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BrianNole777 said:
How can you know for sure if it didn't happen to you?

When you left the Catholic Church because of one bad bishop, did you join another one?
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You’re getting me confused with someone else. I left the Catholic Church because of hypocrisy and the constant feeling of being led to believe things that were obviously not true. It was like they were grooming me to be something I didn’t want to be, you know like being in a cult or something, I just didn’t like the feeling I got in church. Maybe you’re right though, I should give another religion a try.
 
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nu2u said:
Ahhh, the Eucharist. Do you believe in transubstantiation - the Catholic belief that the bread and wine received at Communion are literally the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ himself?

If so, good for you but I didn’t buy that ridiculous shit from day one.
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Of course.

Jesus said it. Jesus doesn't lie.

Transubstantiaton makes sense when you know the substance or essence changes into the body and blood of Christ. The accidents such as taste, color are unchanged.

It's a supernatural grace.

You never answered, did you find another church or leave the faith entirely?
 
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InsaneHawkJJP said:
You’re getting me confused with someone else. I left the Catholic Church because of hypocrisy and the constant feeling of being led to believe things that were obviously not true. It was like they were grooming me to be something I didn’t want to be, you know like being in a cult or something, I just didn’t like the feeling I got in church. Maybe you’re right though, I should give another religion a try.
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Not much to lose except eternal woe.

Masstimes.org
 
BrianNole777 said:
Of course.

Jesus said it. Jesus doesn't lie.

Transubstantiaton makes sense when you know the substance or essence changes into the body and blood of Christ. The accidents such as taste, color are unchanged.

It's a supernatural grace.

You never answered, did you find another church or leave the faith entirely?
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I already stated that I have chosen to study Buddhism - it’s not a religion but it suits me better.
 
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BrianNole777 said:
That's not what Jesus said.

We do need a church.

Matthew 18:15-20 “If a fellow believer hurts you, go and tell him—work it out between the two of you. If he listens, you’ve made a friend. If he won’t listen, take one or two others along so that the presence of witne Moreover if thy brother shall tr

“If a fellow believer hurts you, go and tell him—work it out between the two of you. If he listens, you’ve made a friend. If he won’t listen, take one or two others along so that the presence of witne Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and...
www.bible.com
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Do what you want.

I am more Buddhist at this point.

The Eightfold Path.
 
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BrianNole777 said:
Buddhism doesn't believe in a soul, does it?

Getting re-incarnated again and again seems like torture. No offense. :)
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So that would be your hell. It would be my heaven, even if I was a mayfly that only lived for one hour, to experience life on this amazing planet over and over again is a much better option than living with a very spiteful and angry deity for eternity.
 
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Raised Lutheran (ELCA). Did Sunday school, went to and taught bible school, catechism, confirmation, etc. As an adult, I went to church less and less.

As someone already mentioned, there is a difference between being religious and being spiritual. I am spiritual. Part of the reason for becoming less religious was the hypocrisy, cherry picking, and weaponization of religion. Went through a long agnostic period, and still have agnostic moments. But then I see some of the truly miraculous things in the world and I find it hard to believe that there isn’t a divine hand involved.

I do still use some of my religious education as a guide for how to live my life. I try to do unto others, show hospitality to strangers, etc. I happen to have learned those lessons in Sunday school, but empathy and compassion are not exclusive to Christianity.

That’s what saddens me about some Christians and some religions. There is too much time spent trying to prove who’s right and who’s wrong, and especially trying to dictate how others are supposed to live their lives according to the religious principles you happen to adhere to. We seem to suffer from a lack of charity, Christian or otherwise.
 
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InsaneHawkJJP said:
So that would be your hell. It would be my heaven, even if I was a mayfly that only lived for one hour, to experience life on this amazing planet over and over again is a much better option than living with a very spiteful and angry deity for eternity.
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Jesus isn't spiteful.

The Beatific Vision is infinitely better than this world.

I have no idea why anyone would want to keep coming back here.

I'm glad you would like that, though.
 
BrianNole777 said:
I think it's good so far!

Everyone is free to have their own beliefs. Debating/arguing doesn't work.

We do live in an atheist country now so I understand most Americans are unchurched.
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According to the article you cited earlier, about 70% of Americans are still spiritual/believe in a higher power. Do you believe that a person can believe in a higher power and live a good life without attending church?
 
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InsaneHawkJJP said:
So that would be your hell. It would be my heaven, even if I was a mayfly that only lived for one hour, to experience life on this amazing planet over and over again is a much better option than living with a very spiteful and angry deity for eternity.
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Right intention and right action are hard. HORTGOAT is good practice. I'm trying.
 
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kcnole63 said:
According to the article you cited earlier, about 70% of Americans are still spiritual/believe in a higher power. Do you believe that a person can believe in a higher power and live a good life without attending church?
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Yes to the first question. Living a "good life" is relative since we all do bad stuff all the time.

I think never attending church makes it much harder to attain the Beatific Vision after death.

I also believe America will collapse if/when church attendance drops further in a few decades.
 
gamedayron01 said:
Bullshit. It never went to the levels it did until rulers wanted to use it for their own benifit.

The Catholic Church is a fraud and its followers are sheep.
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If you say so.

If you want to bet your life on atheism, you're free to do so.

As an ex-atheist, I really wouldn't recommend it.
 
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