Agree and the style of teams like Minn. Wisc. and Ill played last year where they play at a slow pace and run the ball limiting the number of plays for both teams.
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My hunch is the defenses were good but those in the West were also aided by playing against poor offenses. Same is true for the B12 offenses, they are probably good but aided by playing against less than stellar defenses.
Both of those stats are meaningless. Points per possession is really all that matters.
Iowa only had 274 yards against Nebraska. And Iowa was trailing the entire game and needed to move the ball and score. (Unlike the Kentucky game.) I guess if they had played Big 12 defenses last year instead of B1G, the offense's total YPG would have improved all the way from 130 to 129.
Not exactly. PPP is but one metric. When the offense is continually given the ball in favorable field position but continually has to settle for field goals, PPP might not look horrible, but the offense was still bad. Offensive efficiency takes the other important metrics like red zone efficiency, first downs, and yards per play into account.
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Pick one game, Neb where we played our second string QB and our best offensive player, LaPorta was out and we had 4 turnovers.
Who has a worse offense ISU or Iowa?
ISU played 1 top 15 defense in total defense, Iowa, while Iowa played 7 top 15 defenses or over half our schedule. The next best defense ISU played was Texas at #54 who allowed 368 YPG, unlike Illinois 274, ISU 286, Mich 292, Minn 295 and Wisc 303. We played 9 teams with a better defense than Texas.
On the flip side the worst defense we played was Neb at #100 who allowed 414 YGP, while ISU played Texas Tech #108, Ohio #109, Okla St #115, Oklahoma #123, and Kansas #127.
I believe the worst offense was ISU. They didn't come close to playing the defenses Iowa did. They played 6 defenses that allowed over 400 YPG Iowa played 1. Both Okla and Kansas allowed over 460 YPG. ISU was # 83 in total offense with 370 YPG and got 469 against SE Missouri St who was not close to South Dakota State in defense.
We had 7 defensive scores to lead the nation while ISU had 0. 7 times our offense did not take the field and like the Kentucky game these scores change your strategy to running clock and limiting turn-overs with safe passes.
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Right….and I bet you could find professional teams that do it too…😜
You state silly claims that nobody could prove because we don’t “know” stated teams….
And for months….Hell I’ve Pooh poohed people for years who constantly complain.
I’ve also said plainly he has been poor. My guess is you don’t watch much football if you don’t see plenty of tendencies and questionable adjustments everywhere?
But hey, you claim what you want!
No you’re not… we’ve been down this road before. I really don’t care what you think about my poor punctuation. And I have six kids and I assure you some of them would care deeply about punctuation & some of them wouldn’t.
PS they’re all doing fine by the way!
I’m baffled you continually think you can shame me or make me feel bad because I don’t care about my loose grammar or punctuation?!
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Thank you. So obviously 2015 also happened to be our best year. I'm in the @mthawkeyes camp that we are incredibly predictable. Kirk seems to think that's ok if you can just execute. And he's probably right a lot on that. We somehow managed to win 10 games in 2021 and even 8 last year w/a QB that couldn't execute his own funeral. Clearly better players make it easier to execute. Parkers system has pretty much become plug and play. Offense not so much. And I don't think we do a lot different on defense than we have over the years. It sounds simple but when the play is available you just need to make it. Plain and simple. If we can scheme a bit and get our 2 tight ends the ball a lot and utilize our strong running backs along w/our regular stout defense this is a 10 win team.
Sure and as most power 5 schools only play two out of conference power 5 schools thus limiting the ability to determine how conferences stack up. I looked at the 2022 bowl games to see how good the Big 12 defenses were and here are some numbers. Kansas defense allowed Arkansas 681 yards in 3 OT, Texas Tech allowed Ole Miss 558 yards, Oklahoma allowed FSU 587 yards, Texas allowed Washington 445, KSU allowed Alabama 496, and TCU allowed Mich. 528. Talk about poor defenses.
On the flip side OSU offense only got 281 yards against the Wisc defense and Baylor only managed 230 yards against the number 1 defense in Air Force.
Big 12, besides Iowa State plays a much more wide open style. This leads to way more possessions and yes, more points. Not going to argue that Big 12 defenses are great (they're not) but their teams are built to stop the spread and speedier offenses that their teams have. Besides Ohio State and Purdue, Big Ten is still ground and pound. Way fewer possessions, which leads to less scoring. TCU racked up almost 500 yards against Michigan in the Bowl game by the way. While I think if Michigan doesn't turn the ball over they were the superior team they still had trouble w/the versatility of TCU's offense.
That dude should look around and take a look at the state of what's on twitter, etc. Maybe visit some schools. A few years back, we had teachers tell us at a large school they don't really push spelling and such because of spell check and everyone composes on something like Word or Outlook.
Right and TCU's offense showed up against Georgia to the tune of 188 yards and of course the Big 12 defense showed up again at 589 yards.
And again that team managed to beat Michigan, the Big Ten champs.
the defense is still a function of this team. Iowa plays as a team and wins as a team. only msg posters don't want to admit it.
defense thru out IA history under Fry and Kirk has played a major role in IA's wins.
msg board posters want X-Box/PlayStation numbers and until that happens they will never be happy. if they truly think that changing to the spread offense will produce these guady and worthless stats I truly feel sorry for them.
if a team racks up 600 plus yards and score 70+ ppg they won't/can't get credit for nothing more or less than 1 win or loss for that game. they don't get 1 1/2 beside their name in the standing's as Vince Lombard once stated
stats are for losers and boy was he right as this board is full of losers.
defense thru out IA history under Fry and Kirk has played a major role in IA's wins.
msg board posters want X-Box/PlayStation numbers and until that happens they will never be happy. if they truly think that changing to the spread offense will produce these guady and worthless stats I truly feel sorry for them.
if a team racks up 600 plus yards and score 70+ ppg they won't/can't get credit for nothing more or less than 1 win or loss for that game. they don't get 1 1/2 beside their name in the standing's as Vince Lombard once stated
stats are for losers and boy was he right as this board is full of losers.
Yes…. and I’ll readily admit that cuts both ways for me.
I was actually pretty good in language and punctuation and spelling when I was younger. I’ve gotten really lazy because of the way we now communicate!
I also realize I have kind of a quirky style, I write similarly to how I talk! Stream on consciousness if you will!
But he isn’t going to embarrass me about it for sure 😜 as much as he deeply wishes he could!
Considering how Michigan had played the rest of the season, that TCU game has to be considered something of an outlier, doesn't it? We're talking about a game where Michigan threw 2 pick sixes, as well as (what was it, 2 or 3?) possessions that got inside the TCU 5 and resulted in only 3 points. Including if memory serves, a controversial replay reviewed that overturned a michigan TD and then fumbled it away the next play.
IMO, Michigan came in overconfident, and made any number of mistakes...had they played that game 10 times Michigan wins 8/10 fairly comfortably. Then TCU turned around the next week having emptied their tank against Michigan and Georgia simply rolled them.
I didn't pick the game. The post that I replied to was comparing Big 12 defenses to Nebraska. Since Iowa didn't move the ball against that god-awful defense, there's no reason to think that they would have done so against Big 12 defenses.
I see plenty of tendencies and questionable adjustments coaching 9th grade football. In those cases, the head coach is usually 28 years old and football is a side gig. We don't lose to those teams. But even at the 9th grade level, most good CIML programs (Dowling, SEP, Ankeny) have less pronounced tendencies on offense than Iowa. I get the ideas of balance and establishing an identity, but unless you are far more talented than your opponent, you can't run the ball 90% of the time on 2nd and 10 and expect to pick up first downs consistently. Self-scouting is an essential part of winning football, and it's clear that Iowa often does a poor job of that on the offensive side of the ball.
That 90% stat has been wildly and soundly refuted on here many times.
That’s all the further we need to go right there!
I agree. And I stated I thought Michigan was clearly the better team but TCU made plays when it mattered and Michigan did not.
This would certainly be reason to celebrate a very good season, followed by thee PROMPT firing of Brian.If we go 12-1 I don't give a crap if the D scores all the points!
As I stated ISU played 5 defenses worse that Nebraska's god-awful defense and Iowa turned the ball over 4 times.
