Bittersweet
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That's the big difference. Iowa sees a co-championship as disappointment, Ohio St will be starting riots in the streets.
Dziewa was terrible today; definitely hurt Iowa in the team points. If he had wrestled reasonably well we win (unless I'm missing something).
That guy wrestled well above expectations, so I can't find much fault with his effort at this tournament - the Hawkeyes had too many guys under achieve and I would lay this at their feet, it is disappointing to not win it out right when Iowa had more than its fair share to do it.
Which meant there was room for improvement, right? Dziewa's had moments like this all season where his head's just not in the match. Unfortunately, it really cost the Hawks today.
I think I was most disappointed in Gilman, though. Sure, he took a lot of shots, but never finished any and he was clearly the superior "wrestler."
I was a little disappointed that Josh didn't fight harder. It was almost like he just gave him the tech fall. Looked too cooperative. Sure, Stieber is great, but he doesn't tech fall everyone. Josh keeps it to a major and we win Big Tens all by ourselves.
Yea your missing the fact no one even thought he would wrestle his seed.
Many guys feel bad, Gilman,Sorensen and Telford. But like I posted earlier good heavens if Kelly and Moore wrestle to there seed which was 7 we win it easy..Only getting one total point out of two weights is terrible.
So lets regroup and win Nationals which we can do if EVERYONE contributes.
This was my point, exactly. I wasn't expecting a win, but damn, just keep it reasonably close.
That being said, Gilman, Sorenson, and Telford all under-performed today. Picked a bad day to stop drinking, I guess.
Wtf, Jeva could have wrestled his best match of his life and the result would have been the same. I was expecting a pin, surprised he didn't try it, could have won them the title.
I, for one, was talking about his performance in the finals. Josh had a great tournament otherwise, and he's gotten a ton of praise for that. I was just disappointed that he didn't put up any fight at all against Stieber.
Says the omniscient one. . . .
So I'll conclude you were pretty fired up by Josh's performance in the finals.
Who said anything about Josh's finals performance being the biggest disappointment of the weekend?
Pretty tired of your schtick.
How about reading what was posted? The posts about Dziewa were obviously about his finals match -- had nothing to do with his tournament performance, which obviously drew a lot of praise from many fans. Nobody said anything about how many points Dziewa was giving up. You probably realize, however, that even .5 point would have won the tournament for Iowa.
How about paying attention before ripping on other posters as if you're all-knowing and everyone else on the board is an idiot?
I think it's pretty clear who needs to get a grip.
Tomasello stalling for 4 minutes and Tshirts parallel ride sticks in my craw. That said, gotta attack to win, we didn't. Imart is the new Taylor, what he did to Ness was impressive: agressive and smart.
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You're reading into things, as usual. Some of us weren't impressed with Dziewa's effort in the finals. It's that simple. Anyone who wasn't happy with that match by Dziewa has every reason to feel that way. Yet you state that those of us who had that impression need to "get a grip". That's baloney.
That's for damn sure. I'd start with Nick Moore and go from there.
Dziewa looked to me like he didn't want to get pinned, and he was OK with that. He had a good tournament, not overly enthused about his Finals participation, but nothing to get too excited about either. Probably upped his seed a little bit for St. Louis in the process. He'll struggle to reach the podium, but he's got a shot.
What cost the Hawks the Big 10 trophy outright was ....
Obviously Kelly and Moore's performance on the mat.Brooks (the No 1 Seed) loosing to McCutheon early did not help matters. It's still a Big 10 title for the Hawks. Hopefully, they qualify 10 for the NCCAs. Go Hawks!!!
Obviously Kelly and Moore's performance on the mat.Brooks (the No 1 Seed) loosing to McCutheon early did not help matters. It's still a Big 10 title for the Hawks. Hopefully, they qualify 10 for the NCCAs. Go Hawks!!!
Room for improvement yes, but the gap between Steiber and Jeva is MILES apart. The first match between them this year proved as much and to expect any different today is delusional.
9 Iowa wrestlers are more at fault then Jeva in this tournament, and the results and placements CLEARLY back that up.
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I know there are 1 million coulda shoulda wouldas from this weekend and OSU probably has just as many. The thing that sticks out to me the most though is the last 30 seconds of Buraks 3rd/4th place match. It was tied up and he had Schillers leg elevated to a point where any college wrestlers scores 75-80% of the time in that situation. He tries to trip Schiller and falls flat on his stomach and Schiller spins around for 2 and the win. In no way did Burak cost Iowa the outright Big Ten Title, but that one sticks out to me more than any others probably because it happened so late in the tournament.
I had no issues with Jeva's finals performance. There was no way he was going to keep from getting Tech'ed, Streebler was jacked and just like Ruth or Taylor, he is on such a different level that there was no chance for Jeva. Jeva getting there was huge. I would rather have a quick tech fall than Streebler wearing him down and pinning him late in the match, which could have happened.
Here is what I am disappointed in: We have 2 matches left, Burak and Telford, they are the last two Iowa Wrestlers, if either of them wins, Iowa Wins....and they have to know that. Both had chances but neither could seal the deal. All points are critical and all losses hurt us at all levels, but wrestling at the end, knowing you can clinch it and not coming through, that was disappointing, #hawkeye-expectations.
That being said, I am confident that TnT will rework and remotivate and we will be ready for St Louis. Big Ten's are a warm up for Nationals, I think we are warmed up now.
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Here is what I am disappointed in: We have 2 matches left, Burak and Telford, they are the last two Iowa Wrestlers, if either of them wins, Iowa Wins....and they have to know that. Both had chances but neither could seal the deal. All points are critical and all losses hurt us at all levels, but wrestling at the end, knowing you can clinch it and not coming through, that was disappointing, #hawkeye-expectations.
That being said, I am confident that TnT will rework and remotivate and we will be ready for St Louis. Big Ten's are a warm up for Nationals, I think we are warmed up now.
This post was edited on 3/9 9:17 AM by Neo_Hawk
Does this look like 10 happy campers? Why Johhny Ringo! You look like somebody just walked over your grave.
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This post was edited on 3/9 9:36 AM by mike tognetti
Originally posted by mike tognetti:
Does this look like 10 happy campers? Why Johhny Ringo! You look like somebody just walked over your grave.
This post was edited on 3/9 9:36 AM by mike tognetti
They were all tuckered out. It's hard work when you have a REAL Tournament instead of a 4 team round Robin.
Of course they look pretty much like John Smith probably looked after some of your finals scores. Al those exciting 2-1, 3-2, 5-3, 4-3 TB2 scores over those other highly ranked teams you play with and John must be all tuckered out too.
It isn't the co-champs thing that makes this bittersweet, its going 0-4 in the finals and failing to close the door. You've got to find a way to get a win when you're favored in one match and 50/50 on two.
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