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All I read on here are posts about the offense

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Why no threads on the D. Is there any way for you to know what to expect from the D? The following are the rankings for the offenses the hawks have played so far:

Illinois state - FCS no ranking
ISU - 93 rd
PITT - 104 th
N. Texas 97 th

I understand lately you all have been disappointed with the offense and iowa has traditionally had a solid D, but going into big ten play I think the unknown about the hawks is the D.
 
A consensus has formed around Iowa's secondary that this unit is above average to very good. The LB unit is improved.

The run defense is still an open question IMO - that will get a major test at Madison. If the Hawkeyes are forcing passes on 2nd down and/or frequently making Wisconsin go 3 or more yards on 3rd down, they will be proving a strength.
 
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Possible that these offensive numbers are biased from playing the Hawks? Or did you take a game average and remove games against the Hawkeyes?
 
Possible that these offensive numbers are biased from playing the Hawks? Or did you take a game average and remove games against the Hawkeyes?

Except for maybe Pitt, I don't think it's likely that those rankings above will change much the rest of the year. It's fair to say that our defense has not yet played a good offense. Iowa State has a few good receivers, Pitt has one NFL-quality receiver, and N. Texas has nothing much.
 
Here are a list of statements about the Iowa D that are pretty much a consensus and not controversial:

DBs are a very good group but it lacks depth.
King is one of the best corners in the B1G. Held his own very well against Boyd, who is a projected 1st round pick.
Mabin has all the tools to be better than King. He needs to clean up his technique in order to surpass King.
Lomax is a solid senior. Leader of the group.
Taylor is young and plays with a reckless abandon. Has potential to be very good.

LBs are much improved over last season.
Jewell looks very comfortable in the middle and is always around the ball.
Niemann has the brightest future.
Fischser is the senior leader of the group. It appears the light finally turned on for him over the offseason.

DL will be very good again despite losing two starters to the NFL.
Johnson, Bazata, and Faith will make a salty middle of the line.
Meier is still undersized but appears to have figured out how to hold his own against bigger OTs.
Ott is a potential All-American if he can get healthy.

No one is going to compare this group with the great defenses in Iowa history, but it should be good enough to win a lot of games.
 
Here are a list of statements about the Iowa D that are pretty much a consensus and not controversial:

Mabin has all the tools to be better than King. He needs to clean up his technique in order to surpass King.

I'm not sold on this one, myself. You're correct about technique, but I think he also has to do some more learning of the position. He's certainly got good size, and appears to be very athletic. Time will tell, but I'm not ready to say that Mabin has everything he needs to be better. There's too much mental stuff still to be proven to me.
 
I'm not sold on this one, myself. You're correct about technique, but I think he also has to do some more learning of the position. He's certainly got good size, and appears to be very athletic. Time will tell, but I'm not ready to say that Mabin has everything he needs to be better. There's too much mental stuff still to be proven to me.

I guess I should have specified physical tools. Mabin is more physically gifted (bigger, faster) than King but to me 'technique' is the mental part of putting those tools (feet, hips, anticipation, tendencies) to use correctly that he needs to figure out.
 
Our play at the safety positions is what worries me. Too many pockets are being exploited by teams passing on 3rd and long. We won't be anything special if we can't get better anticipation, better positioning, and a better jump on the ball from the safeties.
 
Here are a list of statements about the Iowa D that are pretty much a consensus and not controversial:

DBs are a very good group but it lacks depth.
King is one of the best corners in the B1G. Held his own very well against Boyd, who is a projected 1st round pick.
Mabin has all the tools to be better than King. He needs to clean up his technique in order to surpass King.
Lomax is a solid senior. Leader of the group.
Taylor is young and plays with a reckless abandon. Has potential to be very good.

LBs are much improved over last season.
Jewell looks very comfortable in the middle and is always around the ball.
Niemann has the brightest future.
Fischser is the senior leader of the group. It appears the light finally turned on for him over the offseason.

DL will be very good again despite losing two starters to the NFL.
Johnson, Bazata, and Faith will make a salty middle of the line.
Meier is still undersized but appears to have figured out how to hold his own against bigger OTs.
Ott is a potential All-American if he can get healthy.

No one is going to compare this group with the great defenses in Iowa history, but it should be good enough to win a lot of games.

Drew Ott has played shockingly few snaps this season. Parker Hesse has played the majority of snaps at right DE this season. Given this observation, Iowa is effectively has 3 new starters on the DL.

At linebacker, for a hunk of the season, the starters were Bower, Alston, and Spearman. Admittedly, Jewell played a lot and finished the season as our starting WILL LB. Anyhow, this year we start 3 LBs who didn't have prior starts at their CURRENT LB spots. Thus, in many respects, our group of LBs are "all new." Thus, it's fascinating to observe how much better the LB play is this year as compared to last year.

In the secondary, we're admittedly a bit more experienced ... with only one new starter in Miles Taylor. Of course, unfortunately, both Taylor and Mabin are dinged ... so we'll have to see how things work out there. We'll have to see whether Gair and Fleming are preparing like their the starters ... and see how well they embrace the "next-man-in" mantra. However, when healthy, the Iowa secondary is probably one of the better units in the B1G.

If we're looking at "level of talent" ... I think that the Iowa D definitely isn't lacking in that department. I think that Hesse has the potential to develop into draft-worthy NFL talent. When healthy, Drew Ott is definitely of that same caliber. If Jaleel Johnson continues at his current level of play and continues to develop ... he's going to be considered as being AT LEAST at the same level as Carl Davis. At LB, I see Niemann as having the chops to be a future NFLer - probably ending up somewhere in between Kirksey and Edds. While he's currently "green" ... I really like the future upside of Mends. I'm willing to bet that he develops into an Angerer or Hitchens sort of player ... a guy who is on the shorter/smaller side ... but who plays exceptionally fast and with a lot of violence. Lastly, in the secondary, Phil Parker has a tendency of being like King Midas ... if guys make it through his boot camp, they come out on the other side pretty NFL-ready.
 
I like Ott a lot, but he's not AA material. Aside from King, I don't think there are any defensive stars on this team, but they're playing together fairly well to this point
 
My concern about our D is this: When our offense gets a completed pass, it's rare that the receiver is wide open...usually has a guy within a step or maybe two steps away. Other teams seem to be able to get receivers in spots where there's nobody within 5 or more yards of them...easy pitch and catch situation. Giving up easy passes like that is not a recipe for success...especially when it's on 3rd or 4th down and it's an easy conversion.
 
Why no threads on the D. Is there any way for you to know what to expect from the D? The following are the rankings for the offenses the hawks have played so far:

Illinois state - FCS no ranking
ISU - 93 rd
PITT - 104 th
N. Texas 97 th

I understand lately you all have been disappointed with the offense and iowa has traditionally had a solid D, but going into big ten play I think the unknown about the hawks is the D.

In my warped mind...this is a big unknown. We have not played a great offense, and the LB's still look vulnerable at times. This week will certainly tell us more all around...like it or not.
 
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My concern about our D is this: When our offense gets a completed pass, it's rare that the receiver is wide open...usually has a guy within a step or maybe two steps away. Other teams seem to be able to get receivers in spots where there's nobody within 5 or more yards of them...easy pitch and catch situation. Giving up easy passes like that is not a recipe for success...especially when it's on 3rd or 4th down and it's an easy conversion.

The best Hawkeye defenses of the last 16 years have all had this problem. It is a part of the defense that NP/PP operates.
 
Why no threads on the D. Is there any way for you to know what to expect from the D? The following are the rankings for the offenses the hawks have played so far:

Illinois state - FCS no ranking
ISU - 93 rd
PITT - 104 th
N. Texas 97 th

I understand lately you all have been disappointed with the offense and iowa has traditionally had a solid D, but going into big ten play I think the unknown about the hawks is the D.
Gotta admit, I'm surprised Pitt is the lowest ranked of the three.
 
Gotta admit, I'm surprised Pitt is the lowest ranked of the three.

Pitt fans were telling us that their game #2, against Akron, was played in a driving rain which partially accounted for their 327 yards of offense in that game. Then we held them 282 yards, or something like that. They were off last week, so they don't have that game to help bump up their average.
 
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Gotta admit, I'm surprised Pitt is the lowest ranked of the three.


Peterman hardly played in their first game. Defense held Akron to about 100 total yards in their other game, no real reason to open up the playbook. D has looked good with the game on the line, went prevent against N. Texas and gave up some meaningless yards. The whole is better than the sum of it's parts.
 
The best Hawkeye defenses of the last 16 years have all had this problem. It is a part of the defense that NP/PP operates.

Agreed. It doesn't make it any less frustrating. I can't count how many games we've won where I've been frustrated with the defense on a play by play level and impressed on an overall level.
 
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The challenge will be for the front 4 to get pressure. We've taken advantage of some coverage type sacks when rushing 4, but there have been times when lesser offensive lines have given the qb all day. That can' t happen against Wisky if we expect to win.

We need a big game from Ott and J.J. Our first priority will be the run and getting pressure on the passer is a must.
 
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