Belief in God in U.S. dips to 81%, a new low

[HawkFan1298]

Your faith always comes back to Pascal's Wager. You have no faith. You are a fraudulent "believer." You should worry about your own flaws, charlatan.

No, it doesn't.

I just enjoy debating Pascal's Wager because it's not as easily refuted as you think.

Common objections to Pascal’s wager

In this post I respond to some of the common objections to Pascal’s wager, keeping each response to under 100 words!

askell.io

 

[JWolf74]

You can't do logic. The atheist body count from the 20th century is astronomical. You can dismiss it irrationally.

Your brain is clogged with beer. You are not a good person, as you claim.

The body count of holy wars over the course of history is astronomical. But don't worry, those Muslims and pagans had it coming.

There's that Christian judgement. Based on absolutely no knowledge of the person. It's a hallmark of Christianity, really. BTW-i average single digit drinks per week. Just in case you want to apologize. I'll forgive you, my son.

 

[HawkFan1298]

The body count of holy wars over the course of history is astronomical. But don't worry, those Muslims and pagans had it coming.

There's that Christian judgement. Based on absolutely no knowledge of the person. It's a hallmark of Christianity, really. BTW-i average single digit drinks per week. Just in case you want to apologize. I'll forgive you, my son.

The body count of "holy wars" doesn't surpass Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mussolini and Lenin.

And I'm glad you don't booze as much as you brag about here on HROT; for your sake.

 

[JWolf74]

I understand. I certainly have flaws.

You're also a drug addict like JWolf. You tend to not brag as much about it, though.

Pardon? It's pantoprazole. I need it so I don't have reflux all night. I don't even get a buzz. Which is crap, but what are ya gonna do?

 

[HawkFan1298]

Pardon? It's pantoprazole. I need it so I don't have reflux all night. I don't even get a buzz. Which is crap, but what are ya gonna do?

I told you the booze isn't helping you.

Mini-review: Is alcohol consumption associated with gastroesophageal reflux disease?

Gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) is one of the most common disorders with an increasing incidence and prevalence. Alcohol consumption may be a risk factor for GERD; however, the relationship remains to be fully elucidated. The results of different ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[JWolf74]

The body count of "holy wars" doesn't surpass Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mussolini and Lenin.

And I'm glad you don't booze as much as you brag about here on HROT; for your sake.

So about that apology? You must repent your sins, or you'll get to hang out with me and @THE_DEVIL

 

[General Tso]

Lol. So you listed a handful of bad people. None of whom did their evil in the name of atheism. Thanks for making my point. The number of religious people who have participated in wars and atrocities in the name of religion is still higher. I wasn't commenting on the number of victims.

They all did it in the name of atheism because they did it for themselves.

 

[HawkFan1298]

So about that apology? You must repent your sins, or you'll get to hang out with me and @THE_DEVIL

Nah.

I stand by my assessment of your character.

You're an arrogant mega douche; truly one of the worst on HROT.

 

[JWolf74]

I told you the booze isn't helping you.

Mini-review: Is alcohol consumption associated with gastroesophageal reflux disease?

Gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) is one of the most common disorders with an increasing incidence and prevalence. Alcohol consumption may be a risk factor for GERD; however, the relationship remains to be fully elucidated. The results of different ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Yep. Seem to recall a couple slides on that in med school.

 

[HawkFan1298]

They all did it in the name of atheism because they did it for themselves.

Precisely.

They were megalomaniacs: their own gods.

 

[longliveCS40]

Nah.

I stand by my assessment of your character.

You're an arrogant mega douche; truly one of the worst on HROT.

There's no greater hate than Christian love.

 

[JWolf74]

Nah.

I stand by my assessment of your character.

You're an arrogant mega douche; truly one of the worst on HROT.

I do what I can. Mainly spending the last couple pages pointing out how full of shizza you are. Christian hypocrites are so fun, but I repeat myself.

 

[HawkFan1298]

Yep. Seem to recall a couple slides on that in med school.

BTW, my Uncle is a brain surgeon at a major hospital and he doesn't remind people he's an MD every third sentence as you do.

That's just another layer of your douchiness.

 

[HawkFan1298]

There's no greater hate than Christian love.

There is a key difference here: most Christians admit they have flaws.

Most atheists think they're really good. I've never engaged with an atheist that didn't.

 

[JWolf74]

BTW, my Uncle is a brain surgeon at a major hospital and he doesn't remind people he's an MD every third sentence as you do.

That's just another layer of your douchiness.

Your uncle has a much bigger God complex than I could ever imagine. But I only base that on every interaction I've ever had with any brain surgeon ever.

 

[HawkFan1298]

Your uncle has a much bigger God complex than I could ever imagine. But I only base that on every interaction I've ever had with any brain surgeon ever.

He does general surgery, too, and he doesn't have a God complex. He's very humble.

 

[ConvenientParking]

There is a key difference here: most Christians admit they have flaws.

Most atheists think they're really good.

Most Christians are taught false humility, not that they have flaws. Big difference.

 

[JWolf74]

He does general surgery, too, and he doesn't have a God complex. He's very humble.

I guarantee you the nurses that have to call him in the middle of the night would say otherwise.

 

[HawkFan1298]

Most Christians are taught false humility, not that they have flaws. Big difference.

How are you so sure?

You gave all that up years ago.

 

[HawkFan1298]

I guarantee you the nurses that have to call him in the middle of the night would say otherwise.

I guarantee you're wrong about this and most things.

(He's not an atheist, either.)

 

[ConvenientParking]

How are you so sure?

You gave all that up years ago.

Anecdotal math. 81% of people supposedly believe in God. I would describe maybe 5% of the people I've ever met as humble. Not sure on their religion.

 

[HawkFan1298]

Anecdotal math. 81% of people supposedly believe in God. I would describe maybe 5% of the people I've ever met as humble. Not sure on their religion.

My point was, we all have flaws. Obviously.

Atheists are just much less likely to admit it.

 

[ConvenientParking]

My point was, we all have flaws. Obviously.

Atheists are just much less likely to admit it.

It's not part of the atheist religion to dwell on these things and then make a commitment to lifelong hypocrisy over them.

 

[HawkFan1298]

It's not part of the atheist religion to dwell on these things and then make a commitment to lifelong hypocrisy over them.

They don't admit they have a problem. That's my point.

Atheists think they are good.

And it's funny you called atheism a "religion."

 

[JWolf74]

I guarantee you're wrong about this and most things.

(He's not an atheist, either.)

Lol. Sure, Jan.

Good for him. Hopefully he's not an aggressive turd about it like his hypocritical nephew.

 

[HawkFan1298]

Lol. Sure, Jan.

Good for him. Hopefully he's not an aggressive turd about it like his hypocritical nephew.

I can't be a hypocrite when I gladly admit I have flaws.

But, keep claiming to be "good" yourself. I could name 10 other HROT posters that are better people than you very quickly, JWolf.

You're bottom 10. Easily.

 

[JWolf74]

I can't be a hypocrite when I gladly admit I have flaws.

But, keep claiming to be "good" yourself. I could name 10 other HROT posters that are better people than you very quickly, JWolf.

You're bottom 10. Easily.

Since you haven't met me or the others in person, you really can't. I've trolled you to my and other's enjoyment for the last couple pages. That puts me in the top 69%, easily.

 

[Urohawk]

Without any authority, atheists do what they want. They tend to be more self centered. That's proven by the social sciences.

When you're an atheist, your God is you.

Lol, who's more conceited? Two options, one is special and the other not special. You decide who is who.

1. A guy who goes around knowing he is going to die in 75 years. He accepts this finality and has the perception he is lucky to simply exist due to random chance. His entire species will be wiped out in a few million years. His home planet, a spec of dust in the scheme of the universe, just happens to spin in the habitable zone. Believes there are other rocks in the galaxy containing different alien and sentient creatures.

2. A guy who thinks on omniscient and powerful being crafted them in his image. Then that same being is going to monitor his life, taking note of good deeds and bad actions. Finally, this man will be rewarded with eternal happiness as he entered heaven because he believes he has been measured and made the mark. This trip to heaven clearly defines him as better then those who fell short and burn in hell.

"Religion teaches people to be extremely self-centered and conceited. It assures them that god cares for them individually, and it claims that the cosmos was created with them specifically in mind."- Christopher Hitchens

 

[Urohawk]

@HawkFan1298, does it bother you that atheists are more compassionate than believers? I dare say it's more Christ-like.

Atheists More Motivated by Compassion than the Faithful

Non-religious people are motivated by compassion and empathy to give charitably, while highly religious believers seem to base giving on other factors.

www.livescience.com

 

[ThorneStockton]

Nothing turns me off from religion more than reading Brian's sermon here on HORT. Wouldn't surprise me if he's net negative in terms of recruiting success. What an awful ambassador for the faiths.

 

[prlyles]

Do you literally believe in the text of the Bible?

Two people take the Bible literally, atheist and evangelicals.

 

[Red Hills Nole]

would you be more comfortable with a version of the wiccan rede meaning "An it harm no one do what ye will"

 

[BrunoMars420]

So the Uber religious duo in here have perfectly fit the stereotype I posted before. Smug D bags with no self awareness who think they are better than everyone else. Keep it up you two, you are just proving the atheists point of how douchey your types are.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

I just wish people would treat others like they would want to be treated. You can toss any flavor around that you want. Call it Karma or religion.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Churches are made up of humans. The people at Church are the entire spectrum from saints to everything else.

Don't let some crappy people at Church cause you to leave. It's like leaving school because some of the teachers were bad.

Or if you were bullied....

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Belief in God in U.S. Dips to 81%, a New Low

Eighty-one percent of U.S. adults say they believe in God, down six percentage points from 2017 and the lowest in Gallup's trend.

news.gallup.com

100% of HROT believes in me.....as they should.

 

[fsu1jreed]

So was it something you heard in church that changed your thinking? What was it ?

I suddenly realized how egocentric it was.....an omnipotent, loving God wouldn't pick one species above all other, especially not our species

 

[win4jj]

100% of HROT believes in me.....as they should.

I believe in ya kid.

 

[HawkFan1298]

@HawkFan1298, does it bother you that atheists are more compassionate than believers? I dare say it's more Christ-like.

Atheists More Motivated by Compassion than the Faithful

Non-religious people are motivated by compassion and empathy to give charitably, while highly religious believers seem to base giving on other factors.

www.livescience.com

Nah. As I've posted, atheists give about 30% to charity compared to weekly Church goers. They also volunteer less. So, we can judge them by their fruits, which aren't great.

 

[HawkFan1298]

Nothing turns me off from religion more than reading Brian's sermon here on HORT. Wouldn't surprise me if he's net negative in terms of recruiting success. What an awful ambassador for the faiths.

I'm an ex-atheist. I admit I can get aggressive because I feel like I was brainwashed by a cult of narcissists like Richard Dawkins for 8 years.

Atheists push 2 myths that I believed:

1.) "Science proves there's no God." (Even though 40% of scientists in America believe in God, according to Neil DeGrasse Tyson) as did the greatest scientist of all time, Sir Isaac Newton.)

2.) "Jesus was a myth." (Even though almost all historical scholars believe Jesus was a real person.)

If I can get out of atheism, other people can, too.