There has to be a wrong choice though.
Atheists vs. Christians. One side is wrong.
Both sides could be wrong.
Belief in God in U.S. dips to 81%, a new low
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Both sides could be wrong.
Can you imagine if the Catholic Church hadn't shot themselves in the foot with credibility with general public with the abuse scandal and the Catholic population was a little more united behind their leadership and we listened to them about Iraq:
www.usccb.org
Statement on Iraq, 2002
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Washington, D.C. November 13, 2002 As we Catholic Bishops meet here in Washington, our nation, Iraq and the worl...
So what exactly would it take to “sway “ you as you say ? Wht other source of wisdom would you accept? Some imperfect man with a bunch of human philosophy? You tell me where do you think we should get wisdom from ? I’m dying to know what source you have that’s proven to be more reliable than the Bible ?
Tell me what other book or source of information could prophecy an event 200 years in advance with pinpoint accuracy ?
I’ll wait
And what makes you think people won’t be here? You’re good at laughing at my reliable source of the scriptures but I’ve yet to see you add any real evidence or substance to this discussion . Let’s hear your superior human opinion LOL
“Prophecy an event 200 years in advance with pinpoint accuracy”
Holy Moly lmao. Yeah I am done talking about this subject with you lol. Unleash your crazy on someone else
Truth hurts don’t it?
The truth is some people don’t want to accept the Bible could be divinely inspired. It would require personal responsibility and that frightens alot of people. That’s ok . You’re not alone . We’ll agree to disagree .
One last point I want to make. You and your type come off as smug d bags. I’m cool and respect people that accept Christ and go about it without acting like you. Your type is one of the main reasons I turned atheist in the first place. If you add in all the pedophilia and death that has been caused by religion then it’s a no brainer to not be religious.
My type? The type that defends the Bible ? Lol all I’ve done is to try and provide some good information that might help you . You’ve done all you can to insult my belief in the Bible. Don’t make me out to be the bad guy . I don’t have any personal beef with you at all . But I’m as passionate at defending the Bible as you are on disproving it . Fair enough?
I believe the whole Bible to be the inspired word of God yes. It’s information and guidance has been timeless in helping change lives , and provide instruction on how to be happy . Not surprising as it only makes sense that as our Creator God would know what we need to be successful in life
Hindus and many others would say both of those are wrong.There has to be a wrong choice though.
Atheists vs. Christians. One side is wrong.
Then why do you link to modern interpretations of scripture? How do you know that people interpreting these texts today are right?
I’m totally unbiased on scripture King James is more than fine. The Bible’s timeless advise still applies . I just prefer not having to decipher things with the thous and the thy …
The people that compiled the Bible couldn’t agree on everything to put in it.
what contemporaneous writings are in the Bible?
Why are some stories ok to be in the Bible and some aren’t?
where did the weird stories of a young Jesus come from?
why does the story of jesus take so many liberties from pagan stories? To win converts? Lack of imagination?
Why do humans show up a couple billion years after the first life forms? Why did Homo sapiens win out but our other cousins went extinct?
Please look more into the history of how the Bible came to be. This would be a good start:
The Biblical Canon: Its Origin, Transmission, and Authority
https://a.co/gzhgctY
Lack of evidence is the biggest one, but there's a couple of other reasons
I’d be curious to hear them sometime . Lots of people when they suffer some kind of tragedy start to question Gods existence. You’re not alone . Hard for some people to reconcile a loving God and why he’d would allow suffering .
I stopped believing in an omnipotent God at least 2 years before I got hurt, nevermind the fact that getting put in a chair was the best thing that happened to me....even with all the shit I've had to deal with here recently
What was the reason you stopped believing ?What kind of accident did you have that put you in a wchr?
The parable of the weeds covers this I believe. The weeds are burned but I think that’s it, it doesn’t take forever.
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, "Gather the weeds first and tie them in bundles for burning, but bring the wheat into my barn." Matthew 13:30
Then Jesus left the crowds and went into the house. His disciples came to him and asked, "Explain to us the parable about the weeds in the field." He answered, "The person who sowed good seed is the Son of Man, while the field is the world. The good seed are those who belong to the kingdom, while the weeds are those who belong to the evil one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Just as weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so it will be at end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. Matthew 13:36-41
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I was sitting in church and just had a moment of clarity, best way I can put it.....was heading to Kings Island and flipped a car fracturing my spine
So was it something you heard in church that changed your thinking? What was it ?
Probably some dick posting in all bold text in a forum.
I don’t think we were ever promised that bad things wouldn’t happen
I'm an adult, so I don't believe in Santa Claus, leprechauns, or an omnipotent sky fairy. I do good things, donate to charity, and help others because of an inner drive to do those things. Not out of some fear of eternal hellfire or because they pass the plate at church on Sunday.
This thread is the perfect example of why so many people are turned off of religion. That and the child rape.
This thread is the perfect example of why so many people are turned off of religion. That and the child rape.
How good are you?
I've never engaged with an atheist that didn't think they were a really good person.
It's almost comical.
On a scale of MAGA to Mother Theresa, I'm pretty swell. There is no one more full of themselves than Christians who spend all week acting like assholes, posting in HROT religion threads, but believe they're saved because they do to church once a week and throw a $10 in the collection plate.
Uhhh wut? What event do you think the Bible predicted 200 years out?
I disagree.
I'm an ex-atheist. The atheist community is the most narcissistic group around.
They all think they're Mother Teresa times ten.
Since they're atheists, they get to make up their own morality so by their own standards, they think they're just swell.
In reality, humans are masters of self-deception.
That's because you're extremely online and born again and didn't go to Catholic school or you'd know plenty of atheists who hate themselves (as they were trained).
Serious question : where do you think your inner drive to good things to others came from?
Could it be because man was created in Gods image to display His qualities ? His love , generosity and other good things that you display?
Your hatred of child rape? Could it come from seeing injustice and a hatred for evil things like that? Just like God who hates those things as well ?
where people get lost is that most religion teaches its gods will that evil happens and that he is in control of the present world as we see it . One simple fact escapes their minds: the Bible teaches that Satan the Devil is the ruler of this world and He is responsible for the terrible suffering we are around us.(1st John 5:19) God never intended humans to suffer , and in fact has taken steps to give us a way out of the current situation humans find themselves in. Jesus preached about this kingdom when on earth . It will permanently end all the problems face…
I'd argue it's more of a cop out to believe something based on tradition and social acceptance than your own fact based research. 🤷
I only believe because of my own research and experiences.
America is not a Christian country so I definitely didn't choose to believe based on social acceptance.
Not narcissistic, just more intelligent.
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