Don't know if it's true, but I read where it can launch bots from your network to facilitate DDOS attacks.
If true, that's reason enough.
If true, that's reason enough.
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It might be able to. The best thing for china is all of the televisions, device controllers and other such tech that is low grade but easily affordable that people put on their networks. That hardware is creating quite the swarm of badness that could cause problems.Don't know if it's true, but I read where it can launch bots from your network to facilitate DDOS attacks.
If true, that's reason enough.
And before that there was Vine. I think the ban is ridiculous and I work in infosec.
My neighbor was all in on Q... Haven't heard her mention anything crazy in a while but with an election coming up I'm sure it'll start again...Conspiracy theories routinely fall apart when you put much of a thought and research into them.
People put way too much complexity into their "the government is corrupt" conspiracy theories. The government is corrupt but their corruption is pretty out in the open in the "what you gonna do about it?" sort of way. And their corruption pretty much goes along the lines of the Aliens in the Simpsons. It's a 2 party system and both parties want to be corrupt, what you gonna do about it?
For example I unfortunately know some people who believe in conspiracy theories about the government hiding microchips in an attempt to track you. These people very confidently post these conspiracy theories from their smart phone hooked up to GPS. The government isn't hiding microchips in your vaccines or your underwear to track you moron, they can do that through your smartphone, it's an undisputed fact that they can track your smartphone, and we've all paid for it from our own personal funds.
But these people believe in this stuff with little to no thought because it makes them feel good to believe they are in possession of some uber secret knowledge that most people don't know about.
Dear Baby Jesus please do not let this happen. 🤯Hilarious how both Mace and MTG voted "No". And likely only because Turd is on record as being opposed to this proposed legislation.
I guess both are hoping Noem turns down the veep selection and DJT turns to one of them?
Tim Scott is my guess, but seldom has a veep pick affected the vote.Dear Baby Jesus please do not let this happen. 🤯
I do wonder if the bipartisan vote is the result of security information not available to the great unwashed (regular citizens)??Still don’t have a clear reason.
“Concern for user data annd targeted undue influence.” But the bots and Russian troll farms are all good on Twitter? Cambridge Analytic la and Facebook?
That gets back to my argument about conflating multiple arguments. This would likely deal, to some extent, with the foreign ownership situation (though how many component parts of all these systems are also Chinese manufactured?) but if anyone arguing against TikTok sees a sale to a US tech company as a privacy win, that’s insane.The forced sale aspect doesn’t sit well with me. Bringing it in house? Eh, not like I completely trust Google, Facebook, X or those other huge companies.
Reminds me of the scene in Animal House when Otter says “They can’t do that to our pledges…only we can do that to our pledges!”
I’ve never used it. Only seen them posted here, or embedded in tweets posted here.Tik Tok's content isn't controlled by the CCP.
I’ve never used it. Only seen them posted here, or embedded in tweets posted here.
But I did have a friend tell me that in China it is videos of useful DIYs, etc. while in the States the algorithm pushes addictive, mindless pablum.
I have zero idea the veracity of the claim, and never researched it in the least, but I do wonder how you think you’d actually know if the CCP was influencing how the algorithm worked in different regions?
Many people didn’t believe our government was trying to influence content and content providers on social media, and some would rather shoot the messenger than examine the evidence that has come to light about how they have sought to manipulate public thought in these mediums.
Just remember, no bills get proposed or passed without the say so from lobbyists and donors... so whoever stands to gain the most in terms of $ and power is who's really behind this bill.
Everyone we disagree with is MAGA! Waaahhhh!
I think it's Jealousy.
Tik Tok created a pretty incredible app.
I don’t know. Reducing the already short attention span of the average American would make it even easier to influence their ‘thinking’ with 15 second propaganda clips.What's so incredible about it? Funny sped-up dance videos? Shorts? No details, just get to the point?
Seems like an app for people with very short attention spans. Not useful for anything, really.
*old man yells at cloud....
I think this will run afoul of the 1A. There is obviously a government interest here but banning the app is not a remedy narrowly tailored to accomplish the government’s interest. But we’ll see with this court. Alito may come up with a crazy new test.Will we see a government bailout for TikTok influencers?
might want to do some research on thisEveryone we disagree with is MAGA! Waaahhhh!
It empowers the president to ban websites.I think this will run afoul of the 1A. There is obviously a government interest here but banning the app is not a remedy narrowly tailored to accomplish the government’s interest. But we’ll see with this court. Alito may come up with a crazy new test.
So the president is banning tik tok? I must have missed that caveat.It empowers the president to ban websites.
How long before that power is exercised in this war or the next?
So do they get knocked down on that, but keep the foreign owned app ban?
I think the overreach was intentional, and if it goes through, then that much easier to manage ‘disinformation’.
TikTok is more the stalking horse for a much broader grant of power to the president.So the president is banning tik tok? I must have missed that caveat.
Thanks. That seems clear enough. Can someone with better googling skills than mine find out if that's still in the bill. I'm assuming it is, because that seems reasonably stated, if that's what you want to do.TikTok is more the stalking horse for a much broader grant of power to the president.
This is from the earlier bill, not sure if this language is carried over exactly it was was being voted on this weekend.
IF - only IF - they’ll loosen up and show/prove how China is using it to infiltrate and influence mindless fat girls with nose rings and pink hair it might get by as a matter of national security but then they’d also reveal how they can easily find out everything about any and all of us.I think this will run afoul of the 1A. There is obviously a government interest here but banning the app is not a remedy narrowly tailored to accomplish the government’s interest. But we’ll see with this court. Alito may come up with a crazy new test.
If you use FB there are already a lot of TT things on there, especially if you do Reels.I wonder how TikTok compares with Facebook, X, Truth Social and the like - including HROT - on quantity of hate speech and disinformation.
I don't use most of those social media, but it sounds like we're banning the silly one instead of the dangerous or nasty ones.
Our excuse can't honestly be that TikTok gathers personal information. Sure they do. So do all the others. I expect the real reason may be that TikTok doesn't share the personal information they gather with our government and our big business.
I have, it's ridiculous. Your Twitter feed has warped your mind.might want to do some research on this
I have, it's ridiculous. Your Twitter feed has warped your mind.
I think the “determined by the President” part is going to be the key.Thanks. That seems clear enough. Can someone with better googling skills than mine find out if that's still in the bill. I'm assuming it is, because that seems reasonably stated, if that's what you want to do.
I'd like to see the section that defines "foreign" (or "foreign adversary").
Is there any language in there about domestic adversaries?
I think the “determined by the President” part is going to be the key.
Seems like every year they are trying to trojan horse in something like this.
But we’ll see with this court. Alito may come up with a crazy new test.