Europe disagrees stronglyI mean.... They're a tiny fringe "medical community", if that's what you mean. The much larger professional pediatric organizations disagree with most of their beliefs.
Europe disagrees stronglyI mean.... They're a tiny fringe "medical community", if that's what you mean. The much larger professional pediatric organizations disagree with most of their beliefs.
Sex surgeries are happening on minors though. That's an actual thing unfortunatelyNot on people under 18. And not every trans person has bottom surgery.
Calling ACPeds the “actual medical community” is like calling QAnon the actual news media. They are extremists with no legitimacy who have been denounced as quacks by the genuine medical establishment.Sorry the actual medical community is shunning your junk science.
Not everyone but it certainly happens. Are you sure it doesn't happen under 18Not on people under 18. And not every trans person has bottom surgery.
Y'all quoting far leftist wikipedia isn't the win you think it is. Even the co-founder of Wikipedia laments on what leftists have done to it. Sorry the actual medical community is shunning your junk science.
JWolf beat me to it, and did so perfectly. Scummy’s original post is small anti-science activist group.I mean.... They're a tiny fringe "medical community", if that's what you mean. The much larger professional pediatric organizations disagree with most of their beliefs.
I agree that his argument didn't work. That group doesn't seem to speak for all pediatricians but was sold as such.I’d agree. My guess is we will tend more towards the European stance over time. As I said, I don’t really have much passion one way or the other so haven’t researched it well.
That said, I wouldn’t expect this organization to take the lead on making any “wow, huge statements” along the way per the scrudster’s statement. While you focused on the SPLC’s view in your assessment of them, I noted AAP and NIH’s perspective to make mine. Plus, they just crazy based on the eye test. So, using them in an attempt to make some kind of point means you’re either uninformed or a partisan hack.
That's a lot of doctors calling all three of you idiots. I think I'll trust the medical professionals.JWolf beat me to it, and did so perfectly. Scummy’s original post is small anti-science activist group.
This sounds like many of the same type of responses from the pro Covid crowd in the medical community who ridiculed any medical professional who questioned vaccine mandates, school closures, lab leak theory and lockdowns. Again you can attack this group and go into your name calling playbook but neither you or Jwolf have addressed how this is becoming the norm position all across European medicine as well.Calling ACPeds the “actual medical community” is like calling QAnon the actual news media. They are extremists with no legitimacy who have been denounced as quacks by the genuine medical establishment.
But you already knew that.
Well, since they were wrong, it makes since, eh?This sounds like many of the same type of responses from the pro Covid crowd in the medical community who ridiculed any medical professional who questioned vaccine mandates, school closures, lab leak theory and lockdowns.
I don't feel the need to explain my position on European medicine to you, but the fact that American medicine ranks first worldwide in science and technology by a wide margin might have something to do with it. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the some of the most medically advanced European countries (Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Luxemburg) are also tops in transgender rights in Europe.Again you can attack this group and go into your name calling playbook but neither you or Jwolf have addressed how this is becoming the norm position all across European medicine as well.
TriggeredWell, since they were wrong, it makes since, eh?
I don't feel the need to explain my position on European medicine to you, but the fact that American medicine ranks first worldwide in science and technology by a wide margin might have something to do with it. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the some of the most medically advanced European countries (Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Luxemburg) are also tops in transgender rights in Europe.
But you and Scruffy can both move to Europe. I'm sure nobody would miss you.
Lolol are you claiming wpath is the majority? They lost over 60% of their members in the last year so that wouldn't even be possible lmaoSo, the "minority" medical association, run by rightwing zealots, wants to "call out" the mainstream medical associations for not following their minority position...
Lolol are you claiming wpath it the majority?
Lol so sorry for putting it vs is. I assumed the self declared smartest man would be able to pick up on the obvious message, which is that wpath has lost over half its members in the last 12 months for a reason.Try again
In English.
I assume you'd understand the entity you linked is a minority voice over the entire medical community.Lol so sorry for putting it vs is.
Yeah, this crap has been debunked on here several times over the years, but the cultist morans keep believing it.I don't really have a strong opinion on this topic. That said, I always look into the source of these "voices."
So, for transparency, here's the first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry for the American College of Pediatrics organization:
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative advocacy group of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States, founded in 2002. The group advocates against abortion rights and rights for gay, queer, and transgender people. ACPeds promotes conversion therapy and purity culture.[3][4][1] As of 2022, its membership has been reported at about 700 physicians.[5][6][1]
American College of Pediatricians - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Thus, this position does not appear to be a "huge statement" as the scrudster proclaims. Rather, it is right in line with their usual position.
Per the second paragraph:
The organization's view on the relevance of sexual orientation to parenting differs from the position of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which holds that there is no connection between orientation and the ability to be a good parent and to raise healthy and well-adjusted children.[6][7][8] ACPeds has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for pushing "anti-LGBTQ junk science".[3] A number of mainstream researchers, including the director of the US National Institutes of Health, have accused ACPeds of misusing or mischaracterizing their work to advance ACPeds' political agenda.
Oh, and....
60% membership shrinkage in a year. Yikes! Rats fleeing the sinking shipI assume you'd understand the entity you linked is a minority voice over the entire medical community.
Not sure why this cannot sink in for you here.