Boise State dropping wrestling.
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That's too bad. They were pretty solid recently weren't they? I'm still bummed that New Mexico dropped their program right after I moved there.
http://www.broncosports.com/genrel/041817aaa.html
What factors contributed to this decision?
There are multiple factors at play, including our role in the Mountain West and the long-term best interest of the university and its athletic department. Still, every decision made within collegiate athletics involves budgetary and compliance issues for the short and the long term.
Wonder if they will elaborate on the "compliance issues" for the short and long term?
What factors contributed to this decision?
There are multiple factors at play, including our role in the Mountain West and the long-term best interest of the university and its athletic department. Still, every decision made within collegiate athletics involves budgetary and compliance issues for the short and the long term.
Wonder if they will elaborate on the "compliance issues" for the short and long term?
Maybe title IX compliance means they would need to bring on another women's sport or cut a men's program to start up a baseball program?
Here are the POC's if you guys feel like a rant:
President Bob Kustra
president@boisestate.edu
Athletic Director Curt Apsey
capsey@boisestate.edu
Assistant AD Bob Carney robertcarney@boisestate.edu
Media Relations Joe Nickell
joenickell@boisestate.edu
President Bob Kustra
president@boisestate.edu
Athletic Director Curt Apsey
capsey@boisestate.edu
Assistant AD Bob Carney robertcarney@boisestate.edu
Media Relations Joe Nickell
joenickell@boisestate.edu
http://www.idahostatesman.com/sport...t/boise-state-university/article40865580.html
Starting a baseball team at BSU is a pet project of the president.
School is currently in TIX compliance.
Wrestling goes to the chopping block to make room for baseball.
Starting a baseball team at BSU is a pet project of the president.
School is currently in TIX compliance.
Wrestling goes to the chopping block to make room for baseball.
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If you write to Kustra, say hi to Melissa for me - she's his executive assistant so will probably be screening all emails. She's also the wife of a good friend of mine - I'll be calling her tomorrow to see what she can tell me, though the news stories seem to provide enough information. Her hubby, my buddy, grew up with me in SW Iowa.
Here's a link to another story in the Idaho newspaper - gives some additional details, such as in 2015-16 the wrestling program had $115K in revenues and $467K in expenses (surprises me that 14 of their 16 sports lost money). http://www.idahostatesman.com/sport.../boise-state-university/article145320164.html
Some notes about BSU, for those who might not have followed them. In 2006 they had an NCAA champ --- Ben Cherrington at 157. I officiated a match of his when he was a little tyke in jr. high in Colorado - Ben then coached N. Colorado for 5 years. His coach at BSU was Greg Randall, a 3x AA for Iowa - Randall coached at BSU for 14 years and brought them some decent success.
Agree. This is strictly a pet project from the president. See attached link. Baseball allows 11.7 schollies and averages 35 athletes at the D1 level. Wrestling allows 1.8 fewer schollies and has about the same participants. So at best, this move is a wash financially if Boise St under funds its scholarship amounts and this does nothing for a true Title IX compliance where balance is not currently being achieved. I don't think this move has anything to do with Title IX beyond keeping status quo. The president simply desires baseball at the expense of wrestling.
http://diycollegerankings.com/11-7-reality-check/475/
Shouldn't be a surprise. Only football and men's basketball make money anywhere. Outside of a few exception of course. Only those two make money at Iowa.
The only reason it is a factor is that they can't add baseball and stay compliant. They have to start a women's program or drop a men's program.
I know, and stated as such in my post, but the way I worded it was messy. Some compliance issues are to address a current imbalance and some are to maintain balance. This move is to maintain balance. Crappy move from the prez no matter what. Like D1 baseball needs a 296th team.
Stalling isn't called = boring product = lack of fans. Thanks NCAA and referees for not calling it stalling when it is obviously stalling.
This is a real shame...I guess I hadn't realized Randall had been let go...he had some good teams over the years and for awhile pretty much owned the pac 10....I always loved watching them wrestle at nationals and always said they looked like Iowa wrestlers in blue and orange with their wrestling style years ago I was in St. Louis for the tournament and we were in line at a food joint and I was behind some Boise fans....mentioned to them that I was really impressed with the program and one kid in particular...think he was a 184 pounder....turned out the kids dad was one of them....they all were big Iowa fans too....anyone know where Randalls at now....out of wrestling?
A little part of me dies everytime a Men's Olympic sport is cut. It is a travesty.
That isn't what the article above about adding baseball (from June 2015) says...
"Boise State can add a men’s sport without violating Title IX, Kustra said. Baseball teams are allowed 11.7 scholarships."
Must admit, read the president's quote as, "Can't add" the first time through. Oops, probably should have looked into it after emotions died down a bit!
Feel a little like a beat dog seeing a rolled up newspaper every time one of these stories breaks.
I would guess that baseball costs a lot more than wrestling. Bats, balls and field maintenance arent cheap. they would also have to travel a lot if they dont have a dome I would guess. I doubt Boise is warm in the spring. Probably a lot of politics here.
As I said on my home board:
Baseball in Idaho is as useless as tits on a boar hog.
College baseball is pretty worthless in most places north of the Mason-Dixon Line, and Idaho is particularly lacking in home grown talent and acceptable spring weather.
Even in strong baseball areas, college baseball is brutal. I live in Austin and you couldn't pay me to watch a UT game.
Big football donors are PISSED about this as well as student leadership. I think that wrestling has a much better chance than I did this morning.
The football donors are reportedly threatening to take money away from the football program and that'd be a huge problem. This could actually be the best thing to ever happen for BSU wrestling (if they keep it).
The football donors are reportedly threatening to take money away from the football program and that'd be a huge problem. This could actually be the best thing to ever happen for BSU wrestling (if they keep it).
Not so fast my friend! Boise administration feeling the heat!
didn't they learn anything from the olympic movement, don't mess with wrestling.
Exactly wasdt21, it's like I said when they were going to drop wrestling in the Olympics, It's the only thing the Americans, Iranians, Russians, Mongolians, Japanese etc can agree on 100%. Now Iowa, Ok St, Penn State, tOSU etc have to unite behind Boise.
I feel a Iowa/Boise St dual coming on....
