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Are you religious?

I left the church, not Jesus. The church promoted Carlson/“Judas” to arch bishop after details of the scandal he kept hidden were finally revealed.

He's one bishop. There are 290 bishops. Many of them will be saints.

What does that have to do with the Eucharist? It's still valid.

Did you join another church?

Because you did indeed leave Jesus because of a Judas.
 
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He's one bishop. There are 290 bishops. Many of them will be saints.

What does that have to do with the Eucharist? It's still valid.

Did you join another church?

Because you did indeed leave Jesus because of a Judas.
Bubby, you’re fighting a losing battle. The organized church is fvcked. Organize the people of Christ and not the takers.
 
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He's one bishop. There are 290 bishops. Many of them will be saints.

What does that have to do with the Eucharist? It's still valid.

Did you join another church?

Because you did indeed leave Jesus because of a Judas.
Jesus is not the property of the Catholic Church. Don’t be an idiot.
 
Bubby, you’re fighting a losing battle. The organized church is fvcked. Organize the people of Christ and not the takers.

I agree with you completely. I just try to provide a defense.

Christianity is over in this country.
 
I wouldn't bet your eternity on that, my friend.

If humans live forever and our fate is sealed at death and we spend FOREVER either in Heaven or Hell based on these 70, 80 years here...that's serious business.

Nothing else really matters in the final analysis.
You keep holding on to that theory my friend, because that’s all it is. It’s a fact you and I will go back to the earth after we’re dead. Apparently your feeble mind can’t grasp that concept, which makes perfect sense, based on your beliefs.
 
I agree with you completely. I just try to provide a defense.

Christianity is over in this country.
I’m not a Christian but I’ve learned plenty from Jesus. Teach your truth, brother, and always remember when things get bad you can shake the dirt off your sandals and walk my way.
 
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You keep holding on to that theory my friend, because that’s all it is. It’s a fact you and I will go back to the earth after we’re dead. Apparently your feeble mind can’t grasp that concept, which makes perfect sense, based on your beliefs.

No need for the insults. I know atheists get threatened when they're challenged by others.

I'm an ex-atheist. So is college professor Howard Storm.

I know it's comforting to believe that this life is all there is, but I and Howard know from experience there is more.

 
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I’m not a Christian but I’ve learned plenty from Jesus. Teach your truth, brother, and always remember when things get bad you can shake the dirt off your sandals and walk my way.

Thanks. Good points.

We all have free will and I can't convince anyone of anything.
 
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He'll be dead soon enough.

And then the greatest mystery of all time will he revealed to him. :)

Also, tons of scientists believe in life after death.

The best scientist ever did: Sir Isaac Newton.

He also thought worshipping Jesus was blasphemous. So in his eyes you’re going to hell, bummer for you.
 
The Catholic Church was the original Mafia.

God is the leading cause of death in history.

Religion is all about money and power.

It’s a load of bullshit. There is no God. There is no Satan. The Old Testament is a book of fairy tales. The New Testament is full of fibs and exaggerations.

**** Religion.
 
Experience? I’m intrigued, please go on

Did you watch the video? Howard Storm also has 200 interviews on YouTube you can watch.

I was agnostic/atheist for 15 years. In August of 2016, I had a very bad experience one night. It took me months to recover from. I'm totally sane, I promise. :)

It's too personal to talk about.

Let's just say spiritual warfare is real.
 
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The Catholic Church was the original Mafia.

God is the leading cause of death in history.

Religion is all about money and power.

It’s a load of bullshit. There is no God. There is no Satan. The Old Testament is a book of fairy tales. The New Testament is full of fibs and exaggerations.

**** Religion.

Jesus 100% existed.
 
Did you watch the video? Howard Storm also has 200 interviews on YouTube you can watch.

I was agnostic/atheist for 15 years. In August of 2016, I had a very bad experience one night. It took me months to recover from. I'm totally sane, I promise. :)

It's too personal to talk about. Let's just say spiritual warfare is real.
I didn’t watch, and I won’t. If it’s about near death experiences, well, the body and brain can do some crazy things when they are going through shock. I’m sure there are people who have experienced some crazy shit, it doesn’t mean it was real though.
 
I didn’t watch, and I won’t. If it’s about near death experiences, well, the body and brain can do some crazy things when they are going through shock. I’m sure there are people who have experienced some crazy shit, it doesn’t mean it was real though.

How can you know for sure if it didn't happen to you?

When you left the Catholic Church because of one bad bishop, did you join another one?
 
Correct. Martin Luther inspired them with his anti-semitism.

The Nazis displayed his work at their rallies.

He was no saint.


Well, we might tango here. @goldmom might have to interrupt us for some cha cha cha. Luther pointed out all the fallacies of the catholic church
 
Luther didn't go far enough. Not only do you not need the Catholic Church, you don't need organized religion at all.

That's not what Jesus said.

We do need a church.

 
I’m not saying he didn’t. I’m saying there are a lot of exaggerations as to what happened at times. Do you really think he turned water into wine and Mary was a virgin when she gave birth?

Yes.

Jesus's miracles are so well attested to historically that it would be odd if they were just made up.
 
Well, we might tango here. @goldmom might have to interrupt us for some cha cha cha. Luther pointed out all the fallacies of the catholic church

Luther could have stayed and made reforms.

Instead, he left and invented his own theology (Sola Scriptura) which is self refuting.

Also, Luther wouldn't want his followers called "Lutherans." He would shudder at that.

Regardless, Lutherans are still my brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
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