Thanks for proving my point that the people in the middle need to do something to change this crap. As you pointed out 15 years ago a middle ground stopped being reached. I know your old but that means anyone around 40 and under only voted once or twice max for a party that wasn’t my way or the highway.You can’t be UNDECiDED in this election. Politics is ( or never has been) “my way or the highway”…. That is why 2 parties works… generally a “middle ground” is negotiated and adopted. That is until the past 15 years or so. Either you believe in and support the Constitution or you want a few government system adapted here. There is no “middle ground” available. Either you attended Civics class in junior high or you excused yourself and went to the bathroom during class. However understand that any “new” government short of a dictatorship will face problems similar to what we have today. Also understand (and this is key), today’s problems are not so much “left vs. right” as they are “haves vs. have nots”… The “have” have the power and via politics have guaranteed their position if control (think Supreme Court and Citizen’s United decision as their lynchpin to control)….ni need to think that a “new” system if government won’t continue to protect the monied interest from the rest of us….. so by golly let’s not dare tax the rich or their corporations! Taxation and recirculating of tax money is not very efficient but it effectively keeps economics in balance and equalizes financial disparity to some extent.
You can make a very successful argument that it is the rare candidate for president who is qualified and suited for the role and is also interested in assuming the role.We deserve having two very poor choices. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
I only listen to Bret Baier because he wouldn't mislead the American public.What is your preferred source?
I don't trust any of them.I only listen to Bret Baier because he wouldn't mislead the American public.
Not scared. Regardless of whoever wins, I live in California. The federal government has very little influence here.Seems they're petrified. Multiple threads on McDonald's. Multiple threads on Arnold palmer dick. They even brought back Stormy Daniel's lol. What's the deal? This place sure changed from a month ago.
I agree with that which is why the rest of the country thinks Cali is clueless. 😏Not scared. Regardless of whoever wins, I live in California. The federal government has very little influence here.
We run our own show.
No…noy what I said or what I meant…..Thanks for proving my point that the people in the middle need to do something to change this crap. As you pointed out 15 years ago a middle ground stopped being reached. I know your old but that means anyone around 40 and under only voted once or twice max for a party that wasn’t my way or the highway.
Understand….but this cycle its about continuoing with the current Constitution or abandoning it for a new type of republic…..like Italy of the 1930’s. Except we (the US wouldn’t have an “El Duce”…….we’d have an “El Douche-bag”!)Perhaps that middle consists of people that have democratic thoughts on certain items and republican thoughts on certain items. They aren’t all in on one or the other. Wouldn’t that be something if the people could work together and better this country? Maybe they do have thoughts, it’s just not worth the time debating with someone that won’t listen.
Hmm I never knew the people in the middle were responsible for reality tv shows.No…noy what I said or what I meant…..
15 years ago, “the middle” ceased pausing attention to what was going on……They failed top keep up on current t events…..They decided to let others do their thinking and decided “reality TV shows” where more important than understanding facts. Most of “the middle” dropped out!
Oh so this time around for voting we are only allowed to vote for Kamala (“democracy”) or Trump (“new republic”). What were we voting for the previous 15 years?Understand….but this cycle its about continuoing with the current Constitution or abandoning it for a new type of republic…..like Italy of the 1930’s. Except we (the US wouldn’t have an “El Duce”…….we’d have an “El Douche-bag”!)
This time YOU know what you rate voting for. In ‘16 I had a pretty good idea…..In ‘20 I was voting AGAIST the Orange Asshole……this time I am voting against the Orange Penis-lover.Oh so this time around for voting we are only allowed to vote for Kamala (“democracy”) or Trump (“new republic”). What were we voting for the previous 15 years?
Pretty sad how many of you just vote to keep a guy out of office and don’t give a crap what the Democratic Party does or doesn’t accomplish while in office.This time YOU know what you rate voting for. In ‘16 I had a pretty good idea…..In ‘20 I was voting AGAIST the Orange Asshole……this time I am voting against the Orange Penis-lover.
The Kamala surge turned into a turdSeems they're petrified. Multiple threads on McDonald's. Multiple threads on Arnold palmer dick. They even brought back Stormy Daniel's lol. What's the deal? This place sure changed from a month ago.
Trumpers seem overconfident right now. MAGA types are usually overconfident by nature, but the recent tightening of the polls has them prematurely claiming a landslide victory, which is unlikely.
I still think Kamala wins. Trumpers are focused on gains with Latinos and Black men, but they are overlooking the potential for underperformance among actual registered Republicans and White woman. There is also a widespread assumption that polls are still undercounting Trump voters, which may or may not be the case this time.
The Dems do things when in power! Under Biden, the economy has recovered fully….unemployment is close to record lows…..Stock Market is at record highs….Infrastructure is being rebuilt……thanks to strictly Democratic support as NO republicans voted to pass the legislation…..BUT Republicans are crowding the stage at the ribbon cuttings!Pretty sad how many of you just vote to keep a guy out of office and don’t give a crap what the Democratic Party does or doesn’t accomplish while in office.
Pretty weird for a group of people that are supposed to accept people for who they are or what they believe they are.
Trumps phucking weird, but I’ll vote for him to keep the crazy democrats policies and ideas away from the American people.
The Dems do things when in power! Under Biden, the economy has recovered fully….unemployment is close to record lows…..Stock Market is at record highs….Infrastructure is being rebuilt……thanks to strictly Democratic support as NO republicans voted to pass the legislation…..BUT Republicans are crowding the stage at the ribbon cuttings!
Don’t say Dems dont do anything…..Democrats get shit done!
Trump’s “tax cut” will surrender more revenue than the tuition bailout will…….
The Dems do things when in power! Under Biden, the economy has recovered fully….unemployment is close to record lows…..Stock Market is at record highs….Infrastructure is being rebuilt……thanks to strictly Democratic support as NO republicans voted to pass the legislation…..BUT Republicans are crowding the stage at the ribbon cuttings!
Don’t say Dems dont do anything…..Democrats get shit done!
Trump’s “tax cut” will surrender more revenue than the tuition bailout will…….
Harris will win. Book it.
I am.I don’t know how anybody on either side could be confident.
Only because your schlong is bigger than Arnie’s!I am.
Better believe it. I better trademark that phrase.Only because your schlong is bigger than Arnie’s!
Like I said earlier. You believe what your politicians tell you but your tooooo stupid realize they have their own agenda and they don’t care about you or me or anyone else without any power.The Dems do things when in power! Under Biden, the economy has recovered fully….unemployment is close to record lows…..Stock Market is at record highs….Infrastructure is being rebuilt……thanks to strictly Democratic support as NO republicans voted to pass the legislation…..BUT Republicans are crowding the stage at the ribbon cuttings!
Don’t say Dems dont do anything…..Democrats get shit done!
Trump’s “tax cut” will surrender more revenue than the tuition bailout will…….
Because you say so? Here in Iowa indications are the opposite in a coupled of Congressional races and several legislative races. But, I am sure Sully, you KNOW best.Tightening of the polls? They were tight a few weeks ago. No so much anymore.
In fact, Kamala is beginning to hurt the down ballot candidates.
Damn, you forgot to write your favorite word - to - after the word stupid. Keep trying, you’ll eventually get it, slugger!Like I said earlier. You believe what your politicians tell you but your tooooo stupid realize they have their own agenda and they don’t care about you or me or anyone else without any power.
And yet you were able to figure it out. Almost like fixing grammar errors is irrelevant. But I guess you need to contribute in a positive manner somehow. Well done!Damn, you forgot to write your favorite word - to - after the word stupid. Keep trying, you’ll eventually get it, slugger!
This.Hey if Trump wins, so be it. My opinion of my fellow Americans will fall certainly and I am concerned how that clown will hurt this country economically and the working class will be the victims of it all. My family is insulated from the worst of it, but my empathy for those that suffer from it while also voting for it will be in very short supply. Go cry somewhere else will be my attitude.
If Trump's economy crashes no way MAGA puts the blame on him, they're to far gone for rational thinking.Buyers regret from the dipshit poors who vote for him and get subsequently shafted when he tanks the economy will probably be amusing i guess 🤷♂️
You should hear what we say about Florida.I agree with that which is why the rest of the country thinks Cali is clueless. 😏
And I'm looking forward to the reactions from you imbeciles when it goes the other way. I'm not looking forward to the meltdown that leads to another insurrection but we will be ready this time so it will not go very well for the trumpers at all. Hopefully after that you dipshits sit down and shut the hell up and let the adults run the country.They are scared. even started making up stuff about posters so they feel better about themselves.
Two weeks and a day from now is going to be amazing watching the meltdowns. I’m almost more excited about that than getting the democrats out of office.
You are a moron if you have less money now. Maybe pick yourself up by the bootstraps and better your own station in life if you can't hang.Yeah that’s why I’ve often mentioned that I had more money in the bank account when Trump was president. You know those multiple “are you better off now” threads that were started.
But you’re right? I’m just voting for Trump because I’m an unserious person.
Was that a serious comment?
Same. I have kept quiet because it's fun watching the MAGAts be so overconfident and have their bubble burst. But they aren't going to be happy in a few weeks and I'm sure they'll throw their little temper tantrum again because "the polls said he was ahead no way he lost" bunch of lost little children who haven't learned how to critically think.I am.
Well, we do have more of this now....but you dims revel in it >You are a moron if you have less money now. Maybe pick yourself up by the bootstraps and better your own station in life if you can't hang.
Well we’ve had an incompetent democrat leading us the last 4 years. Guessing we will continue to wonder what the heck is wrong with the American people until next election and hope our country doesn’t continue to get worse in the mean time.And I'm looking forward to the reactions from you imbeciles when it goes the other way. I'm not looking forward to the meltdown that leads to another insurrection but we will be ready this time so it will not go very well for the trumpers at all. Hopefully after that you dipshits sit down and shut the hell up and let the adults run the country.
LOL okay. Truthfully? I doubt that each of us cares what the other says. (We lived in Orange County and knew it would only be a year or two but we enjoyed it - this was before it became a Democrat stronghold)You should hear what we say about Florida.
Seriously though there's very little federal law that affects our day-to-day.
Our employment law is more strict than federal.
Our occupational safety and health laws are more strict than federal.
Our environmental laws are more strict than federal.
Abortion is legal.
Weed is legal.
We spend more money on social welfare than anyone else.
I could keep going, but you get the drift. Whether trump or Harris become president. Not a lot changes here.
I think part of our problem is that for many years we experienced what you have now. Tons of people moving into the state. Housing market couldn't keep up (nor could utility or service industries), and property and costs of life increased exponentially. Feels like California is going through a period of correction.LOL okay. Truthfully? I doubt that each of us cares what the other says. (We lived in Orange County and knew it would only be a year or two but we enjoyed it - this was before it became a Democrat stronghold)
Maybe the remaining 48 have an opinion. I know lots of Navy people absolutely love the time they’re stationed in San Diego but many more retire here in Florida. They can’t afford Cali. My nephew is a senior Naval officer living in SD now and he and the family are retiring and will be here in January. They have enjoyed the years on the West Coast but won’t miss the politics and regulations that they think are excessive.
(They aren’t MAGA and both are degreed).
On average we gain 1,000 new residents a day. I know Cali loses people every day.
You have nice weather. Good Universities. Good job opportunities.
It’s eroding. Don’t let it slip away.