.5 years. It'd be nice to see us add a true running threat at QB and see if we can cultivate another Brad Banks.

And if the experiment doesn't work he can always convert to a WR or S.

 

[BioHawk]

I'll take a quarterback that can recognize a blitz and has a strong, accurate arm.

 

[St. Louis Hawk]

Too sexy.

 

[HawkNole09]

I'll take a quarterback that can recognize a blitz and has a strong, accurate arm.

Peyton Mansell - check

 

[dbrocket]

Disagree. A good QB is a good QB. Most QBs have limitations. Fans need to realize they're not watching the NFL. Most college QBs have a major flaw. We've actually been pretty lucky overall.

 

[kcgolfer]

It would be nice but everybody wants one. There are not a lot of Brad Banks out there.

 

[bman546]

We have a dual threat if the O-line does their job. Open holes for Wadley and give Stanley time to pass.

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

Have to agree with the op on this one.. I think to be elite we need a speedy quarterback who can scramble and stop on the dime.. doesn’t necessarily need a cannon for an arm but someone who can dot the I and cross the T hitting them right on the numbers

 

[24Hawkeye7]

Peyton Mansell, dummy

 

[citizenHawk]

Doesn't have to be a legit "dual threat," but Iowa is always better with an athletic (and mobile) QB able to extend a play or pick up a few yards for a first down. If the team is going to have an elite season, this is usually in the equation.

 

[Nile High]

Instead of looking for the next Brad Banks maybe we should be looking for the next Chuck Long.☺ We would obviously take either if we could find them. For me, I will take specialists in sports and in real life.

 

[l.todd]

Wasn't Boyle supposed to be that guy for us now? How is that turning out?

 

[icwesthawk]

I'd like one but not sure it's a requirement.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

I like a mobile QB who's always looking at the run primarily as a way to extend the play. Look at Russell Wilson at Wisconsin or even Drew Tate (when healthy). Even when scrambling it was eyes downfield looking for a receiver. They don't get a lot of rushing yards but they breakdown D's and make plays. They typically take less of a beating than a pure dual threat qb too.

 

[LakeviewHawkeye]

every third year.

We've got Stanley for the next 2.5 years. It'd be nice to see us add a true running threat at QB and see if we can cultivate another Brad Banks.

And if the experiment doesn't work he can always convert to a WR or S.

I love Banks as much as the next guy but there may not be a single starter on this offense that would start on the 2002 team. Wadley and Welsh would have a shot and Wadley would definitely contribute. I like the dual threat guys too but replicating what Banks did with Iowa's current talent.on offense would be a monumental task.

 

[jdv77]

I would guess that we have taken a dual-threat QB about every 3rd year. This is year 19 for Kirk Ferentz, so you need to come up with 6 dual-threat QBs. Brad Banks, Jason Manson, Cy Phillips, Eric McCollum, Marvin McNutt, and Ryan Boyle. Then you have to decide how you want to characterize Drew Tate, C.J. Beathard, and Peyton Mansell. (While Jake Christensen was listed by Rivals as a Dual Threat Quarterback, I have not included him on this list.)

 

[ScoutRefugee]

I like a mobile QB who's always looking at the run primarily as a way to extend the play. Look at Russell Wilson at Wisconsin or even Drew Tate (when healthy). Even when scrambling it was eyes downfield looking for a receiver. They don't get a lot of rushing yards but they breakdown D's and make plays. They typically take less of a beating than a pure dual threat qb too.

This^^. A mobile QB is what we always need. Escape the blitz and extend the play. Occasionally running for a 1st down to keep defenses honest. Brad Banks probably ran 5 or 6 times a game and few of them were designed runs.

 

[WeRIowa]

I would guess that we have taken a dual-threat QB about every 3rd year. This is year 19 for Kirk Ferentz, so you need to come up with 6 dual-threat QBs. Brad Banks, Jason Manson, Cy Phillips, Eric McCollum, Marvin McNutt, and Ryan Boyle. Then you have to decide how you want to characterize Drew Tate, C.J. Beathard, and Peyton Mansell. (While Jake Christensen was listed by Rivals as a Dual Threat Quarterback, I have not included him on this list.)

Half of our scholarship quarterbacks are dual-threats. I think what the OP wants is a freakishly talented dual-threat quarterback. You just need is a little patience. Our starter is young, has a howitzer for an arm, and a high ceiling. Let's just let him develop and enjoy the results.

 

[Herkmeister]

Half of our scholarship quarterbacks are dual-threats. I think what the OP wants is a freakishly talented dual-threat quarterback. You just need is a little patience. Our starter is young, has a howitzer for an arm, and a high ceiling. Let's just let him develop and enjoy the results.

I keep hearing PM is our most accurate QB by far.

 

[hawkfeever]

Wasn't Boyle supposed to be that guy for us now? How is that turning out?

I think his height has limited him. Awful short for a QB trying to throw at this level.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Of course I would love to see it. I want fast, fun offensive football. It would make the game so much more enjoyable to watch.
It's a completely different mindset than what the staff has planned and will never happen.
I truly think their idea of a successful game plan is a low scoring, grind it out, mostly defensive struggle with just enough passing to keep the chains moving.

 

[Titanhawk2]

every third year.

We've got Stanley for the next 2.5 years. It'd be nice to see us add a true running threat at QB and see if we can cultivate another Brad Banks.

And if the experiment doesn't work he can always convert to a WR or S.

Iowa doesn't run a dual threat offense. Banks didn't. He was very mobile in pro style offense

 

[David1979]

Disagree. Most of them aren't any good.

 

[speed4power]

Peyton Mansell - check

Peyton Mansell is not fast

 

[nitewing]

his name is PEYTON MANSELL and he is red shirting, ass a SR passed for 2526 yards 70.1% completion rate and 33 TD's, then ran 165 times for 1134 yards and 15 TD's as a SR. giving him 3660 yards of total offense and 48 TD's.
the coaches are WAY ahead of you compliments of Greg Davis.

 

[ichawk24]

This is year 19 for Kirk Ferentz, so you need to come up with 6 dual-threat QBs. Brad Banks, Jason Manson, Cy Phillips, Eric McCollum, Marvin McNutt, and Ryan Boyle. Then you have to decide how you want to characterize Drew Tate, C.J. Beathard, and Peyton Mansell. (While Jake Christensen was listed by Rivals as a Dual Threat Quarterback, I have not included him on this list.)

Great list, plus Arvell Nelson.

Iowa hasn't shown the ability to develop a dual threat QB, so I'd rather see them stick to pro style guys.

 

[nitewing]

Great list, plus Arvell Nelson.

Iowa hasn't shown the ability to develop a dual threat QB, so I'd rather see them stick to pro style guys.

you can do better?

 

[speed4power]

Disagree. Most of them aren't any good.

A lot (if not most) of the best QB's in college football in recent years have been dual threat.

Just this year Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Deandre Francois, Kelly Bryant, Jarrett Stidham, Jalen Hurts, JT Barrett, Kellen Mond, I could go on. Elite teams in modern college football go after QB's that can make plays with their legs.

 

[speed4power]

Great list, plus Arvell Nelson.

Iowa hasn't shown the ability to develop a dual threat QB, so I'd rather see them stick to pro style guys.

Yeah our system isn't exactly built for dual threat QBs. I'd like to see us switch to a primarily spread offense but probably not going to happen.

 

[speed4power]

his name is PEYTON MANSELL and he is red shirting, ass a SR passed for 2526 yards 70.1% completion rate and 33 TD's, then ran 165 times for 1134 yards and 15 TD's as a SR. giving him 3660 yards of total offense and 48 TD's.
the coaches are WAY ahead of you compliments of Greg Davis.

Peyton Mansell is a 5+ second 40 guy. He's not going to be dual threat, especially in college.

 

[David1979]

A lot (if not most) of the best QB's in college football in recent years have been dual threat.

Just this year Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Deandre Francois, Kelly Bryant, Jarrett Stidham, Jalen Hurts, JT Barrett, Kellen Mond, I could go on. Elite teams in modern college football go after QB's that can make plays with their legs.

1) By your standard Beathard was a dual threat QB. And if that is the case, ok yeah it would be nice to have a good passing QB that can also use his legs. And if that is the standard Mansell and Boyle are both on the roster and are dual threat QBs.
2) You are also just naming off elite QBs. It would be great to get an elite dual threat QB who could pass as well as he can run but that is a lot easier said than done. Barrett and Hurts were big time recruits that Iowa is not going to land. Lamar Jackson is a freak athlete that was also a 4 star QB that doesn't come around that often. I could just as easily say Rosen, Darnold, Falk. What does that prove? Nothing. That is just naming some of the best QBs in college football. If you look at the majority of dual threat QBs they aren't good passers and that really limits your offense. Especially a pro-style offense.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

every third year.

We've got Stanley for the next 2.5 years. It'd be nice to see us add a true running threat at QB and see if we can cultivate another Brad Banks.

And if the experiment doesn't work he can always convert to a WR or S.

Who cares what type of QB he is, I just want a QB who can lead a team to victories. Ill take a Cam Newton or a Tom Brady.....Brad Banks or Rick Stanzi, I don't care just win...I don't care if we win 3-2 or 45-42, just win.
Furthermore, I am very happy with Stanley and believe he is doing a very nice job in leading this team.

 

[Pepperman]

Wasn't Boyle supposed to be that guy for us now? How is that turning out?

I think his height has limited him. Awful short for a QB trying to throw at this level.

1) Boyle isn't a QB and never was a QB. He was a RB that occasionally threw the ball, often times without accuracy, but he could get away with that at the High School level. I constantly point this out, nobody ever listens, but here I am trying it again.

2) It isn't his height. It is his lack of being a QB.

 

[l.todd]

1) Boyle isn't a QB and never was a QB. He was a RB that occasionally threw the ball, often times without accuracy, but he could get away with that at the High School level. I constantly point this out, nobody ever listens, but here I am trying it again.

2) It isn't his height. It is his lack of being a QB.

Was he recruited and has he been practicing/been listed as a QB?

 

[Johnsoda123]

Mansel's SR season 2,560 passing yards for 33TDs, 1129 rushing yards for 15 TDs. I think there is a QB battle coming.

 

[jonnyhawk]

Need? No.

Nice to have? Of course. See Brad Banks.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Great list, plus Arvell Nelson.

Iowa hasn't shown the ability to develop a dual threat QB, so I'd rather see them stick to pro style guys.

Arvell, if memory serves, was still more of a pro-style QB. He was tall and lanky - a good athlete, but not really an elite runner.

 

[ichawk24]

Rivals and scout list Nelson as pro-style, so apparently I am wrong.

 

[markfromj]

Disagree.

 

[Fan In Black]

I want a kid that is 6'4 225 lbs that is as quick as he is fast, is football smart, has a hose, is accurate AF, and can scramble for first downs and touch downs when a play breaks down. I also want him to be a great punter. Thats all.