Brock Harding
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Dix is probably the best overall guard on the team, best shooter and defender for sure. It's ridiculous he doesn't play more.
That's said he's not a guy who should be at pg for extended minutes, he's a classic 2 guard.
That's said he's not a guy who should be at pg for extended minutes, he's a classic 2 guard.
That's pretty ambiguous. Tell us specifically who he should be taking minutes from?
Patrick and Perkins.
And I'm completely aware there's zero chance of that occurring.
I’m starting to warm up to what Harding can contribute to Iowa’s offense but ….. same old story …… not much on defense. I’m sorry B10 guards are going to abuse him.
After one game, we've already determined McCaffery's plan of substitution? He probably just did this against an opponent he knew they could dominate. Good way to get everyone some playing time. I heard him say after the game that he had no plans to "platoon" the substitutes. I guess I'll take him at his word until proven otherwise.
I mostly agree with you, but I think Perkins needs to be on the court most of the time. Both are 2s, who can play PG. I think for Iowa to compete with the other top teams Bowen and/or Harding need to be able to give Iowa really good minutes at PG, leaving less time for Dix and maybe Perkins. I think Dix could also play 3 against most teams, but I also want to see Pryce get some meaningful minutes. I haven't seen him enough to know how complete his game is, but he can be a dynamic shooter like his brother.
It keeps coming back to whether Patrick is ever going to be a more complete player, and show an ability to consistently play with aggressiveness and physicality. He really should be a 4, but seems to be unable to mix it up with the other guys his size. It is a good problem that Fran has a larger number of guys who seem to able to contribute, I only hope he is able to put together lineups who can play as a unit on both ends of the court.
This season is going to be a mess. I say we turn to the youth movement during B1G play that hopefully pays off next season and beyond.
PMAC 6’9 who plays like he is 6’1
Tyler is a beat writer for the Register/Press Citizen/HawkCentral.
He's right, imo.
He's right, imo.
I hope we can keep him and freeman. I am very worried that there will be NIL vultures circling Iowa City regardless if fran stays or goes.
Disagree. Bowen has shown a lot more than Ulis ever did. He consistently gets to the hoop and rebounds well. If he keeps improving he will be a pretty good player.
Agree Bowen better than Ulis.
I agree and admit that Desonte along with Brock give Iowa 2 different players that can do 2 different things on the court. Desonte is pretty good getting to the rim and finishing, but he does need to get better with his shooting and court decisions, don't you agree? They are 2 distinctly different players. which is not a bad thing, but I still believe that Brock is the only pure point guard on the Iowa roster and shows that talent every time he gets a chance to play. Unless things change, Iowa has at least 2 players that can handle the position for the next 2 plus year.
Playing Dix and Perkins at that position is not going to make Iowa a better team, dribbling the basketball does not make a player a point guard, and neither of those 2 have the instincts to be a point guard. period!
When you put them on the court together Iowa starts to look like a normal college team in terms of quickness.
I absolutely think they will both be starters next year.
The better teams always have at least two and usually 3 guards who can handle.
I mean the jury is still out on these young guys, but Iowa hasn’t had a guard that could handle, create and score since Fran got here. Most big ten schools have those type of guards every season.
Maybe I'm naive here, but the guy who committed a year and a half before he could sign even though he had bigger brands recruiting him is not the type of guy I am worried about leaving for NIL. If he wanted NIL, he could have extended the recruitment out and visited other schools and created a bidding war last year--he probably would have been ranked in the recruiting services if he would have strung along MSU, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc before committing too.
I agree to a certain extent. But let’s say Freeman really breaks out in the big ten season. Freshman of the year type season. Well, he should absolutely look for some NIL money at Iowa or elsewhere.
Sorry but I think you are Naive. If freeman keeps ringing up freshman of the weeks and playing the way he has: I don't think it takes much for a blue blood to swoop in with big $ and make it very very hard for him to say no.
I don't think he had to make those decisions in hs.
Dasonte/everyone could get better at shooting but is he really that bad compared to his teammates? Especially when he can actually dribble and get to the hole. Fran really hates a guard that can penetrate.
career 3 pt %
Dasonte: .32%
PMac: .32%. .31% as a sr. (1 OR this year) from a 6'9" sr.
Perkins .33%
Sandfort: .35% (I think he is a great shooter with a great release) Never better than 36%
Dix: .40%: 41% this year
Dembele: .36%
Harding 44%
I think he should be due for a nice NIL payday here next year anyways. If the number that I was told TP is making this year is somewhat accurate, then I hope Iowa will be able to get a similar payday for Freeman. Fran is a coach who is more concerned about paying his guys than he is about having enough to go into the portal and lure someone anyways--there's a reason that retention is higher than average at Iowa compared to some other schools and we've sucked at landing guys out of the portal. Fran likes to make sure his guys are paid well before he worries about transfers--which as we've seen has lots of pros and cons to it.
perkins gets paid? This is why NIL is a joke. He's an average to below average power conference 2/3.
What does tony do that is above average for a power conference senior at the 2/3 spot? shoot? rebound? defend? pass? finish? (i'd argue he's a terrible finisher, he's often so awkward he gets fouled.)
If you think tony is a pg please don't answer.
What does tony do that is above average for a power conference senior at the 2/3 spot? shoot? rebound? defend? pass? finish? (i'd argue he's a terrible finisher, he's often so awkward he gets fouled.)
If you think tony is a pg please don't answer.
Every single guy on the team gets paid--that's how our collective works. But yes, I was told by a former player this offseason that TP had some other teams approach him with some offers and that Jordan Montgomery's group and Fran made sure that TP was happy here. He said Tony never really considered leaving because he likes it here, but there were definitely offers out there.
I think your evaluation skills are a joke if you think he is a below average player. He was All Big Honorable Mention last year by both the coaches and media, so apparently your in the minority view. https://hawkeyesports.com/roster/tony-perkins/
Brock Harding has the potential to be a very good and fun to watch PG. But he's not Pete Maravich or even Jason Williams, he's not going anywhere.
I think Tony is probably the best all around guard in Fran’s era. I don’t think it’s particularly close. I honestly don’t even know who would be second. You got guys like Bohannon who can shoot but can’t defend or create. And then you got guys like Gesell and Clemmons who can create and defend but can’t really shoot or score. Maybe Gatens would be second but he just played a year for Fran.
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Devyn Marble and Matt Gatens were definitely better. Marble was All Big and Gatens was 2nd team.
Like I said Gatens played for like a year but he was not creating his shot or anything for others. I keep neglecting Marble, he’d be up there. Maybe I just always looked at him as kind of a point forward, not like a guard.
Frans teams get offensive numbers, even below average shooters like Perkins. I don’t care what you think look at his averages and compare them to his position.
There are two sides to the court offense and defense. So if he’s a below average shooter you are claiming fran coaches a good defender.
He’s averaging about 12 points. On average 3pt shooting and below average two point shooting. He’s just average. Sorry.
Brock, tonight vs UMBC:
29 minutes
0-3 (0%) from three
4-7 (57%) from 2 pt range
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4-10 (40%) overall shooting
2-2 (100%) FTs
10 Points
12 Assists
4 Steals
1 Rebound
1 Turnover
29 minutes
0-3 (0%) from three
4-7 (57%) from 2 pt range
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4-10 (40%) overall shooting
2-2 (100%) FTs
10 Points
12 Assists
4 Steals
1 Rebound
1 Turnover
Wonder if Brock and Owen will be at the Moline game tomorrow night at Wharton against McHenry High School. Hope so...
