Ayo's triple double against Minnesota

[Franisdaman]

I seem to remember the Illinois coaches going bat shit crazy on Fran, because Joe W dunked a outlet pass when they were full court pressing us with like 10 seconds to go in a game we had a double digit lead in? So whatever F--- the Illini and Underwood and the horse they rode in on......

Fran pulled the team & they didn't shake hands, IIRC

 

[IlliniHoops91]

FranDaMan, I have nothing against you. I think you are a great contributor to this entire board, far beyond Illini discussions. I do think it's beneath you to try to negatively recruit, so to speak, in a serious way. Just take your info to the NCAA if you have any. I don't like Iowa, but I don't hate Iowa fans. I separate the two. The states of Illinois are Iowa are nearly the same thing when viewed from space.

 

[BBHawk]

So now national broadcasters and Underwood are involved in a “sleazy” conspiracy to rob Garza of POY?

LOL

 

[Raptorpeeps]

You should read up on Ok State and the Adidas scandal.

and then tell me that control freak Brad Underwood had no idea what was going on

what am I missing?

maybe you should know what you’re talking about because you’re embarrassing yourself.

what benefit would Underwood have received under the kickback scheme? Why would he have to know about it? Given the facts of the scheme, it’s much more likely that the assistant would keep it a secret.

 

[BBHawk]

Fran pulled the team & they didn't shake hands, IIRC

Because the IL bench had to restrain one of their coaches. Apparently he took Weezy's dunk personally. LOL!

Not a classy bunch.

BTW, Underwood attempted to apologize later for it.

 

[IlliniHoops91]

* After Ayo barely got that triple double, the Illini immediately tweeted out the triple double accomplishment.

* Then the national media immediately brought up this triple double in trying to make a case for Ayo vs Luka.

🤣 Honestly FranDaMan, I like you. But I can't stop laughing at this conspiracy of yours with the triple double. It's all falling into place.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

🤣 Honestly FranDaMan, I like you. But I can't stop laughing at this conspiracy of yours with the triple double. It's all falling into place.

Underwood calculated, maaaan!

The Illini tweeted it, maaann!

The media reported it, maaaan!!!

adidas and OK St, maaaann!!!

No integrity, maaan!

lol

watergate pales in comparison.

 

[Franisdaman]

FranDaMan, I have nothing against you. I think you are a great contributor to this entire board, far beyond Illini discussions. I do think it's beneath you to try to negatively recruit, so to speak, in a serious way. Just take your info to the NCAA if you have any. I don't like Iowa, but I don't hate Iowa fans. I separate the two. The states of Illinois are Iowa are nearly the same thing when viewed from space.

All I am saying is that getting that triple double was all calculated in order to try to build a BETTER CASE for Ayo vs Luka.

And you know that head coaches are control freaks so please don't tell me that all of the Head Coaches tied to the Adidas scandal (Bill Self, Sean Miller, Bruce Pearl, and Brad Underwood) had no idea what was going on in their program.

 

[mtown66]

Last thing: Ayo made his last shot with 8:30 left in the game. He got his last rebound with 2:14 left. Clearly he was in there to get the rebounds.

Exactly, and Underwood kept him in there for 32 minutes, until there was just 2:14 seconds left in the game and he would have left him in there until the final horn if need be for him to get that 10th rebound. The fact that he was only concentrating on getting rebounds rather than scoring and making assists really proves my point. Thanks for playing loser.

 

[Franisdaman]

Because the IL bench had to restrain one of their coaches. Apparently he took Weezy's dunk personally. LOL!

Not a classy bunch.

BTW, Underwood attempted to apologize later for it.

oh thats right! that ILLINI assistant got in Fran's face; Fran's says "f this," and turned the other way and make the entire team head to the locker room w/out shaking hands

 

[IlliniHoops91]

Do you have an excuses for Ayo's playing until the game was almost over to pad his stats, or not. That is what this thread is about. Otherwise STFU because I don't care what you think.

I have no excuses that Ayo got 10 rebounds in this game. I think it's a good thing. Maybe Minnesota should box out or something.

 

[Franisdaman]

what am I missing?

what benefit would Underwood have received under the kickback scheme? Why would he have to know about it? Given the facts of the scheme, it’s much more likely that the assistant would keep it a secret.

What are you missing? Where do I start?

maybe you should know a little bit about what you’re talking about before you post nonsense because you’re embarrassing yourself.

 

[Franisdaman]

🤣 Honestly FranDaMan, I like you. But I can't stop laughing at this conspiracy of yours with the triple double. It's all falling into place.

I am laughing at you for using the word "conspiracy."

good grief.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

All I am saying is that getting that triple double was all calculated in order to try to build a BETTER CASE for Ayo vs Luka.

And you know that head coaches are control freaks so please don't tell me that all of the Head Coaches tied to the Adidas scandal (Bill Self, Sean Miller, Bruce Pearl, and Brad Underwood) had no idea what was going on in their program.

You really need to know what you’re talking about before you start slinging accusations around. It was never alleged that ok st was getting players for $ or anything like that. The issue was the assistant getting kickbacks from a financial consultant for pushing ok state players to him. That’s it. So AGAIN, I ask you? How would Underwood benefit from that? Why would he have to know? It doesn’t make any sense and frankly it’s absolutely pathetic to be brining it up because he’s trying to help one of his players get accolades. It’s just ridiculous. You’re ridiculous.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

What are you missing? Where do I start?

maybe you should know a little bit about what you’re talking about before you post nonsense because you’re embarrassing yourself.

Start at the beginning and answer my questions because it’s obvious that you don’t know what the hell your talking about.

lol

 

[Raptorpeeps]

All I am saying is that getting that triple double was all calculated in order to try to build a BETTER CASE for Ayo vs Luka.

How is this a bad thing or otherwise indicative of a lack of integrity or “stupid”?

lol

you sound like a child. Get a grip dude.

 

[Franisdaman]

You really need to know what you’re talking about before you start slinging accusations around. It was never alleged that ok st was getting players for $ or anything like that. The issue was the assistant getting kickbacks from a financial consultant for pushing ok state players to him. That’s it. So AGAIN, I ask you? How would Underwood benefit from that? Why would he have to know? It doesn’t make any sense and frankly it’s absolutely pathetic to be brining it up because he’s trying to help one of his players get accolades. It’s just ridiculous. You’re ridiculous.

You bring nothing to this conversation. You are clearly ignorant on everything.

You're beyond ridiculous and a complete embarrassment.

 

[Franisdaman]

How is this a bad thing or otherwise indicative of a lack of integrity or “stupid”?

Wow. you sound like a child. Get a grip dude.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

You bring nothing to this conversation. You are clearly ignorant on everything.

You're beyond ridiculous and a complete embarrassment.

lol

you have no idea what the scandal was about at ok state. I have presented the facts. You have presented nothing but insults and bluster.

go ahead, man. Educate me. What did I leave out?

lol

pathetic.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

It was calculated and .... sputter sputter STUPID, maaannnn!!!!

lol

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Wow. you sound like a child. Get a grip dude.

How is a coach making a case for one of his players a bad thing? How is it “stupid”? How does it show a lack of integrity?

the fact that you can’t answer the question doesn’t make me sound like a child.

hahaha

 

[Franisdaman]

lol

you have no idea what the scandal was about at ok state. I have presented the facts. You have presented nothing but insults and bluster.

go ahead, man. Educate me. What did I leave out?

lol

pathetic.

You are ignorant because you have no idea what the scandal was about at ok state.

Pathetic.

you have presented nothing but garbage

As I stated before, read up on the Adidas scandal & the programs involved and be sure to note who left in hand cuffs and got charged with crimes and who (the control freaks) did not.

 

[Franisdaman]

It was calculated and .... sputter sputter STUPID, maaannnn!!!!

lol

more garbage

you should change your avatar to a garbage can.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

more garbage

you should change your avatar to a garbage can.

A person with integrity should be able to back up the crap they spew or stop spewing it.

but you can’t and you won’t.

sad

 

[jonesy5960]

I just saw that there is video evidence somewhere showing Ayo slipping his defender a fiddy to fail to box out. Huge scandal in the works here.

 

[IlliniHoops91]

As I stated before, read up on the Adidas scandal & the programs involved and be sure to note who left in hand cuffs and got charged with crimes and who (the control freaks) did not.

So now the feds are in on it too? Maybe you should be sure to note "who left in handcuffs and got charged with crimes and who did not." Pretty sure that when the feds get involved, they do a thorough investigation.

 

[Franisdaman]

A person with integrity should be able to back up the crap they spew or stop spewing it.

but you can’t and you won’t.

sad

you have no integrity and are ignorant.

Pathetic and sad.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

The OP was an embarrassment but Fran made it an epic humiliation.

smh...

 

[IlliniHoops91]

All I am saying is that getting that triple double was all calculated in order to try to build a BETTER CASE for Ayo vs Luka.

Apparently it worked. Not that it was a historic achievement or something. At least Ayo didn't air ball his opportunity to make history.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

you have no integrity and are ignorant.

Pathetic and sad.

you have no integrity and are ignorant.

Pathetic and sad.

Haha

You have answered none of my questions because you can’t because you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

Pro tip: less emotion, more facts and reason. You’re less likely to make a giant horse’s ass of yourself that way.

 

[IlliniHoops91]

The OP was an embarrassment but Fran made it an epic humiliation.

smh...

I seriously can't stop laughing, but it's also getting ugly and old. I just couldn't resist hitting these softballs out of the park. I just wish I could have liked my own posts. I appreciate most Iowa fans, including FranDaMan. He fights for his team. You just can't win 'em all.

 

[Franisdaman]

So now the feds are in on it too? Maybe you should be sure to note "who left in handcuffs and got charged with crimes and who did not." Pretty sure that when the feds get involved, they do a thorough investigation.

the FBI did do a thorough investigation and the recorded phone calls show what I have stated several times above: Head coaches are control freaks and know everything that is going on in their program.

Bill Self, however, messed up a bit, as you can see in this thread. As a result, he got charged w/ 3 Level One NCAA violations:

NCAA has charged Bill Self with THREE Level 1 (most serious) Violations, alleging he was in on Adidas' Scheme

Just a reminder of the program that is favored to win this year's NCAA Tournament. Feb 26 Story from USA Today: NCAA faces potentially embarrassing scenario of under-investigation Kansas winning title Dan Wolken USA TODAY February 26, 2020 Remember, the NCAA last September delivered a Notice...

iowa.forums.rivals.com

 

[Raptorpeeps]

IT WAS ALL CALCULATED AND STUPID!!!!!!

lol

 

[Raptorpeeps]

the FBI did do a thorough investigation and the recorded phone calls show what I have stated several times above: Head coaches are control freaks and know everything that is going on in their program.

Bill Self, however, messed up a bit, as you can see in this thread. As a result, he got charged w/ 3 Level One NCAA violations:

NCAA has charged Bill Self with THREE Level 1 (most serious) Violations, alleging he was in on Adidas' Scheme

Just a reminder of the program that is favored to win this year's NCAA Tournament. Feb 26 Story from USA Today: NCAA faces potentially embarrassing scenario of under-investigation Kansas winning title Dan Wolken USA TODAY February 26, 2020 Remember, the NCAA last September delivered a Notice...

iowa.forums.rivals.com

What about Underwood?

 

[Franisdaman]

The OP was an embarrassment but Fran made it an epic humiliation.

smh...

LOL; are you always this easily defeated?

Seriously, change your avatar to a garbage can because garbage is all you seem to be able to bring

 

[Franisdaman]

Haha

You have answered none of my questions because you can’t because you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

Again, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

You are ignorant and need to read up on things before you try to comment on things.

Pro tip: less emotion, more facts and reason. You’re less likely to make a giant horse’s ass of yourself that way.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

LOL; are you always this easily defeated?

Seriously, change your avatar to a garbage can because garbage is all you seem to be able to bring

Hey. Post something about Miller and Arizona now.

lol

 

[Franisdaman]

I AM STUPID!!!!!!

CORRECT.

 

[IlliniHoops91]

Fran, you are too proud like your avatar. It's okay to lay down arms. Tomorrow is another day to root against the Illini. No hard feelings. I don't care anything about what happened at OK State. Maybe that's why Coach Underwood left the Big 12 and Self went there. The Big 12 is lax in NCAA enforcement. The Illini are not.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Again, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

You are ignorant and need to read up on things before you try to comment on things.

Pro tip: less emotion, more facts and reason. You’re less likely to make a giant horse’s ass of yourself that way.

Hey. You’re pretty good at copying and pasting my posts.

copy and paste this: it might make you look like you know what you’re talking about: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...tball/oklahoma-state-ncaa-punishment.amp.html

from the article:
Oklahoma State argued that its infractions did not rise to that level. The school pushed the case that Lamont Evans, a former assistant coach who pleaded guilty to accepting $22,000 in bribes to direct players to a financial adviser, operated as a lone wolf and did so only for personal gain — not to gain the team any competitive advantage.

And thus, the violations should not have been classified as Level 1, the most severe category.

But Larry Parkinson, who headed the committee on infractions that heard the case, said Evans violated N.C.A.A. rules that prohibit athletic department staff from receiving benefits for facilitating meetings with agents, financial advisers or their representatives.

Those are the facts. So again, for the fourth or fifth time, I ask you — how did Evans getting kickbacks from a financial advisor benefit Underwood? Why would Underwood have to know about such a scheme?

I know you won’t answer because you can’t but I just want everyone else to see how stupid you are.