You don’t seem to grasp the difference between sex and gender. They are not interchangeable.
Autism Rates Per Year (ASD)
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You don’t seem to grasp the difference between sex and gender. They are not interchangeable.
If history has taught us anything, it's that far more children die when they are vaccinated than when they are not.
It's not just the autism.
Torch found that two-thirds of babies who had died from SIDS had been vaccinated against DPT (diphtheria–pertussis–tetanus toxoid) prior to death. Of these, 6.5% died within 12 hours of vaccination; 13% within 24 hours; 26% within 3 days; and 37%, 61%, and 70% within 1, 2, and 3 weeks, respectively. Torch also found that unvaccinated babies who died of SIDS did so most often in the fall or winter while vaccinated babies died most often at 2 and 4 months—the same ages when initial doses of DPT were given to infants. He concluded that DPT “may be a generally unrecognized major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunization may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for re-evaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study.”25 Walker et al. found “the SIDS mortality rate in the period zero to three days following DPT to be 7.3 times that in the period beginning 30 days after immunization.”26 Fine and Chen reported that babies died at a rate nearly eight times greater than normal within 3 days after getting a DPT vaccination.27
Ottaviani et al. documented the case of a 3-month-old infant who died suddenly and unexpectedly shortly after being given six vaccines in a single shot: “Examination of the brainstem on serial sections revealed bilateral hypoplasia of the arcuate nucleus. The cardiac conduction system presented persistent fetal dispersion and resorptive degeneration. This case offers a unique insight into the possible role of hexavalent vaccine in triggering a lethal outcome in a vulnerable baby.” Without a full necropsy study in the case of sudden, unexpected infant death, at least some cases linked to vaccination are likely to go undetected.28
Pretty crappy correlations in your studies there.
Correlation (esp. poor ones) do not equal causation.
What's particularly sad, is that our Resident Anti-Vax crowd cannot even take the holidays off to enjoy time with friends and family.
They continue to post, day in/day out the same nonsense.
Must live some pretty worthless, pathetic lives to have nothing better to do over the Christmas/NY's season....
They continue to post, day in/day out the same nonsense.
Must live some pretty worthless, pathetic lives to have nothing better to do over the Christmas/NY's season....
Not getting kids vaccinated works great.
As long as it isn’t popular. Once it’s popular kids come done with shit by catching it from other non vaxers.
Did you get fired when you got your DUI in October? You’ve been really an avoiding that question.
What you are claiming was taken out of context.
Here is his statement:
Statement from Andrew W. Zimmerman, MD, Professor of Pediatrics and
Neurology, University of Massachusetts Medical School, January 15, 2018
Some media reports have mischaracterized an affidavit I provided in September 2018
regarding my opinion about the complex interplay of inflammation, mitochondrial
disorders and the risk of developmental regression in children with autism, expressed in
the context of the US Department of Health and Human Services Omnibus Autism
Proceedings in 2007.
As a pediatric neurologist and member of the American Medical Association, the
American Academy of Pediatrics, the Child Neurology Society, the American Academy
of Neurology and the American Neurological Association, I strongly support the
importance of vaccines for all children. I have spoken with many parents of children with
ASD over the years who feel strongly that their children developed ASD due to vaccines
and I have vigorously defended the importance of vaccines as the best way to prevent
many serious diseases.
I have practiced pediatric neurology for 42 years, recently retiring from clinical
practice. A primary interest of mine has been autism spectrum disorder, or ASD, for 33
years, especially with respect to its possible causes and treatments. In my research, I
have investigated immune aspects of autism, such as neuroinflammation and maternal
antibodies. In 2006, I co-authored a case report of a child who developed ASD following
immunizations and was found to have a cellular energy (mitochondrial) disorder.
Subsequently, other publications by myself, by colleagues and by researchers at other
institutions supported the concept that underlying mitochondrial abnormalities in some
children may contribute to their development of ASD, especially in those who undergo
regression, or loss of skills following normal development.
In 2007, I wrote an affidavit for the US Department of Justice, in which I stated my
opinion at that time, based on the 2004 Institute of Medicine (IOM) report,
"Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism," that there was no scientific
evidence that vaccines cause autism. I was prepared to testify to that effect at the
Omnibus Autism Proceeding (OAP).
Three days before I was scheduled to testify, I spoke with DOJ attorneys about my
revised opinion, that there may be a subset of children who are at risk for regression if
they have underlying mitochondrial dysfunction and are simultaneously exposed to
factors that stress their mitochondrial reserve (which is critical for the developing brain).
Such factors might include infections, as well as metabolic and immune factors, and
vaccines.
I was subsequently asked by the DOJ not to testify.
In the years since 2007, I was asked to testify in federal vaccine or civil courts on behalf
of several children who had similar histories of developmental regression and ASD
following immunizations and were later found to have mitochondrial disorders.
During one of these cases, I learned that my original affidavit, based on the 2004 IOM
report, had been used in court without the modification I refer to above - that in my
opinion, there may be a subset of children who are at risk for regression if they have
underlying mitochondrial dysfunction and are simultaneously exposed to factors that
stress their mitochondrial reserve (which is critical for the developing brain). Such
factors might include infections, as well as metabolic and immune factors, and vaccines.
I was asked by Mr. Rolf Hazlehurst and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to write a subsequent
affidavit (9/7/18) regarding my recall of events in 2007.
I have sought in my research to investigate signs of mitochondrial dysfunction in
children with ASD and am currently conducting research into methods of identifying
reliable signs of mitochondrial dysfunction in children with ASD.
This is an important question that has been raised in many publications in recent years.
My hope for the future is that, through research, we will eventually be able to identify the
causes of regression and find the means to identify children early who are at risk and
prevent the development of ASD.
So, no he doesn’t say that vaccines cause Autism. What he did say is that for a very small subset of children with mitochondrial disorders that any addition stress MIGHT lead to Autism Spectrum Disorder. He also clearly states that he recommends vaccines to all children.
But it would be better for the child to have autism then be dead from a preventable disease.
FALSE
Autism has been linked, conclusively, to early childhood infections.
Something vaccines PROTECT AGAINST.
“…for a very small subset of children with mitochondrial disorders that any additional stress MIGHT lead to Autism Spectrum Disorder.”
Since vaccinations are most certainly in the category of ‘additional stress’ the only logical approach to childhood vaccines is to either A) test for mitochondrial defects BEFORE injections or B) eliminate childhood vaccine ALL mandates.
Otherwise you are subjecting hundreds of thousands of infants and children to either unnecessary risk or risk imposed on them and their parents via coercion.
How many American children do you think get vaccinated each year without testing for mitochondrial defects? It’s in the millions.
I took a very small % of those millions to come up with my estimate.
Further recognition of a spectrum of autism.
I think in 2000 they might just say "this kid isn't socially adjusted/doesn't have social skills" where today that kid is "on the spectrum."
I had someone tell me their kid was on the spectrum once and I've never noticed anything odd about the kid.
It used to be there had to be something pretty obviously "off" about a kid before they were considered autistic.
It might be somewhat attributable to societal differences, but I'm guessing it's more just an evolving/developing understanding of mental health issues.
I think in 2000 they might just say "this kid isn't socially adjusted/doesn't have social skills" where today that kid is "on the spectrum."
I had someone tell me their kid was on the spectrum once and I've never noticed anything odd about the kid.
It used to be there had to be something pretty obviously "off" about a kid before they were considered autistic.
It might be somewhat attributable to societal differences, but I'm guessing it's more just an evolving/developing understanding of mental health issues.
Meanwhile, a CLEAR correlation has been found between actual childhood infections, and autism.
No such correlation has ever been identified from vaccinations.
Kind of odd how autism rates started to skyrocket approximately one generation after childhood vaccines became a common practice; even though, according to your warped infections = autism theory, that should have happened hundreds of years earlier.
Almost as believable a claim as saying measles wipes your immune system clean.
This. Those numbers don't necessarily mean a higher prevalence of autism. It could mean we have greatly expanded the defintion and scope of autism to include people it didn't before. It's probably some of both though.
“Most autoimmune diseases are being diagnosed in increasing numbers ranging from 3 to 12 percent annually across the globe.”
www.scientificamerican.com
Autoimmunity Has Reached Epidemic Levels. We Need Urgent Action to Address It
Environment and lifestyle changes have increased the prevalence of autoimmune diseases. If we want to address this epidemic, let’s start acting like it
I have read this several times and know exactly what it says. I took nothing out of context. What it says is we have an expert saying that vaccines CAN cause autism.
Joe's all about protecting the few immunocompromised by mandating everyone get vaccinated but would rather sweep these kids under the rug and look the other way.
Why would it take "one generation"? Why not "immediately"?
Oh, right, because DIAGNOSIS was what triggered the jump, not vaccines.
No; I'm all about protecting kids from exceedingly high mortality rates before vaccines were around.
Absent any actual evidence they cause it.
Meanwhile, there is CLEAR evidence that infections cause/trigger it. Infections that vaccines will PREVENT
Because not everyone fell for the Pharma fairytale all at once.
They’ve been vaccinating the hell out of Americans for >30 years now. If you could actually prevent disease via injection we’d be the healthiest country on earth instead of the sickest.
Follow the money.
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I know why that is: Disinformation campaigns pushed by folks like YOU
Fvcking facts. I have a friend that went down that rabbit hole, she's a lost cause now
This is true. Most anti-vaxxers are really former-vaxxers.
And there’s a reason they’re no longer drinking the KoolAid.
☠️ 💉’s
Because they were conned by bullshit websites like what you guys post all the time. None of my friends that are now antivaxxers are educated...I don't think that's a coincidence
No. It’s because either they or their loved ones have suffered severe side effects.
And what are these ‘bullshit websites’ you’re referring to? The last one I linked in this thread was from Scientific American, though I prefer to link ones like this…from pubmed. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23992328/
What do you ever post besides profanity laced insults?
Lmao...I went read the actual paper, there's one word pertaining to this thread that's not there
Another word that's plainly overlooked by the antivaxxers: "concept"
Those are very very rare.
Can't explain the #'s of people influenced by anti-vax campaigns.
And, increases in autism seem to be going up with MORE people skipping vaccinations. Almost like the infections that truly cause/trigger autism become more and more common as fewer kids get vaccines...
So you glanced through the abstract and didn’t notice the phrase ‘and others’ (referring to autoimmune diseases) nor did you read the full study where they cited another study which showed a link between maternal RA and autism in the offspring?
No need to answer that was sort of a rhetorical question.
No, I found the actual paper....it's not that hard
Nobody does disinformation campaigns like the government health authorities. We just discussed above how vaccines can at least SOMETIMES cause autism, yet CDC still says "Vaccines do not cause autism". Then you actually click on their links to follow the rabbit hole that is supposed to back up that assertion and the links do NOT back it up....at all. And, as we've discussed here several times, you cannot say that vaccines do not cause autism.
Yep, disinformation at it's finest!
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