Imagine if the wealthiest person in the country used that wealth to do more, something beneficial and lasting, rather than troll on social media for clicks by a bunch of bots
Bridge Collapse Baltimore
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Imagine if the wealthiest person in the country used that wealth to do more, something beneficial and lasting, rather than troll on social media for clicks by a bunch of bots
You make some good points.
Rail should absolutely be considered, both passenger and cargo. Yes, it would require new connection points/sidings, etc… but this is a once in 50 years chance.
If a sizable number of those containers could come into/leave Baltimore via rail, think of the relief that highway traffic would realize.
Charleston, SC replaced three bridges with one cable suspension bridge and included bike/pedestrian lanes that have turned the bridge into a major attraction. The marathon crowd there each year is massive.
Transport dollars should incorporate multiple user types, not just vehicular traffic.
People need to start honestly asking themselves why buy a car from this moron?
I wonder how much material pulled from a rubble pile is in one of his homes?
After the feds announced - just a few hrs after the incident - that “nothing nefarious” occurred, the NTSB has now admitted two minutes of data from the black box (just prior to collision) has disappeared and their investigation will take ‘up to two years’ to complete.
Same 💩 different day.
Same 💩 different day.
This is true, my flat Earther nurse told me as such...both a true story and to show you what fvcking idiot you have to believe to be said shit
The first vessel to pass by the accident site was a fuel barge headed for Dover AFB. Shallow draft boats are making past for now, with the hope that a deeper draft channel will be open soon.
Also, news about the owner of the ship attempting to limit their liability to $43 million.
https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-04-02-2024-a533659d18ddd8a8befa80c41141e41d
Also, news about the owner of the ship attempting to limit their liability to $43 million.
https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-04-02-2024-a533659d18ddd8a8befa80c41141e41d
I'm guessing you have no idea if Musk does more, or not. Musk's wealth is primarily in stock.
The ship owner has filed a document in federal court declaring their liability is limited to $43.6M.
The owners of the Dali container ship involved in the deadly collapse of a Baltimore bridge last week, after it crashed into the structure, have denied responsibility and are seeking to limit their legal liability.
Grace Ocean Private Limited, the ship’s owner, and the manager Synergy Marine Pte said in a federal court filing on Monday that they denied any fault or neglect of the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge that claimed the lives of six construction workers.
The companies are asking for exoneration from liability, but if they are held responsible in lawsuits, the companies are asking for a cap on any payout.
The joint filing, submitted in a Maryland District Court, seeks to cap the companies’ liability at roughly $43.6m.
“The [bridge collapse] was not due to any fault, neglect, or want of care on the part of [ship owner & operator], the Vessel, or any persons or entities for whose acts [ship owner & operator] may be responsible,” the filing stated.
“Alternatively, if any such faults caused or contributed to the [bridge collapse], or to any loss or damage arising out of the [bridge collapse], which is denied, such faults were occasioned and occurred without [ship owner & operator] privity or knowledge.”
The owner and operator of the Dali vessel submitted the filing under the Limitation of Liability Act of 1851, a piece of legislation that enables ship owners to limit their liability for certain claims to the value of the vessel and its cargo at the end of its journey.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...S&cvid=14a23600a9cd478dab7bf2ed7b7770c7&ei=49
The owners of the Dali container ship involved in the deadly collapse of a Baltimore bridge last week, after it crashed into the structure, have denied responsibility and are seeking to limit their legal liability.
Grace Ocean Private Limited, the ship’s owner, and the manager Synergy Marine Pte said in a federal court filing on Monday that they denied any fault or neglect of the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge that claimed the lives of six construction workers.
The companies are asking for exoneration from liability, but if they are held responsible in lawsuits, the companies are asking for a cap on any payout.
The joint filing, submitted in a Maryland District Court, seeks to cap the companies’ liability at roughly $43.6m.
“The [bridge collapse] was not due to any fault, neglect, or want of care on the part of [ship owner & operator], the Vessel, or any persons or entities for whose acts [ship owner & operator] may be responsible,” the filing stated.
“Alternatively, if any such faults caused or contributed to the [bridge collapse], or to any loss or damage arising out of the [bridge collapse], which is denied, such faults were occasioned and occurred without [ship owner & operator] privity or knowledge.”
The owner and operator of the Dali vessel submitted the filing under the Limitation of Liability Act of 1851, a piece of legislation that enables ship owners to limit their liability for certain claims to the value of the vessel and its cargo at the end of its journey.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...S&cvid=14a23600a9cd478dab7bf2ed7b7770c7&ei=49
He had enough cash and credit to drop $40 billion on a loser company like Twitter and somehow make it less profitable.
AP story about the mega crane moved in to clear wreckage, and its connection to one of the most brazen CIA operations of all time.
apnews.com
What do a top-secret CIA mission and the Maryland bridge wreck have in common? Well, the same crane
A floating crane that’s been hauling away shattered steel from a collapsed Baltimore bridge played a much different role during the Cold War.
apnews.com
He didn’t personally spend the purchase price to buy it.
He spent some, borrowed some, and carried over investors from Twitter who wanted to keep their large stakes.
It’s ignorant to keep asserting Musk had 40 billion liquid to buy Twitter. It just didn’t happen like that.
Neuralink livestream shows paralyzed person playing chess on laptop
Elon Musk said in January that the company he co-founded had implanted its first device in a human with the goal of allowing people to control devices “just by thinking.”
www.nbcnews.com
when you use federal funds on a transportation project, it doesn't pay for all 100% of the project
you have to have a "local match" - usually 20% of the total cost
the article says the legislation would provide separate funds that make that local match unnecesary...and i imagine they'll waive some of the other design/envioronmental review processes (or allow them to run concurrently) to get the bridge rebuilt faster
They need to stop being nice about this. Nobody in, nobody out until funding for the bridge has been appropriated. Work with the unions and Philadelphia/New York to make it prohibitive to shift the burden elsewhere.
The early focus is on the electrical systems of the ship.
https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-investigation-85bd81d1dfefc6efc5bc9a2e22d6999a
https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-investigation-85bd81d1dfefc6efc5bc9a2e22d6999a
For those who know anything about maritime law, out of curiosity, do the normal limits of liability also act to preclude restitution-like damages/remedies associated with criminal acts/convictions?
HORT would be my first and only place I’d go to find an expert on Maritime Law
The Skanska case in Pensacola Federal and Florida civil courts is instructive.
Skanska was building the new bridge over Pensacola Bay. They had over 50 barges involved, and had just completed one of the two spans. Hurricane Sally shifted from expected landfall along the MS-AL line about 75 miles east, and the major impact was the FL-AL line, pushing a major storm surge into Pensacola Bay.
Skanska had a hurricane plan as part of their contract. The plan was detailed, and it involved moving the barges to a safe harbor. They did not do so, and 28 of the barges broke loose, taking out multiple spans of the new bridge. As a result, a 35+ mile detour was required for people living across the bay. A lot of businesses were affected for over 9 months. Those businesses sued in Florida Circuit Civil Court. Skanska sued in Federal Court, and argued the same Maritime Law applied, and they should be limited to direct damages, and limited to the value of the vessels.
Skanska lost in the Federal District Court, and appealed to the Federal Circuit Court. All the lawsuits in Florida Circuit Courts resumed. The Federal Circuit Court overturned the District Court ruling. That fight has the additional element of contract law and liability.
Ultimately, the archaic maritime law is pretty specific, and limits liability to direct liability up to the value of the vessel. That essentially means the cost to repair the bridge itself, deaths of the people on the bridge, but no indirect costs.
They really should put a maritime law essay on the bar exam once in a while to keep bar review on their toes
having just finished an unduly lengthy negotiation of indemnity and limitation on liability clauses in a commercial contract, I found this write up fascinating.
As always, there are nuances argued by both sides.
Here's a link with more information.
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/loca... Frydrychowicz,during Hurricane Sally in 2020
The article is not clear on the entire process, however. The initial Appeals Court ruling upheld that federal maritime law applied.
The local owner of the oyster bed had direct damages. Thee were over 1100 state lawsuits. The lawsuits dismissed were because they had indirect damages, such as lost business because of the detour.
The major questions were jurisdiction and intentional negligence. District Court denied application of maritime law because the barges were not under power. They found negligence. The Circuit Court also found negligence, but said maritime law applied.
One of the Noles seems knowledgeable and deals with it professionally. I forget which one. He's in and out of this thread.
Fresh reports that the ship was having electrical issues while docked, the crew was aware, but they decided to set sail anyway and fix the while underway. I am sure the crew and ships engineers are capable of handling a lot of stuff while underway, but how widespread was the issue, and did they fail to recognize a larger issue looming?
https://apnews.com/article/baltimor...vestiagation-58188d524035c756872603055f309c78
https://apnews.com/article/baltimor...vestiagation-58188d524035c756872603055f309c78
