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Arujau over Glory

Believe he had over 3 minutes of RT too. Attacked from the first whistle to the last. Great match from him.
So did they split this year? Thought I remembered Glory winning earlier, but could be all wrong. Only wrestle twice?
 
Yep, earlier in the cornell Princeton dual it was like 10-11 and Glory won on a last second takedown. I guess Arujau wasn't amused...lol
Their history is
2019: Vito pins Glory in the dual
2019: Glory beats Vito in the EIWA final 10-8
2020: Vito ORS
2021: COVID: Ivy sports cancelled
2022: Glory beats Vito 11-9 in the dual (no last second takedown: 11-8 with 1:45 left)
2022: Vito crushes Glory 19-6 in the EIWA final, and it wasn't that close

To another poster: Vito has held 125 for three years now: why do you think he can't hold the weight for next year? He's rail thin, not a "monster."

( it is possible he goes to 133 to give Ungar or Greg. D the 125 slot to make their team better, but he seems fine at 125. He first-period pinned Intermat #23 in his semi-final right after weigh-ins)
 
Their history is
2019: Vito pins Glory in the dual
2019: Glory beats Vito in the EIWA final 10-8
2020: Vito ORS
2021: COVID: Ivy sports cancelled
2022: Glory beats Vito 11-9 in the dual (no last second takedown: 11-8 with 1:45 left)
2022: Vito crushes Glory 19-6 in the EIWA final, and it wasn't that close

To another poster: Vito has held 125 for three years now: why do you think he can't hold the weight for next year? He's rail thin, not a "monster."

( it is possible he goes to 133 to give Ungar or Greg. D the 125 slot to make their team better, but he seems fine at 125. He first-period pinned Intermat #23 in his semi-final right after weigh-ins)
He'll go 133 bc he has a better shot of beating Fix/RBY than he does Spencer Lee
 
He'll go 133 bc he has a better shot of beating Fix/RBY than he does Spencer Lee
Yeah, the Olympic Trials runner-up is scared of people. And he went 125 this year when the world still thought Spencer Lee was going 125. Maybe you remember that get-together in Florida where Vito wrestled at 125. Same get-together where Lee, IIRC, also wrestled at 125. So if your logic actually had value, Vito would've moved up to 133 at that point. And there's this:





Before you say "oh, that was years ago," don't think that Arujau hasn't improved as much as RBY.

And before you say "oh, that's just freestyle," go watch the EIWA final in which Arujau rode Glory (ranked #2) for 3:52 and turned him at least once, and didn't give up any offensive points.
 
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Yeah, the Olympic Trials runner-up is scared of people.



Before you say "oh, that was years ago," don't think that Arujau hasn't improved as much as RBY.

And before you say "oh, that's just freestyle," go watch the EIWA final in which Arujau rode Glory (ranked #2) for 3:52 and turned him at least once, and didn't give up any offensive points.
Are you related to Vito???
 
Are you related to Vito???
Probably just a knowledgeable Hawkeye fan who read one ignorant comment too many over the weekend. Vito is a stud who I'm sure isn't afraid of anyone. In fact if you look at Spencer's matches across all styles the last 3-4 years, I think Vito scored more offensive points against him than anyone. Some Hawkeye fans bleed black and gold but are able to take off the glasses when it comes to discussing opponents.
 
I think Vito is a stud, I also believe that Vito has a better shot of beating RBY/Fix than he does Spencer Lee. I hope he and Glory both go 125 next year. Time will tell.
I actually like Vito to take out Suriano this year. I'll be in Detroit cheering for Vito. Some people forget a healthy Spencer Lee beat Suriano with ease 5-1. He also TF vito 14-4 in freestyle. Next year Spencer is going to be on mission to bonus everyone he wrestles and I believe he will do it.
 
Vito is very good and both him and Lee will be battling next year in folk and free in my eyes. If Lee is ready to go there is nobody on his level, but Vito will be #2 in free and folk.
on a side note, It will be fun watching the end of Gilman's run, unfortunately I think Vito takes him out this year so Lee will just get him after he is no longer #1
 
Probably just a knowledgeable Hawkeye fan who read one ignorant comment too many over the weekend. Vito is a stud who I'm sure isn't afraid of anyone. In fact if you look at Spencer's matches across all styles the last 3-4 years, I think Vito scored more offensive points against him than anyone. Some Hawkeye fans bleed black and gold but are able to take off the glasses when it comes to discussing opponents.
I asked because the guy has been RELENTLESS about Vito on this board for quite some time now. I say that thinking Vito is neck and neck with Suriano and behind only a healthy Spencer Lee. The guy is very good, just not someone you should be arguing at or above Spencer Fricking Lee!

With that said, he is NOT a "knowledgeable Hawkeye fan". He has clearly stated he is a big Cornell fan. Which is great. I just found it a bit entertaining that he has been so relentless, to the point I actually thought maybe he was related to or even was Vito!
 
Vito to win 125 this year.
No one beats a healthy Spencer Lee!
RBY said he is done after this year. Maybe now that is different? After he loses, I believe he leaves.

I thought both glory and Vito were done after this year with ivy not getting last year back? Guess I am wrong, and if so, guessing at least one if not both move up.
 
Yeah, the Olympic Trials runner-up is scared of people. And he went 125 this year when the world still thought Spencer Lee was going 125. Maybe you remember that get-together in Florida where Vito wrestled at 125. Same get-together where Lee, IIRC, also wrestled at 125. So if your logic actually had value, Vito would've moved up to 133 at that point. And there's this:





Before you say "oh, that was years ago," don't think that Arujau hasn't improved as much as RBY.

And before you say "oh, that's just freestyle," go watch the EIWA final in which Arujau rode Glory (ranked #2) for 3:52 and turned him at least once, and didn't give up any offensive points.
Anybody who moved down the year Spencer was clearly the most vulnerable he's ever been (you know, since he had no ACLs) doesn't get to make the "I'm tough I tried facing Spencer" argument. They smelled blood in the water and tried taking advantage of it, a la Suriano.
 
Anybody who moved down the year Spencer was clearly the most vulnerable he's ever been (you know, since he had no ACLs) doesn't get to make the "I'm tough I tried facing Spencer" argument. They smelled blood in the water and tried taking advantage of it, a la Suriano.
You know he was talking about Vito right? Not Suriano. We all know Suriano wants no part of a one legged Lee.
 
I asked because the guy has been RELENTLESS about Vito on this board for quite some time now. I say that thinking Vito is neck and neck with Suriano and behind only a healthy Spencer Lee. The guy is very good, just not someone you should be arguing at or above Spencer Fricking Lee!

With that said, he is NOT a "knowledgeable Hawkeye fan". He has clearly stated he is a big Cornell fan. Which is great. I just found it a bit entertaining that he has been so relentless, to the point I actually thought maybe he was related to or even was Vito!
My bad, I was unaware of his allegiances. I tended to agree with everything he said. I didn't think he was arguing at or above Spencer, just that Vito was above "ducking" Spencer. I'm sure Vito would've loved to get the opportunity last year. I hope Vito wins this year, that would set up an incredible circumstance for Spencer to attempt to get his fourth next year.
 
I asked because the guy has been RELENTLESS about Vito on this board for quite some time now. I say that thinking Vito is neck and neck with Suriano and behind only a healthy Spencer Lee. The guy is very good, just not someone you should be arguing at or above Spencer Fricking Lee!

With that said, he is NOT a "knowledgeable Hawkeye fan". He has clearly stated he is a big Cornell fan. Which is great. I just found it a bit entertaining that he has been so relentless, to the point I actually thought maybe he was related to or even was Vito!
He may be relentless, but he is trying to be informative and counter some of the hard headed posters who don't have a clue, just their own opinion without much factual backing.
 
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My bad, I was unaware of his allegiances. I tended to agree with everything he said. I didn't think he was arguing at or above Spencer, just that Vito was above "ducking" Spencer. I'm sure Vito would've loved to get the opportunity last year. I hope Vito wins this year, that would set up an incredible circumstance for Spencer to attempt to get his fourth next year.
It's possible to agree with someone who's favorite team is not your favorite team.

Here's what Vito said before the Florida Duals (I posted this on 12/14), before everyone "smelled blood in the water":

“In a way, if I went 133 this year, I’d almost feel like I was running away from 125,” he said. “The ultimate obstacle is Spencer [Lee]. He’s a phenomenal wrestler with an amazing understanding of the sport. I had the pleasure of stepping on the mat with him [in freestyle, a win for Lee]. People see him as a god. For the past three years, he’s been the best at the weight. I had two years off from college wrestling and I think a lot of college wrestling fans have forgotten about me. I look forward to reminding them. I want to wrestle Spencer in the finals. I want to make it my weight.”
 
You know he was talking about Vito right? Not Suriano. We all know Suriano wants no part of a one legged Lee.
I'm well aware of who he was referring to, as Vito is all he ever talks about (and Yianni sometimes).

I actually have no problem with Vito, he's been fun to watch the very limited number of times I've watched him.

My point was that you can't use the "he doesn't duck, he tried to face Spencer" argument this year because everybody with a brain knew Spencer wouldn't be at full potential and many took it as an opportunity to try and knock off a weakened Spencer.
 
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It's possible to agree with someone who's favorite team is not your favorite team.

Here's what Vito said before the Florida Duals (I posted this on 12/14), before everyone "smelled blood in the water":
Everyone smelled blood in the water when they saw Spencer's finals match in 2021 and knew he wasn't getting either ACL fixed.

As usual, Nothing Meaningful coming from your posts other than you coming across as a condescending prick who thinks Vito is the next Avenger.

Go back to cleaning that one guy's yacht before you make me root against Vito (actually I don't think that's possible because the alternatives are Suriano or Glory).
 
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As usual, Nothing Meaningful coming from your posts other than you coming across as a condescending prick who thinks Vito is the next Avenger.
I'm sorry you get that reaction. Can you point me to some of my condescending posts? And where I said Vito is the next Avenger? Thanks.

(the closest I can recall is when I opined that the Vito at the Florida Duals would have beaten the Spencer Lee at the Florida Duals, which isn't exactly controversial to anyone who watched their respective matches. Does thinking a guy is a national title contender make me a condescending prick?)
 
It's possible to agree with someone who's favorite team is not your favorite team.

Here's what Vito said before the Florida Duals (I posted this on 12/14), before everyone "smelled blood in the water":
I don’t know how anyone can say that Vito isn’t a great wrestler. On top of that he seems like a good person. I’m glad he spanked Glory, someone needed to teach that kid a lesson. I will be rooting for Vito this year.

All that said, Spencer by major once he’s back and healthy. That is a matchup that I hope we get to see.
 
He may be relentless, but he is trying to be informative and counter some of the hard headed posters who don't have a clue, just their own opinion without much factual backing.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to be insulting. I even said his being a huge Cornell fan was great. It was just about how ardent he was about Vito. I have actually ran across something similar to this a couple times in the past and the person posting was a parent 1 time and another it was the athlete himself!
 
Yeah, I wasn't trying to be insulting. I even said his being a huge Cornell fan was great. It was just about how ardent he was about Vito. I have actually ran across something similar to this a couple times in the past and the person posting was a parent 1 time and another it was the athlete himself!
Neither. Cornell '80.

With all the recent success Cornell has had, they are no Iowa (or that other school That Shall Not Be Named). So when they have a truly elite wrestler like Vito, I enjoy discussing him, and will get a bit defensive when some say how Spencer Lee will just crush him. Maybe he will, and maybe he won't. Or they say that he's going to avoid him and go to 133 next year, when that's just not going to happen for that reason.

I've had nothing bad to say about any Iowa wrestler (with the exception of ADS, which is understandable given his attempt to injure Chaz Tucker years ago) or their program, yet someone here called me a condescending prick. If you all just want to have your echo chamber, maybe you should just ban anyone who says anything supportive of a non-Iowa wrestler who could challenge an Iowa wrestler, or who might bring some insight into another program and their wrestlers.

Your house, your rules.
 
Neither. Cornell '80.

With all the recent success Cornell has had, they are no Iowa (or that other school That Shall Not Be Named). So when they have a truly elite wrestler like Vito, I enjoy discussing him, and will get a bit defensive when some say how Spencer Lee will just crush him. Maybe he will, and maybe he won't. Or they say that he's going to avoid him and go to 133 next year, when that's just not going to happen for that reason.

I've had nothing bad to say about any Iowa wrestler (with the exception of ADS, which is understandable given his attempt to injure Chaz Tucker years ago) or their program, yet someone here called me a condescending prick. If you all just want to have your echo chamber, maybe you should just ban anyone who says anything supportive of a non-Iowa wrestler who could challenge an Iowa wrestler, or who might bring some insight into another program and their wrestlers.

Your house, your rules.
Hey, I respect your opinion. You do realize my handle is MSU158, right? I mean they all know I am MSU, first and foremost and have shown little to no issue with that. Granted, MSU hasn't really had much at ANY weight to challenge Iowa in quite some time. Even Foley and Caffey have had NO luck!

You just have to understand, when you are calling for your guy to beat possibly Iowa's best wrestler of all time, you are going to catch a ton of flack for it on a Hawkeye dedicated board. If you can't see that and be ready for it, THAT would be the only reason you shouldn't post here.

Otherwise, stay and have fun. This board actually benefits from knowledgeable fans of other programs as long as they don't denigrate Iowa in the process!
 
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Yeah, I wasn't trying to be insulting. I even said his being a huge Cornell fan was great. It was just about how ardent he was about Vito. I have actually ran across something similar to this a couple times in the past and the person posting was a parent 1 time and another it was the athlete himself!
I knew you weren't being insulting. Not at all. Just added my point of view about his posts.
 
Neither. Cornell '80.

With all the recent success Cornell has had, they are no Iowa (or that other school That Shall Not Be Named). So when they have a truly elite wrestler like Vito, I enjoy discussing him, and will get a bit defensive when some say how Spencer Lee will just crush him. Maybe he will, and maybe he won't. Or they say that he's going to avoid him and go to 133 next year, when that's just not going to happen for that reason.

I've had nothing bad to say about any Iowa wrestler (with the exception of ADS, which is understandable given his attempt to injure Chaz Tucker years ago) or their program, yet someone here called me a condescending prick. If you all just want to have your echo chamber, maybe you should just ban anyone who says anything supportive of a non-Iowa wrestler who could challenge an Iowa wrestler, or who might bring some insight into another program and their wrestlers.

Your house, your rules.
You generally make sane, relevant, factual posts. That sets off some of the crazies for some reason. You have to learn to ignore that kind of posting from those who don't know how to act like an adult and have a discussion. The guy calling you names for no reason could be a 13 year old kid. Or just someone who acts likes one. Don't go down to their level.

And FYI...........

our house has no rules......... ;)
 
Rooting for Vito is very easy when he isn’t facing a Hawkeye. If Drake can’t be on top of the podium this year, Vito is a no brainer.
This nails it and Vito vs. Nicky Push-ups will be a great finals (my prediction of the 125 finals) and I said it earlier, Vito is your 125 champ this year.
 
Yeah, the Olympic Trials runner-up is scared of people. And he went 125 this year when the world still thought Spencer Lee was going 125. Maybe you remember that get-together in Florida where Vito wrestled at 125. Same get-together where Lee, IIRC, also wrestled at 125. So if your logic actually had value, Vito would've moved up to 133 at that point. And there's this:





Before you say "oh, that was years ago," don't think that Arujau hasn't improved as much as RBY.

And before you say "oh, that's just freestyle," go watch the EIWA final in which Arujau rode Glory (ranked #2) for 3:52 and turned him at least once, and didn't give up any offensive points.
Vito is as good as it gets but he isn’t beating a healthy Spencer either way. Rby is not Spencer. And Spencer hasn’t been healthy since he has been in campus. Next year will say a lot!!!
 
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