Arrests of the Traitors coming in now

[GolfHacker1]

You're correct about what, exactly?

They have the right to wave that flag, no matter how offensive anyone finds it.

The answer to the rest of your rant is that I don't care what the two others think, although I've been shot at defending their right to think it. I respec ttheir service, especially if they saw combat. But again, I don't care what they think, and I'm not critical of it, I simply just don't care. Just as I would be surprised if they cared what I thought. Which I really haven't posted, you just sort of assumed.

 

[Joes Place]

They have the right to wave that flag, no matter how offensive anyone finds it.

You're the only one arguing this point.

 

[Joes Place]

I simply just don't care.

Seems like you do care.
You're apparently in favor of it.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Seems like you do care.
You're apparently in favor of it.

In favor of what? I am in favor or people being able to express opinions that I might happen to disagree with if that's what you mean.

 

[NCHawk5]

I think this circle jerk has gone on long enough.

 

[GolfHacker1]

I think this circle jerk has gone on long enough.

Not yet, but soon. Because Trump will be charged any day now. Meanwhile, back in reality................

 

[BGHAWK]

They have the right to wave that flag, no matter how offensive anyone finds it.

The answer to the rest of your rant is that I don't care what the two others think, although I've been shot at defending their right to think it. I respec ttheir service, especially if they saw combat. But again, I don't care what they think, and I'm not critical of it, I simply just don't care. Just as I would be surprised if they cared what I thought. Which I really haven't posted, you just sort of assumed.

I don't believe everything I read on here, but if you are a combat veteran for America, then thank you for your service. My question would be, what does being a combat veteran have to do with the conversation? trump has set the stage multiple times over the years for people to denigrate Five Star families and denigrating a POW (McCain) and calling those who gave their all as suckers and losers, so what else would we expect from his followers?

 

[GolfHacker1]

I don't believe everything I read on here, but if you are a combat veteran for America, then thank you for your service. My question would be, what does being a combat veteran have to do with the conversation? trump has set the stage multiple times over the years for people to denigrate Five Star families and denigrating a POW (McCain) and calling those who gave their all as suckers and losers, so what else would we expect from his followers?

The issue of veterans and what they thought wasn't brought up by me, I just responded. So now we know the blanket statement is incorrect. I'm not offended by those people using that flag. I don't necessarily support it, or oppose it, I'm indifferent. I'm certainly not offended by people exercising their rights. On either side FWIW.

As for the rest of the post, several of these items have been debunked. You can believe that, do some research, or not. That's up to you. But there are several former Trump administration officials, one notably that doesn't currently like Trump, who gave insider views on why much of these widely reported stories aren't accurate. No one really knows, but I personally choose to believe the one guy who hates Trump, and indicates this stuff isn't true. The Five Star family thing is interesting in that he clearly didn't like the one set of folks, but largely Five Star families supported him. So I'm not speaking to, or defending that, specifically. But the suckers and losers has been debunked by someone who doesn't like Trump, and was present when this supposedly happened. Which is going to be as good of a source as we ever get. And doesn't change the fact the entire debate is not going to change anything, in any meaningful way. Especially since he is no longer POTUS, and presumably, this issue, along with several others, aided in his departure.

In the end my position is that this thread is as ridiculous as the Benghazi threads. The DOJ has already given a report to Congress, and Trump is off the hook. Some people got out of control. Maybe way out of control. Was it an insurrection? I doubt these people can get their clothes on in the morning, let alone conspirer to overthrow the US Government. Some of the prosecutions are pushing the limit of fairness as I see it, but those being prosecuted wouldn't be getting prosecuted if they practiced some restraint, and federal criminal justice reform, and reform of federal law enforcement is an issue that needs addressed outside of partisan extremists, of which this thread is largely comprised of.

This said, I do find it entertaining that those that hated right extremists for this type of debate and behavior, copy it exactly, and seem to think it's o.k. when they participate in it. All the while convincing no one, and solving nothing.

 

[Joes Place]

The issue of veterans and what they thought wasn't brought up by me, I just responded.

You downplayed it.
Brushed off someone equating 1/6 criminals are "the same as" POWs/MIAs.

 

[Joes Place]

In the end my position is that this thread is as ridiculous as the Benghazi threads.

Benghazi had 0 arrests.

DOJ hasn't yet been handed all the evidence that Congress' committee has gathered.
And there's only 1 Congressional investigation going on, not 4.

And those in the Benghazi investigation testified willingly and openly. Here, there are multiple players who have taken the 5th and refuse to testify.

This is where I can tell you're either grossly misinformed to compare the two, or you're just another MAGA looking for a bad "whataboutism" example.

 

[BGHAWK]

The issue of veterans and what they thought wasn't brought up by me, I just responded. So now we know the blanket statement is incorrect. I'm not offended by those people using that flag. I don't necessarily support it, or oppose it, I'm indifferent. I'm certainly not offended by people exercising their rights. On either side FWIW.

As for the rest of the post, several of these items have been debunked. You can believe that, do some research, or not. That's up to you. But there are several former Trump administration officials, one notably that doesn't currently like Trump, who gave insider views on why much of these widely reported stories aren't accurate. No one really knows, but I personally choose to believe the one guy who hates Trump, and indicates this stuff isn't true. The Five Star family thing is interesting in that he clearly didn't like the one set of folks, but largely Five Star families supported him. So I'm not speaking to, or defending that, specifically. But the suckers and losers has been debunked by someone who doesn't like Trump, and was present when this supposedly happened. Which is going to be as good of a source as we ever get. And doesn't change the fact the entire debate is not going to change anything, in any meaningful way. Especially since he is no longer POTUS, and presumably, this issue, along with several others, aided in his departure.

In the end my position is that this thread is as ridiculous as the Benghazi threads. The DOJ has already given a report to Congress, and Trump is off the hook. Some people got out of control. Maybe way out of control. Was it an insurrection? I doubt these people can get their clothes on in the morning, let alone conspirer to overthrow the US Government. Some of the prosecutions are pushing the limit of fairness as I see it, but those being prosecuted wouldn't be getting prosecuted if they practiced some restraint, and federal criminal justice reform, and reform of federal law enforcement is an issue that needs addressed outside of partisan extremists, of which this thread is largely comprised of.

This said, I do find it entertaining that those that hated right extremists for this type of debate and behavior, copy it exactly, and seem to think it's o.k. when they participate in it. All the while convincing no one, and solving nothing.

You exist in a much different world of reality for sure with that narrative.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

You exist in a much different world of reality for sure with that narrative.

I think he likes a different reality than what is real in all aspects of his life.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Benghazi had 0 arrests.

DOJ hasn't yet been handed all the evidence that Congress' committee has gathered.
And there's only 1 Congressional investigation going on, not 4.

And those in the Benghazi investigation testified willingly and openly. Here, there are multiple players who have taken the 5th and refuse to testify.

This is where I can tell you're either grossly misinformed to compare the two, or you're just another MAGA looking for a bad "whataboutism" example.

I never knew it was Congress who would hand over evidence to the DOJ. I guess I confused enforcement and investigation with oversight.

As if the DOJ doesn't already have this evidence, and as if Congress is going to find more. In some alternate reality.

And yes, DOJ hast already hinted at the outcome. In writing. And even reported.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

 

[Joes Place]

I never knew it was Congress who would hand over evidence to the DOJ.

You probably also never knew that Congress had the ability to subpoena and gather information that would've taken DOJ months (if not years) to get hold of....


Seems as though there's an awful lot you "don't know"...

 

[Joes Place]

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

Kewl

6 month old articles
From an agency that doesn't have access to the Committee's information yet.

 

[GolfHacker1]

So you’re taking the position that Congress will do a better investigative job then the FBI?

interesting position. Not close to accurate, but interesting.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

Since this article was written there have been a plethora of felony arrests for seditious conspiracy that allege a lot of coordination.

Soooooooo, there's that...

 

[NCHawk5]

Since this article was written there have been a plethora of felony arrests for seditious conspiracy that allege a lot of coordination.

Soooooooo, there's that...

Yup any day now they’ll tie this back to Trump. The conspiracy will be exposed! Traitors!

 

[GolfHacker1]

Since this article was written there have been a plethora of felony arrests for seditious conspiracy that allege a lot of coordination.

Soooooooo, there's that...

There is that. Which isn't much, and doesn't really change what the FBI insiders have already revealed. Which is that there isn't much coordination.

Don't do this to yourselves. Trump isn't getting indicted, arrested or convicted.

If he was, at some point he'd be called in to an FBI interview, correct? Let me know when that happens.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Kewl

6 month old articles
From an agency that doesn't have access to the Committee's information yet.

Ha ha. The FBI doesn't have access to evidence, but Congress does. Kewl, whatever that means.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

There is that. Which isn't much, and doesn't really change what the FBI insiders have already revealed. Which is that there isn't much coordination.

Appreciate the acknowledgement that there was some.

And why are you defending that, again?

 

[Joes Place]

So you’re taking the position that Congress will do a better investigative job then the FBI?

No, I've informed you that Congress has the ability to gather information MUCH FASTER than FBI can, and they HAVE.

As well as compel testimony under oath.

You seem woefully ignorant on this topic.

 

[Joes Place]

Ha ha. The FBI doesn't have access to evidence, but Congress does.

The FBI cannot compel witnesses to testify. Congress can.
The FBI would NEVER have been able to access phone records in the time the Congressional committee has access those data.

Once those pieces of information are available to FBI, THEN FBI can issue more warrants, but they must have probable cause. Congress needs no such probable cause requirement for their work

 

[Joes Place]

There is that. Which isn't much

It's actually A LOT

And many others already indicted are cooperating with Congress and DOJ.

 

[Joes Place]

Don't do this to yourselves. Trump isn't getting indicted, arrested or convicted.

I haven't mentioned Trump once.

 

[GolfHacker1]

The FBI cannot compel witnesses to testify. Congress can.
The FBI would NEVER have been able to access phone records in the time the Congressional committee has access those data.

Once those pieces of information are available to FBI, THEN FBI can issue more warrants, but they must have probable cause. Congress needs no such probable cause requirement for their work

There is so much incorrect here, I don't know where to begin. But I'll just quote this, so those that understand can see what they're dealing with.

How does one know what is incorrect? I'd start with simple Google searches, and ultimately, if there is a broader FBI criminal probe, and later charges, see if any of the catalyst for the investigation and/or charges were a result of Congress. It's happened, but it's pretty rare. Never has happened when one political party controls both Congress and DOJ for obvious reasons.

Maybe Google phrases such as FBI and subpoena ad testificandum and subpoena duces tecum.

Finally, apply common sense. Just say out loud that in a criminal investigation Congress can gather evidence quicker than the FBI. And ask yourself if that makes any sense. Or ask yourself, if the FBI is a better investigative mechanism then Congress, which is almost universally accepted, why hasn't the FBI called these people in for questioning? It is true that normally the FBI starts low to high (and doesn't confirm investigations), but after this amount of time, and after they've already leaked on this matter, they haven't even called in the lowest levels yet.

 

[BGHAWK]

There is so much incorrect here, I don't know where to begin. But I'll just quote this, so those that understand can see what they're dealing with.

How does one know what is incorrect? I'd start with simple Google searches, and ultimately, if there is a broader FBI criminal probe, and later charges, see if any of the catalyst for the investigation and/or charges were a result of Congress. It's happened, but it's pretty rare. Never has happened when one political party controls both Congress and DOJ for obvious reasons.

Maybe Google phrases such as FBI and subpoena ad testificandum and subpoena duces tecum.

Finally, apply common sense. Just say out loud that in a criminal investigation Congress can gather evidence quicker than the FBI. And ask yourself if that makes any sense. Or ask yourself, if the FBI is a better investigative mechanism then Congress, which is almost universally accepted, why hasn't the FBI called these people in for questioning? It is true that normally the FBI starts low to high (and doesn't confirm investigations), but after this amount of time, and after they've already leaked on this matter, they haven't even called in the lowest levels yet.

Be patient troll.

 

[SSG T]

They have the right to wave that flag, no matter how offensive anyone finds it.

The answer to the rest of your rant is that I don't care what the two others think, although I've been shot at defending their right to think it. I respec ttheir service, especially if they saw combat. But again, I don't care what they think, and I'm not critical of it, I simply just don't care. Just as I would be surprised if they cared what I thought. Which I really haven't posted, you just sort of assumed.

Yes, they have a right to fly it. The good part, it lets them tell on themselves. The bad part, it's an FU to the troops they claim to support and to those who came before and didn't come home.

 

[Joes Place]

Just say out loud that in a criminal investigation Congress can gather evidence quicker than the FBI.

FBI requires evidence of a crime to obtain subpoenas for evidence.

A Congressional investigation does not.

See, you answered your own question and didn't even know it!!!

 

[Joes Place]

Yes, they have a right to fly it.

A point that no one argued.

He brought that up as a complete distraction to what the point actually is.

 

[TheCainer]

This is it. This is the one.

Dopey says what?

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Dopey says what?

Hey Huey.

 

[TheCainer]

Well, I'm a combat vet, and yes, I do think your posts are funny. Funny in so far as you claim to believe in civil liberties, but based on your post, you in fact only agree with civil liberties when they don't offend you.

News flash, whether someone's right to free speech is offensive or not, it is their right.

Combat vet?

Did you know Vic Morrow?????!!!!!!

 

[TheCainer]

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

www.reuters.com

LOL

Did you check the date on your article????

It was August of 2021.

Wonder what has been uncovered since then????

 

[TheCainer]

Hey Huey.

Did you ever figure out what the US's longest war was?

LOL

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Did you ever figure out what the US's longest war was?

LOL

What?


Not only do I not know what you are talking about you seem distracted from this clearly forthcoming treason charge. There is someone that pokes holes now!

 

[TheCainer]

What?

Not this $hit again.

Too much!

LOL

Told you before. Stay off the dope, DOPEY.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Not this $hit again.

Too much!

LOL

Told you before. Stay off the dope, DOPEY.

Not this $hit again.

Too much!

LOL

Told you before. Stay off the dope, DOPEY.

Are you talking about your obscure ass reference to your question about nato doing more for the US than us doing for Nato? Might want to reread the question it wasn't about the longest war.


Hey Huey, I think your multiple personalities are funny. Switch back to your other account though, I like the avatar better.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Not this $hit again.

Too much!

LOL

Told you before. Stay off the dope, DOPEY.

Incase anyone needs a crash course in how well this shit is going for the pisspants of the board, feel free to laugh at this shit.