Invite Penn and bring Fran back as well as Siena and Mulvey.
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Bring Back The Amana Hawkeye Classic
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Fran gets a technical and Iowa gets to shoot free throws! I like it!!
Fran was good for Iowa basketball for a lot of years. No need to embarrass him now
In all seriousness, bringing back that tourney might be a round-about way to get Drake and UNI on the schedule again....
Has anyone heard McCollum talk about his scheduling desires yet? Hopefully we get away from this 300+ teams to stack wins bullshit. Year after year the strength of schedule in the non-con sucks. I'd really like to stop seeing almost exclusively trash teams with the exception of a handful of 'feature' games in South Dakota plus Iowa State. In the years they don't play a cool in season holiday tourney the schedule isn't even fun. And lately it seems those are usually only 2 game tournaments and pretty meager.
I know you need some tuneup games and teams willing to take a beating to fill home games, but get some more 100-200 level teams vs the murderers row of teams that many didn't realize exist in D1.
I know you need some tuneup games and teams willing to take a beating to fill home games, but get some more 100-200 level teams vs the murderers row of teams that many didn't realize exist in D1.
I couldn't care less about scheduling Penn or Siena, but I do like the idea of bringing back the AHC, as well as the Drake/UNI rivalry games. As a fan, I found that stuff far more fun than SC Upstate and meaningless crap games like that.
Seemed like Ben had his own thoughts on scheduling to make the NCAA Tournament, so we'll see what he ends up doing.
Seemed like Ben had his own thoughts on scheduling to make the NCAA Tournament, so we'll see what he ends up doing.
From UNI's perspective, no thank you.
Home and home, or possibly Cedar Rapids. Either of those options would be good for all schools involved... But it will likely never happen again.
Losing to good mid-majors (especially on the road) doesn't really hurt a good power conference team. But it helps the mid-major, and the power conferences just can't have that if they want to get 6 teams with losing conference records into the NCAA tournament.
If Iowa can't beat UNI and Drake, Iowa doesn't belong in the NCAA tournament. The Hawkeyes should play Drake and UNI every season, just as the women do. Neutral sites would be fine, but so would standard home and away. If Iowa's afraid of its in-state mid-majors . . .
I think that tourney, like home and homes with Drake and UNI, went bye bye due to economic reasons.
Bring back Alford, Pearl and Fran for a tournament. It would sell out.
Honestly, if they were really smart, they'd try to set up a deal with Des Moines to host their own early season non-conference tournament, and use that as a means to get the 4 Iowa schools to meet up.
"But Evil, they tried something like this a decade ago"
What you do is sell this as an opportunity to play in a future NCAA Tournament venue and bring in similar type schools and other mid-majors to round out the field. Allow me to explain.
Live from Des Moines, IA it's the Heartland Holiday Classic:
-Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa and Drake are all host schools.
-Because they're host schools, similar to what they've done with these pre-conference tournaments in the past, the 4 in-state schools will have to host "play-in" games.
(Using 2025 dates as example)
Monday, Nov. 17th-
Colgate at Iowa
Duquense at Iowa State
North Alabama at Northern Iowa
Pacific at Drake
(All remaining games played in DSM)
Friday, Nov. 21st-
Gm 1 Col/IA winner vs DePaul
Gm 2 Duq/ISU winner vs California
Gm 3 NA/UNI winner vs Saint Louis
Gm 4 Pac/Drake winner vs Oklahoma
Saturday, Nov. 22nd-
Semifinal 1: Gm 1 winner vs Gm 3 winner
Consolation 1: Gm 1 loser vs Gm 3 loser
Semifinal 2: Gm 2 winner vs Gm 4 winner
Consolation 2: Gm 2 loser vs Gm 4 loser
Sunday, Nov. 23rd-
7th place game
5th place game
3rd place game
Championship game
You're welcome, folks.
"But Evil, they tried something like this a decade ago"
What you do is sell this as an opportunity to play in a future NCAA Tournament venue and bring in similar type schools and other mid-majors to round out the field. Allow me to explain.
Live from Des Moines, IA it's the Heartland Holiday Classic:
-Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa and Drake are all host schools.
-Because they're host schools, similar to what they've done with these pre-conference tournaments in the past, the 4 in-state schools will have to host "play-in" games.
(Using 2025 dates as example)
Monday, Nov. 17th-
Colgate at Iowa
Duquense at Iowa State
North Alabama at Northern Iowa
Pacific at Drake
(All remaining games played in DSM)
Friday, Nov. 21st-
Gm 1 Col/IA winner vs DePaul
Gm 2 Duq/ISU winner vs California
Gm 3 NA/UNI winner vs Saint Louis
Gm 4 Pac/Drake winner vs Oklahoma
Saturday, Nov. 22nd-
Semifinal 1: Gm 1 winner vs Gm 3 winner
Consolation 1: Gm 1 loser vs Gm 3 loser
Semifinal 2: Gm 2 winner vs Gm 4 winner
Consolation 2: Gm 2 loser vs Gm 4 loser
Sunday, Nov. 23rd-
7th place game
5th place game
3rd place game
Championship game
You're welcome, folks.
And bring back the Great Alaskan Shoot Out!
(I wanna be teenager again)
(I wanna be teenager again)
Interesting. Could be pretty cool if something like this were to ever happen.Honestly, if they were really smart, they'd try to set up a deal with Des Moines to host their own early season non-conference tournament, and use that as a means to get the 4 Iowa schools to meet up.
"But Evil, they tried something like this a decade ago"
What you do is sell this as an opportunity to play in a future NCAA Tournament venue and bring in similar type schools and other mid-majors to round out the field. Allow me to explain.
Live from Des Moines, IA it's the Heartland Holiday Classic:
-Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa and Drake are all host schools.
-Because they're host schools, similar to what they've done with these pre-conference tournaments in the past, the 4 in-state schools will have to host "play-in" games.
(Using 2025 dates as example)
Monday, Nov. 17th-
Colgate at Iowa
Duquense at Iowa State
North Alabama at Northern Iowa
Pacific at Drake
(All remaining games played in DSM)
Friday, Nov. 21st-
Gm 1 Col/IA winner vs DePaul
Gm 2 Duq/ISU winner vs California
Gm 3 NA/UNI winner vs Saint Louis
Gm 4 Pac/Drake winner vs Oklahoma
Saturday, Nov. 22nd-
Semifinal 1: Gm 1 winner vs Gm 3 winner
Consolation 1: Gm 1 loser vs Gm 3 loser
Semifinal 2: Gm 2 winner vs Gm 4 winner
Consolation 2: Gm 2 loser vs Gm 4 loser
Sunday, Nov. 23rd-
7th place game
5th place game
3rd place game
Championship game
You're welcome, folks.
I had no problem not playing in Cedar Falls anymore after the way the refs bent us over multiple times up there. Absolute BS.
I like it…put an Ivy in there and I’m totally in - not Penn but Cornell or Yale or HarvardHonestly, if they were really smart, they'd try to set up a deal with Des Moines to host their own early season non-conference tournament, and use that as a means to get the 4 Iowa schools to meet up.
"But Evil, they tried something like this a decade ago"
What you do is sell this as an opportunity to play in a future NCAA Tournament venue and bring in similar type schools and other mid-majors to round out the field. Allow me to explain.
Live from Des Moines, IA it's the Heartland Holiday Classic:
-Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa and Drake are all host schools.
-Because they're host schools, similar to what they've done with these pre-conference tournaments in the past, the 4 in-state schools will have to host "play-in" games.
(Using 2025 dates as example)
Monday, Nov. 17th-
Colgate at Iowa
Duquense at Iowa State
North Alabama at Northern Iowa
Pacific at Drake
(All remaining games played in DSM)
Friday, Nov. 21st-
Gm 1 Col/IA winner vs DePaul
Gm 2 Duq/ISU winner vs California
Gm 3 NA/UNI winner vs Saint Louis
Gm 4 Pac/Drake winner vs Oklahoma
Saturday, Nov. 22nd-
Semifinal 1: Gm 1 winner vs Gm 3 winner
Consolation 1: Gm 1 loser vs Gm 3 loser
Semifinal 2: Gm 2 winner vs Gm 4 winner
Consolation 2: Gm 2 loser vs Gm 4 loser
Sunday, Nov. 23rd-
7th place game
5th place game
3rd place game
Championship game
You're welcome, folks.
That's pretty much what they did for 4-5 years after ditching the home and away. Iowa and ISU played Drake and UNI in alternating years in Des Moines.Honestly, if they were really smart, they'd try to set up a deal with Des Moines to host their own early season non-conference tournament, and use that as a means to get the 4 Iowa schools to meet up.
"But Evil, they tried something like this a decade ago"
What you do is sell this as an opportunity to play in a future NCAA Tournament venue and bring in similar type schools and other mid-majors to round out the field. Allow me to explain.
Live from Des Moines, IA it's the Heartland Holiday Classic:
-Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa and Drake are all host schools.
-Because they're host schools, similar to what they've done with these pre-conference tournaments in the past, the 4 in-state schools will have to host "play-in" games.
(Using 2025 dates as example)
Monday, Nov. 17th-
Colgate at Iowa
Duquense at Iowa State
North Alabama at Northern Iowa
Pacific at Drake
(All remaining games played in DSM)
Friday, Nov. 21st-
Gm 1 Col/IA winner vs DePaul
Gm 2 Duq/ISU winner vs California
Gm 3 NA/UNI winner vs Saint Louis
Gm 4 Pac/Drake winner vs Oklahoma
Saturday, Nov. 22nd-
Semifinal 1: Gm 1 winner vs Gm 3 winner
Consolation 1: Gm 1 loser vs Gm 3 loser
Semifinal 2: Gm 2 winner vs Gm 4 winner
Consolation 2: Gm 2 loser vs Gm 4 loser
Sunday, Nov. 23rd-
7th place game
5th place game
3rd place game
Championship game
You're welcome, folks.
He said that you need to schedule to get into the Tournament.
Except they would have to earn it if they wanted to play each other again.
And if you land decent enough teams, it turns into a chance for some quality scheduling, as opposed to playing home games against 300+ NET/Quad 4 teams, because they're too afraid to get screwed over by UNI and Drake hosting their Super Bowl opportunities.
Iowa and Iowa State will not play AT UNI or Drake again, unless something drastic changes, but that doesn't mean they can't find ways to still play each other, and the idea I proposed, I think, would serve better than just the one-offs they were trying several years ago.
Which I think means plenty of winnable games and just enough quad 1/2 ish game at neutral sites
I'd love it if they would start the Big 4 Classic again in Des Moines. Then we'd play either Drake or UNI every year, but not both. Give me a chance to see some games live on Sat. early evening and spend the night downtown. Heck have the ladies do the same thing another weekend.....
The Big 4 Classic. Went almost every year....
The women still actually play all the other in-state schools like the men used to.
Better yet, for the old folks. Bring back the Amana VIP.
