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[FSUTribe76]

what the transcripts shows is all of the Obama/intelligence officials testified that there was no evidence of Russian collusion. These transcripts were under seal. Schiff then lies for 3 years stating there is evidence and testimony supporting Russian collusion but he cant release it because its classified.

He was lying the whole time and he should be prosecuted.



This is not defensible.

Yep, no evidence of collusion other than all the colluding that occurred between Paul Manafort, Drumpfie Junior, Jared Kushner and the Russian spies. As long as you ignore their emails and meeting showing their direct treasonous conspiracy then there is “no evidence” in the Magat worldview.

 

[Joes Place]

In December 2017 he told CNN that collusion was a fact

Collusion is a fact.

What they did not have the evidence on was "conspiracy", which is the legal definition and hurdle required for criminal conviction.

"Russia, if you're listening", then having Russia release stuff, is "collusion".

 

[Joes Place]

Yep, no evidence of collusion other than all the colluding that occurred between Paul Manafort, Drumpfie Junior, Jared Kushner and the Russian spies. As long as you ignore their emails and meeting showing their direct treasonous conspiracy then there is “no evidence” in the Magat worldview.

Exactly. There were examples of collusion all over the place. What could not be proven was "conspiracy".

 

[royhobbs2]

Yep, no evidence of collusion other than all the colluding that occurred between Paul Manafort, Drumpfie Junior, Jared Kushner and the Russian spies. As long as you ignore their emails and meeting showing their direct treasonous conspiracy then there is “no evidence” in the Magat worldview.

So why wasn't Don Jr or Kushner charged with anything ?

Manaforte was an unrelated process crime.

Your post is garbage and it avoids the real story that Schiff lied for 3 years and the released transcripts prove it.

 

[LuteHawk]

Adam Schiff lied about Russia &
Trump for 3 years. He created a
false narrative that was pedaled
by the media. Yet Schiff is not
held accountable for his slander.

 

[FSUTribe76]

Schiff knew the facts of what Klapper, Lynch, Yates and others said. Yet he turned to the media to willfully and knowingly lie.

The problem isn’t with the op or the WSJ. The problem is with Schiff and those turning a blind eye because they want to believe something they were repeatedly told - but wasn’t true. That’s precisely the harm in Schiff’s behavior. Thank you Adam.

Three questions:

1) What do you call a conspiracy proven via emails and subsequent emails where the three most senior/influential members of the Drumpf campaign (including Drumpf’s son, SIL and campaign manager) meet with Russian spies to procure records illegally stolen from the Clinton campaign by Russian intelligence agencies?

2) What do you call it when Drumpf publicly pleads for assistance from Russia and within 24 hours the Russian intelligence agencies followup on his requests?

3) What do you call Drumpf’s “secret meetings” with Putin where American translators, secret service and transcription services are not allowed breaking hundreds of years of practice and only Russian witnesses are allowed to be present?

Do none of those rise to collusion in Magat eyes? What about when all three are occurring together?

 

[FSUTribe76]

So why wasn't Don Jr or Kushner charged with anything ?

Manaforte was an unrelated process crime.

Your post is garbage and it avoids the real story that Schiff lied for 3 years and the released transcripts prove it.

That’s an easy answer, Drumpf is in charge of the federal AG, FBI and CIA and there’s no state charges for conspiring with Russian spies. They’ll be arrested the instant someone else is in charge.

 

[FSUTribe76]

Adam Schiff lied about Russia &
Trump for 3 years. He created a
false narrative that was pedaled
by the media. Yet Schiff is not
held accountable for his slander.

Yep he slandered him by telling the truth. Typical Magat BAU.

 

[Nipigu]

Collusion is a fact.

What they did not have the evidence on was "conspiracy", which is the legal definition and hurdle required for criminal conviction.

"Russia, if you're listening", then having Russia release stuff, is "collusion".

Collusion has no legal meaning. Mueller’s report addressed the terms: collusion and conspiracy.

Mueller applied the term “coordinated” in their investigation and concluded the Trump Campaign did not coordinate with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

 

[Joes Place]

Manaforte was an unrelated process crime.

Related process crime.

As was Papadapoulous.
Process crimes hinder investigations and are serious. They are nothing to be brushing off. The mob engages in process crime behavior, routinely. Members of your government should not be.

 

[Joes Place]

Collusion has no legal meaning.

That's what I wrote.

 

[Nipigu]

Three questions:

1) What do you call a conspiracy proven via emails and subsequent emails where the three most senior/influential members of the Drumpf campaign (including Drumpf’s son, SIL and campaign manager) meet with Russian spies to procure records illegally stolen from the Clinton campaign by Russian intelligence agencies?

2) What do you call it when Drumpf publicly pleads for assistance from Russia and within 24 hours the Russian intelligence agencies followup on his requests?

3) What do you call Drumpf’s “secret meetings” with Putin where American translators, secret service and transcription services are not allowed breaking hundreds of years of practice and only Russian witnesses are allowed to be present?

Do none of those rise to collusion in Magat eyes? What about when all three are occurring together?

See post 49. Furthermore Schiff knew what he was told and still lied to the public.

 

[royhobbs2]

Yes so trump stopped schiff and pelosi from investigating don jr as being a Russian spy

very lame conspiracy theory with zero evidence

 

[Nipigu]

That's what I wrote.

And Mueller did not apply conspiracy which you also wrote.

 

[INXS83]

Schiff used his office and color of authority to deliberately lie repeatedly. So with respect him and accountability I was thinking of voters, media, and his committee position. As the WSJ said, he no longer has credibility. Good luck to him rehabilitating it.

Ultimately, the voters of his district can vote him out in November. I have no confidence that will happen.

He should be stripped of his House committee leadership and appointments, but that would come from Pelosi, who is one of his biggest defenders.

Could the House Ethics Committee go after him?

 

[Joes Place]

And Mueller did not apply conspiracy which you also wrote.

Huh? Mueller was unable to provide 'conspiracy'.

And one of the reasons was due to "process crimes" making his efforts difficult, if not impossible, to gather information.

 

[Nipigu]

Ultimately, the voters of his district can vote him out in November. I have no confidence that will happen.

He should be stripped of his House committee leadership and appointments, but that would come from Pelosi, who is one of his biggest defenders.

Could the House Ethics Committee go after him?

I agree on both points and an Ethics action is unknown but guessing is unlikely.

 

[Nipigu]

Huh? Mueller was unable to provide 'conspiracy'.

And one of the reasons was due to "process crimes" making his efforts difficult, if not impossible, to gather information.

You’ve already proven you don’t know this topic.

Kindly stick to this thread’s topic.

 

[pablow]

Collusion has no legal meaning. Mueller’s report addressed the terms: collusion and conspiracy.

Mueller applied the term “coordinated” in their investigation and concluded the Trump Campaign did not coordinate with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

Meeting for lunch is collusion; trying hire a hit man to kill your wife is conspiracy.

 

[Nipigu]

Meeting for lunch is collusion; trying hire a hit man to kill your wife is conspiracy.

Collusion is an ambiguous term with no legal meaning. It is also a colloquial term meaning conspiracy.

Conspiracy has specific elements: two or more people gathered, discussing the commission of any crime, coupled with an overt act to further the conspiracy.

Now back to Schiff.

 

[royhobbs2]

Schiff is a criminal. This guy abused his office and really tried to subvert democracy. Hes very close to treason.

 

[Joes Place]

You’ve already proven you don’t know this topic.

Kindly stick to this thread’s topic.

I quoted the thread's topic. And debunked it above for you.

 

[FSUTribe76]

See post 49. Furthermore Schiff knew what he was told and still lied to the public.

So you’re saying it depends on what the definition of “is” is and letting the treason go because of a technicality. But then on the flip side want someone arrested because they “lied” by saying he knew about the treason. Got it. It’s great to live in Magat fantasy land.

 

[FSUTribe76]

Schiff is a criminal. This guy abused his office and really tried to subvert democracy. Hes very close to treason.

So the traitors who meet with Russia to get stolen and/or fabricated info are the heroes and the people who point that out are the criminals. Got it. You’re a real ethical guidepost.

 

[royhobbs2]

So the traitors who meet with Russia to get stolen and/or fabricated info are the heroes and the people who point that out are the criminals. Got it. You’re a real ethical guidepost.

detail who the "traitors" are who got "stolen and fabricated " evidence. What proof do you have of this ? Please list what "stolen evidence" was obtained.

The Mueller hearings were a dud and the released transcript shows not one person knew of any evidence to back up what you are saying.

You are just throwing out vague accusations that have already been disproven.

 

[Nipigu]

I quoted the thread's topic. And debunked it above for you.

Ok, you won then.

 

[Nipigu]

So you’re saying it depends on what the definition of “is” is...

No. I am saying what I typed above.

 

[FSUTribe76]

detail who the "traitors" are who got "stolen and fabricated " evidence. What proof do you have of this ? Please list what "stolen evidence" was obtained.

The Mueller hearings were a dud and the released transcript shows not one person knew of any evidence to back up what you are saying.

You are just throwing out vague accusations that have already been disproven.

They’re not vague at all. June 3rd, 2016, longtime Drumpf ally Rob Goldstone tells Drumpfie Junior via email that Russia has information that they stole from Hillary (whether true, fabricated or a mix it doesn’t matter) and want to give it to Drumpf’s campaign as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump”. Rather than report it to the FBI or other law enforcement, Drumpfi Junior responds via email with note saying “I love it”. On June 7th there was a followup email saying the info would be delivered in person by a Russian spy. On June 9th, 5 people representing the Russians including indicted Russian spy Natalia Veselnitskaya and “former” KGB/FBS spymaster Rinat Akhmetshin met with Drumpfie Jr, Jared Kushner (SIL and in charge of Drumpf’s social media and online advertising), and Campaign Manager Paul Manafort. Although Drumpfie Jr lied about the meeting and initially told the public it was to talk about helping Russian orphanages, a year later Drumpfie Jr admitted to the New York Times to get info from the Russian Government about Hillary’s campaign. I’m sure he only admitted that exchange occurred because he was caught red handed. He also admitted to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had three phone calls with them before the physical meeting as well. Before all of the admissions, Drumpf himself helpied Drumpfie Jr write a denial letter talking about the orphanage so Drumpf personally was taking part in the attempted coverup.

How is that for specifics?

 

[royhobbs2]

Not very good. What crime was committed ? and apparently 135 million dollars and an army of prosecutors either overlooked this or nothing was there.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

The problem is with Schiff and those turning a blind eye because they want to believe something they were repeatedly told

You have just described every Trump voter and supporter. Turning a blind eye to pussy grabbing. Turning a blind eye to bashing a gold star parent. Turning a blind eye to using tax payer money to make himself richer. Turning a blind eye to dumb shit like invoking the injection of disinfectants into the bloodstream. Trump’s entire existence in the WH is due to millions turning a blind eye. But I’m sure you’ll turn a blind eye to that as well.

 

[Nipigu]

You have just described every Trump voter and supporter.

Feel free to make a thread about it. This one is about Schiff.

 

[Lone Clone]

Collusion is a fact.

What they did not have the evidence on was "conspiracy", which is the legal definition and hurdle required for criminal conviction.

"Russia, if you're listening", then having Russia release stuff, is "collusion".

ROFLSTC!!

If there is a single giveaway that someone has gone full TDS, that's gotta be it.

 

[Joes Place]

ROFLSTC!!

If there is a single giveaway that someone has gone full TDS, that's gotta be it.

"If it's what you say, I LOVE it!!!"

Only reason this wasn't "conspiracy" is they were too ham-handed at their collusion attempts. Along with the individuals involved NOT cooperating with the FBI and committing obstruction....

 

[BGHAWK]

So why wasn't Don Jr or Kushner charged with anything ?

Manaforte was an unrelated process crime.

Your post is garbage and it avoids the real story that Schiff lied for 3 years and the released transcripts prove it.

Read the Mueller Report. If you do, you might be the only right winger on here who has.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Feel free to make a thread about it. This one is about Schiff.

Yeah...I get it. It’s just that “turning A blind eye” is a bad argument for you to use. You’re all for that behavior.

 

[Nipigu]

You’re all for that behavior.

I speak for myself.

 

[ping72]

Not very good. What crime was committed ? and apparently 135 million dollars and an army of prosecutors either overlooked this or nothing was there.

Wow...you just moved the goalpost about 90 yards away.

This whole thread was about Schiff saying the Trump campaign worked with Russia. Which was just clearly explained to you that it did.