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Barack Obama apparently hates Ohio

Don't come crying to me when Obama's decision to kowtow to a couple hundred Koyukons costs Democrats the state of Ohio (and consequently the general election) in 2016.

Deal. I agree that if the election is so close that the 146 Ohio residents who are direct descendants of President McKinley decide that this is such a slap in the face to have a mountain in another state re-named Denali after a 40 year wait that they switch their vote to Rubio from Clinton and, as a result, the democrats lose Ohio -- and thus the election -- I will refrain from crying to you.
 
We were there in June (2003) and could not see the mountain. Were told few see it in the summer. Could you see it?

Nope. It was rainy/snowy and we made it to mile marker 65 or so before turning back. Our driver said the same thing ("about a 15% chance of seeing it").
 
1. It's not being "renamed" anything. It was Denali long before Europeans landed on the continent.

2. It wasn't named McKinley because he was shot, a prospector started calling it McKinley because he supported McKinley's presidential bid.

3. If Ohio is pissed that an Alaskan mountain is having its original name restored, they can rename Campbell Hill as McKinley Hill. (That's the highest point in Ohio at 1,550 feet.)
 
Deal. I agree that if the election is so close that the 146 Ohio residents who are direct descendants of President McKinley decide that this is such a slap in the face to have a mountain in another state re-named Denali after a 40 year wait that they switch their vote to Rubio from Clinton and, as a result, the democrats lose Ohio -- and thus the election -- I will refrain from crying to you.
Wait...you have to be a direct descendant of a former President in order to be proud of him? There are 11.6 million people in Ohio and we're all proud of our former Presidents, not just McKinley. Alaska has less than a million people. I'm pretty sure we can kick their ass if it comes to that.
 
I really HOPE the OP was writing as a parody. Otherwise it sounds like the ranting of a petty cretin. He did the right thing AND he sided with the citizens of a predominantly Republican state over a "swing" state that has voted for him. The congressman who is butt-hurt over this is the King of Crybabies.
 
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Republicans sure are running out of things to complain about these days. And good for Obama. Alaska has been petitioning to remove the McKinley name since 1975. Seems to me that if Alaska wants a name change, they should have one.

My oldest brother worked for the NPS for 35 years starting in 1972 and spent much time in Alaska as National Wilderness Coordinator. His comment about the change..."about time...should have been done long before this as many have called it Denali for a long while."

And some of the crap the Alaskan politicians have tried to do to Denali over the years is insane...like a "covered theme park" rather than a national park. Again, my brother conducted the hearing where this actually proposed, I believe by Walter Hickel.
 
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Wait...you have to be a direct descendant of a former President in order to be proud of him? There are 11.6 million people in Ohio and we're all proud of our former Presidents, not just McKinley. Alaska has less than a million people. I'm pretty sure we can kick their ass if it comes to that.

I just don't think that anyone other a direct descendant would care enough to vote against a nominee from a party because another member of the same party -- when he was president -- changed the name of a mountain in another state.

Perhaps I have misjudged the fact that our 25th President is apparently beloved in the State of Ohio.

You're kidding, right ... I can see the typical Ohio voter -- in the polling booth -- election day, deciding between nominees: screw the democrats, I really liked that name of a mountain in a state I have never visited. Rubio it is!

 
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Some cynics might call this a meaningless, narcissistic gesture by our President's intended only to highlight his unsurpassed virtue. But really, think about it, isn't it about time we made it right with the Indians and called it square.


The "Redskin Range"?
 
If you're talking about the Cree tribe, than most of them have since moved down and share a reservation in Montana with the Chippewa. So they aren't citizens of Canada any longer. Not to mention there are close to 4,000 lakes in the NW provinces of Canada (some with their aboriginal origin still in place today). So I'm failing to see how this is a good comparison to ONE mountain in a state where most of the natives still live today.

Did you know they also named a lake after Johnathon Towes of NHL fame last summer too? Those crazy Canucks love them some NHL.
There are quite a number of Cree in the Lynn Lake Mb area so this notion that they have all moved south is completely ridiculous.
 
Here's a better question. What support is there for Ohio to tell Alaska what to do?

I didn't say there was. Although, I suppose if it is a Federal Park then we all should have a say.

You said "Alaskan's" want it. I was asking how you came to that conclusion. Has there been a referendum?
 
Clearly he is doing this to curry favor with or to piss off (not sure) Sarah Palin.
 
There are quite a number of Cree in the Lynn Lake Mb area so this notion that they have all moved south is completely ridiculous.

Hmm. Of the 35.6 million people that make up Canada only 317,000 actually classify themselves as Cree. So that is less than 1% of the population of Canada. What were you saying about me not knowing what I'm talking about or my ridiculous post?

Maybe you should just stop for a second and realize the comparison you made was a dumb one and then maybe reflect on "lessons learned" so you can be better next time.
 
Hmm. Of the 35.6 million people that make up Canada only 317,000 actually classify themselves as Cree. So that is less than 1% of the population of Canada. What were you saying about me not knowing what I'm talking about or my ridiculous post?

Maybe you should just stop for a second and realize the comparison you made was a dumb one and then maybe reflect on "lessons learned" so you can be better next time.

The 1% always get their way in this country.

When will they be stopped.
 
Wait...you have to be a direct descendant of a former President in order to be proud of him? There are 11.6 million people in Ohio and we're all proud of our former Presidents, not just McKinley. Alaska has less than a million people. I'm pretty sure we can kick their ass if it comes to that.

LOL...you better have home field advantage.
 
Is it a state decision?

Is it a state park?

It's a federal park. Congress officially named it a Mt. McKinley in 1917 and President Wilson signed the bill. Emperor Obama, of course, who supercedes all consitutions and laws, signed an executive order naming it Denali. What's next for the Great One?
 
You're kidding, right ... I can see the typical Ohio voter -- in the polling booth -- election day, deciding between nominees: screw the democrats, I really liked that name of a mountain in a state I have never visited. Rubio it is!

Know who else never set foot in Alaska? McKinley.
 
Alaska doesn't want it named McKinley. The mountain resides in Alaska. I think we should respect their wishes.

Alaska elected Sarah Palin as its governor. Since when do you care what they want?
 
It's a federal park. Congress officially named it a Mt. McKinley in 1917 and President Wilson signed the bill. Emperor Obama, of course, who supercedes all consitutions and laws, signed an executive order naming it Denali. What's next for the Great One?
Obama will need to sign a whole bunch more EOs before he can be called the "Great One." Reagan signed nearly twice as many EOs.
 
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The 1% always get their way in this country.

When will they be stopped.

I would agree with you in this country. But we're talking about Canada.

Get yourself a new map
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President Obama's decision to rename the highest mountain in North America "Denali" has sparked an outcry from Ohio lawmakers who believe the mountain's previous namesake - former President William McKinley, a native Ohioan - was unfairly snubbed.

Rep. Bob Gibbs, R-Ohio, deemed the name change "insulting," vowing in a statement to reverse it if he can.

"Congress passed the law in 1917 establishing the name of Mount McKinley, and another act of Congress is required to make any future name changes. President McKinley is a well respected American hero who deserves to be honored and I hope my colleagues will join with me in stopping this constitutional overreach. President Obama has decided to ignore an Act of Congress in unilaterally renaming Mount McKinley in order to promote his job-killing war on energy," Gibbs fumed. "This political stunt is insulting to all Ohioans."

House Speaker John Boehner, another Ohio Republican, expressed his own displeasure with Mr. Obama's move.

"There is a reason President McKinley's name has served atop the highest peak in North America for more than 100 years, and that is because it is a testament to his great legacy," Boehner said in a statement. "I'm deeply disappointed in this decision."

Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, described the change as "another example of the president going around Congress" in a tweet. And Ohio Gov. John Kasich, a Republican presidential contender, tweeted that the president "again overstep[ped] his bounds" in renaming the mountain.

And it's not just Republicans who are angry - Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan, another Ohioan, criticized the new name as well.

"We must retain this national landmark's name in order to honor the legacy of this great American president and patriot," Ryan declared in a statement, according to Fox News.

Also illustrating that this is more a case of regional politics, rather than partisan politics, it was a Republican senator - Alaska's Lisa Murkowski - who has been pushing for the name "Denali" to better honor the traditions of Alaskan natives.

"I'd like to thank the president for working with us to achieve this significant change to show honor, respect and gratitude to the Athabascan people of Alaska," Murkowski said after the name swap.

Longtime Alaska GOP Rep. Don Young heralded the change as well:

Today, the nation recognizes what AK'ns have known for generations #Denali is rightful name 4 NAmerica's tallest mtn pic.twitter.com/WodYOkEl7D

— Rep. Don Young (@repdonyoung) August 31, 2015
The president is in Alaska to participate in the Conference on Global Leadership in the Arctic. His trip is focused, in part, on environmental issues and the danger posed by climate change.

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"There is a reason President McKinley's name has served atop the highest peak in North America for more than 100 years, and that is because it is a testament to his great legacy," Boehner said in a statement. "I'm deeply disappointed in this decision."

Actually, the only reason the name has survived this long is Ohio legislators continually blocking attempts by Alaskan legislators to restore the mountain's original name.

As I said earlier, Ohio is free to rename the highest point in Ohio after their native son.
 
Here's a better question. What support is there for Ohio to tell Alaska what to do?
Ohio isn't telling Alaska what to do. Alaska is telling the rest of the country what to do. They can call it whatever they want to call it. But if they wanted the rest of us to play along then they should have negotiated that when they were admitted to the Union. It's too late for buyer's remorse now.
 
Ohio isn't telling Alaska what to do. Alaska is telling the rest of the country what to do. They can call it whatever they want to call it. But if they wanted the rest of us to play along then they should have negotiated that when they were admitted to the Union. It's too late for buyer's remorse now.
Sure Ohio isn't telling Alaska what to do. William McKinley is only from Ohio.
 
If we gave Manhattan back to the Indians and returned California to the illegals, we could once again be the greatest nation on planet earth. Hell let's throw Chicago in. [Chicago is the Indian word "shikaakwa" which means stinky onion!!]
Obama will need to sign a whole bunch more EOs before he can be called the "Great One." Reagan signed nearly twice as many EOs.

Irrelevant. EOs are intended to facilate and implement of the law. Obama has been issuing executive orders to subvert and countermand laws enacted by Congress. The number of executive orders argument is simply a lame Democratic talking point. He has taken executive power well beyond its constitutional limit and the sooner he's gone the better.
 
If we gave Manhattan back to the Indians and returned California to the illegals, we could once again be the greatest nation on planet earth. Hell let's throw Chicago in. [Chicago is the Indian word "shikaakwa" which means stinky onion!!]


Irrelevant. EOs are intended to facilate and implement of the law. Obama has been issuing executive orders to subvert and countermand laws enacted by Congress. The number of executive orders argument is simply a lame Democratic talking point. He has taken executive power well beyond its constitutional limit and the sooner he's gone the better.
How's Boehner's lawsuit going these days?
 
How's Boehner's lawsuit going these days?

It's going. The Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit enjoined Obama immigration EO; The Supreme Court, 9-0, voided the King's NLRB recess appointments, deciding the President could not declare Congress to be in recess. Imagine a Harvard Law grad and a former constitutional law professor believing the President could declare Congress in recess. That's how power mad this guy is. He doesn't care.
 
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