Aren't you suspicious of the same government that is bombing civilians and arming terrorists in the ME, wants to take away the guns of 'law abiding civilians' in its own country? After all, Obombya disarmed Libya and then bombed them. Killary Klinton laughed about it. Don't trust these psychopaths.
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I've definitely made comments about war deaths, but generally not in a thread about war deaths.
As for the cops, stating that I was glad they were dead probably wouldn't be qualified as grandstanding. I wasn't trying to make a political point, just stating my growing hatred of cops.
Always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism about govts in general however your fear is misplaced. Your concern should not be with Obama, Hillary or any other individual politician. Be concerned about the military instead. While the most powerful military in the world may protect us, it also can enslave us. If the military is what we should fear than today we should be working to weaken it by defunding it. And that is an argument I don't see anyone making.
Right, it's a political point and grandstanding when other people make comments about current events, just not when you do it. Makes perfect sense now, thanks for clearing that up.
So what IS the appropriate amount of time after people bury their babies before they can discuss changing the laws that made it so easy for the killer to get the guns they used before you're morally offended?
We've managed to kill literally MILLIONS of each other over the past couple century since the 2nd amendment was written and have yet to use those same guns to repel a single coup or overturn a single government. Perhaps some of you are placing too much emphasis on the one threat over the other.
No argument from me. Except, as you alluded, it needs to be defunded. Thus, it is the private banking cartel that provides that funding. It is the politicians that allow certain officers to climb the ranks in promotions if they march in line to political edict. It is the politicians who go to the bankers for money to run a campaign. Defang the beast, the FedRes.
Isn't the ability to defend oneself a natural right? Why are you okay with cops coming to a crime scene with guns blazing AFTER the crime has been committed?
Our government has killed many millions more since WW2.
Oh, then it must have been the comment about the government killing "millions more since WWII". How many of those were US citizens since that was the topic we were addressing? Or does he just throw random non sequiturs like you?
I meant that I didn't take your post as support for the police killing people.
What do you want to talk about now, bubbie?
What do you want to talk about now, bubbie?
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Ok you're just returning so I'll cut you some slack. But there are rules here. If you talk about boobies you must post pics. I need this rule enforced so I have cover for my favorite topics. And if you feel like tossing me a bone, I'll show gratitude.
I wasn't trying to "say" boobies, like in female breasts. My take was more from the movie 'Die Hard'. You remember? The, "Hans...boobie!" If you have a better way to type it, I'm all ears.
Edit: I guess it's bubbie. I'll make the changes. =)
How about pics of each and we will try to sort it out?
I can't believe I have to beg for boobs. This place is going to hades.
It's not a matter of trusting the government. Why do you believe the government would tyrannize the people if they weren't armed? (Not that that will ever happen). How would the government do it, and for what? We have an all-volunteer military. That's who'd be tapped to oppress. Those people aren't serving because of loyalty to the President/cabinet or Congress. You know what's more powerful than guns? A country full of snitches with access to twitter and instagram.
I don't share your reverence for a bunch of drunks convening in Philadelphia. How pathetic is it that we've given up on trying to do better than them? They did well for the time. It's been a few years and things have changed a bit.
No. You didn't say so. The point you fail to see is the same government that holds life in such low regard, is the same one trying to take away guns. Governments are just people who lust for power over people.
So change it, but do it through the correct channels, like amending the Constitution. Don't do it through dictatorial fiat, like our last few presidents have done.
Sad that you feel that way, you are obviously very misguided regarding what killed those children.
clue = it was the mental health system
More children are murdered every 5 minutes through abortion in the U.S than were killed in all the mass shootings combined in the last 2 years but the liberals are silent because to them some murders of children count and some don't
Sad
I don't see the NRA or gun enthusiats actually trying to get our mental health facilities funded and supported, but maybe I missed it.
Sorry it's not the NRA's job, I understand that liberals don't want to deal with the root cause of much anything but let's not push it off on to the NRA.
If they NRA wants to lobby guns into every hand in America and oppose new regulations then you would think they would work towards the problem they scapegoat as their opinioned cause of mass killings.
It's simply not their problem more importantly every time a wacko goes on a rampage it simply makes it easier for the NRA to defend it's position that it's not a gun issue.
As the NRA lobbies to make sure there aren't more gun regulations, and guns can move rather fluidly through the market it helps the NRA's argument that mass killings are because of mental health issues, and the underfunded mental health system?
Arb, I'm going to need to see your logic on this.
Did I miss something?
I thought the gun-control folks were calling for certain people to be barred from buying guns and for certain guns not to be available for sale.
That's a whole lot different from "taking away the guns of law-abiding people."
I'll give it a read. I do think I mentioned earlier on in the thread that if they have lobbied for mental health type laws and what not that I was not aware.
Shucking and jiving again.
Sorry - confiscation is not the same thing as reasonable regulation.
You simply aren't being serious on this. Or on the Germany thread.
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