Can you show me on the doll where he touched you?Hopefully Baldwin is found guilty and gets the maximum sentence plus 5 more years for being a world class ass clown.
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Can you show me on the doll where he touched you?Hopefully Baldwin is found guilty and gets the maximum sentence plus 5 more years for being a world class ass clown.
It's a movie set. The gun was handed to him and told it was cold. This is not the real world situation. There were never ever supposed to be live rounds in the gun.No, but it’s a pretty basic rule not to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger.
Don’t need a whole lot of firearms knowledge to know that.
And protocol is not to point a real gun at someone and pull the trigger.It's a movie set. The gun was handed to him and told it was cold. This is not the real world situation. There were never ever supposed to be live rounds in the gun.
Can you show me where it says it was protocol on a movie set? Anywhere?And protocol is not to point a real gun at someone and pull the trigger.
It wasn’t a prop.
Again, in all the years of shooting movies this is the first time it's EVER happened.
I know that is what I was taught and abide by, but I imagine that that isn't always realistic in movie making.And protocol is not to point a real gun at someone and pull the trigger.
It wasn’t a prop.
It says refrain. Look I am not defending anything that happened on this situation. If the armorer on a movie set hands me a gun and says it is is cold I would tend to believe them before this incident.
Dude there wasn't an absolute. Now if it said don't fücken point a gun at anyone ever on a movie set. I should not have spell this out.What do you think refrain means?
Dude there wasn't an absolute. Now if it said don't fücken point a gun at anyone ever on a movie set. I should not have spell this out.
He killed a woman, he needs to be locked away for years.Can you show me on the doll where he touched you?
Pete's still pissed at Baldwin's Trump impressions on SNL.Can you show me on the doll where he touched you?
It's just not that simple.He killed a woman, he needs to be locked away for years.
I concede...seems the protocols are pretty vague on movie sets.Can you show me where it says it was protocol on a movie set? Anywhere?
rudimentary firearm training doesn't cover distinguishing the difference in the look of a live vs blank round. They're made to look like live rounds, they just don't have a projectile. It takes more specialized training from what I've read to distinguish them, which is why there are better procedures to do that involving people who are trained. Should they also be required to check the brake lines and tire pressures on cars they drive or make certain food they serve doesn't actually contain poison? Again, in all the years of shooting movies this is the first time it's EVER happened. It's a bit ridiculous to demand actors understand all the ins and outs of every prop they handle.
OK, but if you're an armorer and load a pistol with blanks and hand it to the actor before a scene, do you really want the actor to eject the clip, take all the rounds out and inspect them, and load them back up before the scene?Not nearly as complicated as you are making it out to be,... In very simplistic terms the typical live round is comprised of (2) major and very visible elements, the casing & the bullet,.. Blanks have a casing but do not have the bullet.
Jfc, please tell me you're kiddingI am sorry to tell you yes it does happen but you keep believing that.
OK, but if you're an armorer and load a pistol with blanks and hand it to the actor before a scene, do you really want the actor to eject the clip, take all the rounds out and inspect them, and load them back up before the scene?
If you're an armorer, wouldn't you then want to inspect the weapon again to make sure the actor didn't some way, some how load a live round into the magazine?
Seems like it would paralyze a film set if actors can't rely on the expertise of the armorers. Then again, I've never been on a set so have no idea what is done.
JFC look it up hot shot. It is rare but it does happen Btw.Jfc, please tell me you're kidding
You need to sit this one out from now onJFC look it up hot shot. It is rare but it does happen Btw.
So you didn't do any research then. Got it. Thanks for playing.You need to sit this one out from now on
If it wasn't a prop in a movie set, what was it?And protocol is not to point a real gun at someone and pull the trigger.
It wasn’t a prop.
No offense but you're out of your depth on this particular piece of the discussion. You can't go from claiming "guns go off all time" to then dissing someone for not doing research. I've been involved in firearms safety training for over 25 years so I happen to know a little about the subject.So you didn't do any research then. Got it. Thanks for playing.
I certainly appreciate you for knowing about training and training those who need to know. As I said earlier, it is rare but on occasion guns do go off by accident. That may or may not be the case here but it does happen. Nothing is full proof.No offense but you're out of your depth on this particular piece of the discussion. You can't go from claiming "guns go off all time" to then dissing someone for not doing research. I've been involved in firearms safety training for over 25 years so I happen to know a little about the subject.
Guns don't just randomly go off. The gun Alec was practicing his quick draw with is exceptionally hard to discharge by mistake as you have to manually cock the hammer before it will fire. The gun didn't just go off by accident, it went off bc someone recklessly put a live round in it and someone else discharged it in the direction of the woman that died.
There's a separate document for John Wick filming, correct? 😎Dude there wasn't an absolute. Now if it said don't fücken point a gun at anyone ever on a movie set. I should not have spell this out.
Obviously!There's a separate document for John Wick filming, correct? 😎
By accident? No. As an accident? Yes. There must be some sort of external force to make a gun go off. Tossing it to someone and they catch it improperly. It falling on the ground. It's not going to discharge simply by existing with a round in the chamber.I certainly appreciate you for knowing about training and training those who need to know. As I said earlier, it is rare but on occasion guns do go off by accident. That may or may not be the case here but it does happen. Nothing is full proof.
except actors do it in film all the time. It's called acting, and you trust that the person providing you the weapon is properly trained and has done their job to make certain they used blanks instead of a real bullet. Again, this has literally never happened so you should be able to trust that. Just like you shouldn't drive your car off a bridge yet they do it for movies, you shouldn't jump off a building, but it's done for movies. It's how acting works.No, but it’s a pretty basic rule not to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger.
Don’t need a whole lot of firearms knowledge to know that.
Do they? Or do they use prop guns that are incapable of firing a round when pulling the trigger close range?except actors do it in film all the time.
She’s a NM GOP state rep, FWIW…
I thought I heard talk of some occasional off camera target shooting going on for fun,... If true, very bad deal.
Probably not,.. unless, as might be the case with Baldwin, the firearm was handled carelessly.
You can’t put that on actors.
CALLLLLLLLLLLED IT. This is nothing more than maga butthurt because AB killed trump on snl.
CALLLLLLLLLLLED IT. This is nothing more than maga butthurt because AB killed trump on snl.