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B1G Officiating

I don’t think the officiating is bad.

It wasn't terrible, but home team got some favors, which is the norm.

Dumb early fouls by Kriener and Gara REALLY hurt. Our bench is too short to withstand foul trouble.

Especially with Garza having foul trouble. Not got to beat quality teams with him on the bench.
 
The officiating wasn’t any worse than it has been for the last 5 years. It’s still pathetic throughout the college game. It’s not going to get any better and it’s tough to watch. Starting to get a bunch of TV Teddy’s in the game.
 
I have never commented on the refs before, but tonight was pretty bad, and it wasn't just the fouls that were called, but the ones that weren't. Frederick turns the ball over by stepping on the in line giving the ball back to Maryland.
What caused him to step out of bounds. A forearm shiver to the back.
Terrible officiating. The 4th foul on Garza and this play amounted to a six point and possible 8 point swing. A couple bad calls in a game can change the games outcome.
 
For the most part, I really didn’t have much problem with tonight’s game. However, it is just the inconsistency of what is and what isn’t a foul anymore. A few things that come to mind. Tonight, when cjf gets the and 1 towards the end of the game. Maryland’s guy barely even touched him. However, during the Wisconsin game, Garza was straight up but raped by 4 badgers every time he got the ball down low. No call. Head scratcher to say the least.

You can go on and on, but what’s the point?
 
Was not a poorly officiated game but I’ve been noticing they sure have given up calling the flop after seeing it called numerous times in games earlier in the season.

Yeah,.. I'm starting to see more and more flopping again as the refs appear to be reluctant to make the call...
 
Yeah,.. I'm starting to see more and more flopping again as the refs appear to be reluctant to make the call...
Near the end of the Wisky gamw Ruevers has 4 fouls, Garza gets the ball in good position, make a move and Ruevers uses his arms like a blender to try and knock the ball loose in a kind of extened skirmish and there was clearly a foul , ref swallows the whistle and one of the guards comes down and really doesn't do much at all and he rings him up for the foul.
We wouldn't want to knock their big man out of the game so find the scapegoat.
 
I didnt see much of the game, but I thought the "charge" on Garza was a joke. In the NBA there would have been a technical for the flop. Wish the NCAA would take the same course of action.
 
The double foul was just stupid. While that exchange between the 2 players didn't warrant it, blow the whistle, tell them to tone it down and the next time it's a double foul.
Maybe something had been said to them prior to that, but still, what they were doing at that moment did NOT warrant a call.

Since someone mentioned tech reffing, how about a camera above the backboards and a sideline official watching activity in the lane? The inconsistency is a problem to be sure, but it's still WAY better than whenever I watch the gals play. That's like junior-high officiating.
 
I didnt see much of the game, but I thought the "charge" on Garza was a joke. In the NBA there would have been a technical for the flop. Wish the NCAA would take the same course of action.


The flop is something that can be directly addressed and should be. If it’s not, the problem will continue to grow. Replay can be used. The foul on Garza involved a lot of acting. I don’t like posting much on officials. They have a hard enough job. Addressing the flop needs to be continued focus or message sent from B1G and head of officials not just the game officials. Could teams be warned in heinseight for flopping plays? Yeah, it’s like water under the bridge a little bit. At least they have been called out through.
 
if cars can use sensors to drive, we can figure out how to scan an area in 3 dimensions and write software to computerize foul calls.
I find it somewhat amazing that even in 2020, people still don’t understand the reality of disruptive technology.

“Players would never wear sensors all over their bodies. They’d be too bulky.”

1. What if they’re not bulky? What if they’re almost invisible?
2. What if you don’t even need sensors?

Of course it will be possible to automate all governance of sporting events someday. The only question will be whether or not it makes sense to do so. If there continue to be millions of stakeholders with vested interest in the outcome of those events and billions of dollars riding on getting the outcome right, I say it happens.

I think someday people will think it is absolutely crazy there was a time when human beings spent ten minutes analyzing and reanalyzing digital data to reach a decision it could have taken a computer microseconds to make...
 
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I didnt see much of the game, but I thought the "charge" on Garza was a joke. In the NBA there would have been a technical for the flop. Wish the NCAA would take the same course of action.

The NCAA does,.. the officials don't...
 
The fouls especially the double foul was horrible.

the nation wanted to see two top centers go at it. Not a foul fest.

good game anyways

The moving screens called on Smith and Garza and the double foul on Smith and Garza were a joke. As was Garza's 4th when he was posting up on Ayala. Would really prefer in a game like that the refs let Smith and Garza play. If they commit an obvious foul defending or rebounding, okay. But the moving screens that didn't impact the game at all were ridiculous. Just warn them when they do it to stay stationary and if they don't you'll call a foul.
 
We are #2 in the Big 10 in free throws attempted and only #4 in personal fouls per game, not sure we're in a position to be complaining about fouls...
Hawks play a lot of zone defense and score a lot in the paint. Thus fewer defensive fouls and more offensive fouls.
 
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The moving screens called on Smith and Garza and the double foul on Smith and Garza were a joke. As was Garza's 4th when he was posting up on Ayala. Would really prefer in a game like that the refs let Smith and Garza play. If they commit an obvious foul defending or rebounding, okay. But the moving screens that didn't impact the game at all were ridiculous. Just warn them when they do it to stay stationary and if they don't you'll call a foul.

If they want to get moving screens out of the game, fine, but they should be consistent with the calls. There were moving screens all night long, but it seems like the refs call the slightest of movement screens but let the much more egregious ones go. I don’t get it.
 
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I agree with this. We got the short end of the stick against Mary, no doubt, but I thought we definitely got the better of the calls in all 3 of those tough home games.

I think we shot more ft’s in each of those games than the opponent & a lot more in the Mich game if I remember correctly.
Do you think the style of play may impact this statistic?
 
I find it somewhat amazing that even in 2020, people still don’t understand the reality of disruptive technology.

“Players would never wear sensors all over their bodies. They’d be too bulky.”

1. What if they’re not bulky? What if they’re almost invisible?
2. What if you don’t even need sensors?

Of course it will be possible to automate all governance of sporting events someday. The only question will be whether or not it makes sense to do so. If there continue to be millions of stakeholders with vested interest in the outcome of those events and billions of dollars riding on getting the outcome right, I say it happens.

I think someday people will think it is absolutely crazy there was a time when human beings spent ten minutes analyzing and reanalyzing digital data to reach a decision it could have taken a computer microseconds to make...
Whether you like it or not, there will come a day when people will wonder that technology wasn’t used in making calls. As much as I dislike home court calls that help decide games, I dislike more the extremely physical fouls that aren’t called.
 
Do you think the style of play may impact this statistic?
yes...our play is very deep post dependent...Garza is a beast and he's big which makes him very difficult to officiate..especially when he's getting double teamed...his game is to make contact with the defender to get leverage...if a defender is in LGP(legal guarding position) or walled up they are allowed to jump in their vertical cylinders and just because Garza jumps into that and makes heavy contact doesn't warrant a foul...it happens on nearly every post catch he makes
 
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