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I know that there is a signing day coming up on the 12th (at least I think that is the case). If not then when do you think the next big, as in a good kind of big, news will be coming for the Hawks? We seemingly are a little starved for some good news.
 
What recruits are really out there left for the late signing period? The early signing period was in November, and most I can think of put ink to paper already.
 
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Finally watched the ISU press conference. I came away feeling pretty good as an Iowa fan after watching it.
 
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From what I heard, Ramos turned it down. Smart move by Tony as I think it helps his depth and breadth of coaching experience.
Agree, smart move by Tony. Plus I think training with Coleman Scott is best for him if he wants to continue to compete.

However, I don't understand the move by Dresser. Would he really take Ramos as a coach over any of the guys on the new ISU staff? Seems weird that Metcalf would be his backup plan.
 
Agree, smart move by Tony. Plus I think training with Coleman Scott is best for him if he wants to continue to compete.

However, I don't understand the move by Dresser. Would he really take Ramos as a coach over any of the guys on the new ISU staff? Seems weird that Metcalf would be his backup plan.

He may not have thought Metcalf was a real option given their history.
 
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Iowa will be just fine no matter what ISU does. Care to elaborate on what you mean?
Something seems very off with the whole thing. You have an ISU staff that , while they say they are focused on beating PSU, seems obsessed with Iowa. While I like the total house cleaning of the failed ISU element, why not try to get a little diversity? Seems Dresser is focused on being Iowa.

To me it seems like he is focused on putting a staff together that he can use to negative recruit against the Brands. Hell he was doing it in VA, now I think he feels he had to up his game even more and landed Metcalf to do it on full tilt in Iowa's backyard. Sure they may sway a few kids with this but seems like a short sighted vision. With the type of money it sounds like they are throwing around it seems like he could have put together an awesome staff with a little more diversity, with the idea of creating something new. The way it is setup now they are Iowa Lite
 
Something seems very off with the whole thing. You have an ISU staff that , while they say they are focused on beating PSU, seems obsessed with Iowa. While I like the total house cleaning of the failed ISU element, why not try to get a little diversity? Seems Dresser is focused on being Iowa.

To me it seems like he is focused on putting a staff together that he can use to negative recruit against the Brands. Hell he was doing it in VA, now I think he feels he had to up his game even more and landed Metcalf to do it on full tilt in Iowa's backyard. Sure they may sway a few kids with this but seems like a short sighted vision. With the type of money it sounds like they are throwing around it seems like he could have put together an awesome staff with a little more diversity, with the idea of creating something new. The way it is setup now they are Iowa Lite

I think long term, any new staff should be thinking they are going to knock off the top team in the land(clearly PSU right now), but at least short term, I can see why Iowa is their emphasis. They need to create a stir to get ISU back on the map both in state and nationally and bumping heads with Iowa will do that. Recruiting and subsequently competing with Iowa, both on the mat and in the home is a must for ISU's potential success, both short and long term. I can see the "lack of diversity" point being valid, but Dresser clearly has a plan in place, and based on he successes in the past, he seems to know what he is doing.

GO HAWKS!!!
 
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Something seems very off with the whole thing. You have an ISU staff that , while they say they are focused on beating PSU, seems obsessed with Iowa. While I like the total house cleaning of the failed ISU element, why not try to get a little diversity? Seems Dresser is focused on being Iowa.

To me it seems like he is focused on putting a staff together that he can use to negative recruit against the Brands. Hell he was doing it in VA, now I think he feels he had to up his game even more and landed Metcalf to do it on full tilt in Iowa's backyard. Sure they may sway a few kids with this but seems like a short sighted vision. With the type of money it sounds like they are throwing around it seems like he could have put together an awesome staff with a little more diversity, with the idea of creating something new. The way it is setup now they are Iowa Lite

Thanks for elaborating. ISU has to climb the ladder. How many rungs is currently unknown, but before they can think about PSU, they have to compete and pass Iowa and others. While the rivalry has been 1 sided for a very long time, we are both in state and that in and of itself contributes to a certain amount of tit for tat so to speak. Nothing has really changed in that regardless of who ISU's Coach is or was. Not sure why diversity in a Staff makes any difference. I would think you would take it as flattering he wants to emulate Iowa.
 
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Thanks for elaborating. ISU has to climb the ladder. How many rungs is currently unknown, but before they can think about PSU, they have to compete and pass Iowa and others. While the rivalry has been 1 sided for a very long time, we are both in state and that in and of itself contributes to a certain amount of tit for tat so to speak. Nothing has really changed in that regardless of who ISU's Coach is or was. Not sure why diversity in a Staff makes any difference. I would think you would take it as flattering he wants to emulate Iowa.
I do look at as flattering. I also look at it as a bad move on Dressers part.
 
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Thanks for elaborating. ISU has to climb the ladder. How many rungs is currently unknown, but before they can think about PSU, they have to compete and pass Iowa and others. While the rivalry has been 1 sided for a very long time, we are both in state and that in and of itself contributes to a certain amount of tit for tat so to speak. Nothing has really changed in that regardless of who ISU's Coach is or was. Not sure why diversity in a Staff makes any difference. I would think you would take it as flattering he wants to emulate Iowa.

I don't want to put words into Don's mouth, as this may not be what he meant. To me diversity in coaching isn't necessarily who they are or where they came from(from just the name of the school), but rather what they can show/teach in regards to technique, what they can offer in regards to a tough workout partner, what different types of physical training they can offer for conditioning etc.

Whenever I see a kid win a state title as a freshman, especially in a dominant fashion, I always wonder how many coaches had their fingers in that title. Meaning, that kid didn't learn all that it took to get there from one coach, or even one coaching staff, but rather all of the clinics, coaches, camps that he went to over the years. I first started thinking that way when I was coaching high school and saw McGinness win the first of his four, in a manner that was quite amazing to me.

And while this whole staff is from Iowa, they wrestled under different staffs, and different eras, but also(at least with Metcalf and Zadick) with extensive international wrestling under countless coaches and learning technique from all over the world.

So after getting long winded, I can see the benefit in having diversity based on where the coaches come from if that difference allows them to brings different coaching skills to the table, but in this case, even though they are all from Iowa, they still bring coaching diversity to the mat, no doubt.
 
This is still bad news. I don't know, as time goes on, how bad this news is, or will be, for the Hawks. It just seems like a very long time when we had some outstanding, mind-blowing, incredible, great and good news. Out of all of the previous types of news, I would settle for something just good.
 
This is still bad news. I don't know, as time goes on, how bad this news is, or will be, for the Hawks. It just seems like a very long time when we had some outstanding, mind-blowing, incredible, great and good news. Out of all of the previous types of news, I would settle for something just good.

Let's see here from my list......

Fortunato left....

Tognetti is back.....

WidespreadGeo is now a Metcalf fan.....

Feet to Back appears to be MIA

Pollard is stupid...........

Goldbanger & Queso will work for beer.

And you are about to win a new roof from the HWC raffle.........installed by Gobblin & Associates.

Oh yeah...........CC Shoulder is on a trip to the Middle East to establish World Peace. :)
 
Seriously, this used to be my getaway from bad news on other boards and life. I can't believe it's come to this. Even though things aren't actually bad as we portray and we're building back up, I think we can do more. If we're not first we're last. We need to find the an expedient way to get back there, like certain teams, at all cost.
 
Let's see here from my list......

Fortunato left....

Tognetti is back.....

WidespreadGeo is now a Metcalf fan.....

Feet to Back appears to be MIA

Pollard is stupid...........

Goldbanger & Queso will work for beer.

And you are about to win a new roof from the HWC raffle.........installed by Gobblin & Associates.

Oh yeah...........CC Shoulder is on a trip to the Middle East to establish World Peace. :)

Kwood, you may not have won the net today, but this post definitely wins HR today!! :) Your sense of humor is unique - was great meeting you in St. Louis, hope to meet up again sometime!
 
I can deal with this a whole lot better than all the F** we had in March. There were a couple bright spots, well maybe just the one. I am hoping for the sun to come out tomorrow.
 
Let's see here from my list......

Fortunato left....

Tognetti is back.....

WidespreadGeo is now a Metcalf fan.....

Feet to Back appears to be MIA

Pollard is stupid...........

Goldbanger & Queso will work for beer.

And you are about to win a new roof from the HWC raffle.........installed by Gobblin & Associates.

Oh yeah...........CC Shoulder is on a trip to the Middle East to establish World Peace. :)
Speaking of Queso...I thought we'd be hearing from him in light of recent news.
 
I don't want to put words into Don's mouth, as this may not be what he meant. To me diversity in coaching isn't necessarily who they are or where they came from(from just the name of the school), but rather what they can show/teach in regards to technique, what they can offer in regards to a tough workout partner, what different types of physical training they can offer for conditioning etc.

Whenever I see a kid win a state title as a freshman, especially in a dominant fashion, I always wonder how many coaches had their fingers in that title. Meaning, that kid didn't learn all that it took to get there from one coach, or even one coaching staff, but rather all of the clinics, coaches, camps that he went to over the years. I first started thinking that way when I was coaching high school and saw McGinness win the first of his four, in a manner that was quite amazing to me.

And while this whole staff is from Iowa, they wrestled under different staffs, and different eras, but also(at least with Metcalf and Zadick) with extensive international wrestling under countless coaches and learning technique from all over the world.

So after getting long winded, I can see the benefit in having diversity based on where the coaches come from if that difference allows them to brings different coaching skills to the table, but in this case, even though they are all from Iowa, they still bring coaching diversity to the mat, no doubt.

There was a few ways his statement could have been taken. I didn't want to assume, so that's why I asked. I took it as he meant all being from Iowa. Yours is also a good diversity breakdown as well.
 
Dresser did say that he needs to be able to recruit in his backyard. I don't understand the issue with his staff. 75% of the staff that he had success with at VT is at Iowa State. Seems a lot better than stating from scratch. He can go concentrate on other aspects of the program and know Zadick and St John are running practices how he wants them done.

Maybe I don't get what the concern is. Is it style? If that is the case Tom & Terry makes no sense as did Trent and Travis.

I think we get to top 10, but top 5 and the very top is going to be tough for most staffs. PSU, Ok State, Ohio State, Iowa, Cornell, VT, Missouri, Michigan, ASU, NC St and probably a few I am missing are all set up for top 10 finishes
 
Dresser did say that he needs to be able to recruit in his backyard. I don't understand the issue with his staff. 75% of the staff that he had success with at VT is at Iowa State. Seems a lot better than stating from scratch. He can go concentrate on other aspects of the program and know Zadick and St John are running practices how he wants them done.

Maybe I don't get what the concern is. Is it style? If that is the case Tom & Terry makes no sense as did Trent and Travis.

I think we get to top 10, but top 5 and the very top is going to be tough for most staffs. PSU, Ok State, Ohio State, Iowa, Cornell, VT, Missouri, Michigan, ASU, NC St and probably a few I am missing are all set up for top 10 finishes

You must be psyched...you have been a great fan to HWWC (Clones) so I am glad to see guys like you rewarded for your loyalty with what appears to be a great staff and a bright future.

As to the concerns, I just see folks poking holes...thats all.
 
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Dresser did say that he needs to be able to recruit in his backyard. I don't understand the issue with his staff. 75% of the staff that he had success with at VT is at Iowa State. Seems a lot better than stating from scratch. He can go concentrate on other aspects of the program and know Zadick and St John are running practices how he wants them done.

Maybe I don't get what the concern is. Is it style? If that is the case Tom & Terry makes no sense as did Trent and Travis.

I think we get to top 10, but top 5 and the very top is going to be tough for most staffs. PSU, Ok State, Ohio State, Iowa, Cornell, VT, Missouri, Michigan, ASU, NC St and probably a few I am missing are all set up for top 10 finishes

Not sure I see too many people who think you guys have a bad coaching staff.
 
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I am an Iowa State fan for 45+ years. Dresser is a year younger than me and from the same high school conference. Iowa State will always be my favorite, but love good wrestling period. So I can overlook details like which college they are from, if it brings a good program to Iowa State. Excited for the future
 
Good news? Hawks are about to get rolling with their future coach coming in with Spencer Lee. Warner. What? Iowa is going to kill recruiting next year. Iowa will be the black hats that say F*+% fun, we're going to start building monsters. Join the dark side, and grow hammers.
 
Good news? You can save money on car insurance with Geico.
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I am an Iowa State fan for 45+ years. Dresser is a year younger than me and from the same high school conference. Iowa State will always be my favorite, but love good wrestling period. So I can overlook details like which college they are from, if it brings a good program to Iowa State. Excited for the future

I'm the same. An ISU fan who appreciates good wrestling no matter the singlet. Any dislike, which is very few is due to specific fans attitudes/comments who don't represent an entire fan base. Wrestling fans, like wrestlers are a different breed.
 
I remember years ago I was in Ames for an ISU vs Iowa duel and Lou Banach injured a knee and the the whole arena erupted in cheers. I have never seen anything like that in all my years of following many sports.
 
I remember years ago I was in Ames for an ISU vs Iowa duel and Lou Banach injured a knee and the the whole arena erupted in cheers. I have never seen anything like that in all my years of following many sports.
Sadly, that reminds me of the ISU section erupting in glee when an obviously-injured McD lost in the consolations in Des Moines to miss the podium his senior year. About made me puke.
 
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