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Caitlin Clark goes woke

They weren't looking for guards that would turn the ball over a lot, because the players who did play in the Olympics struggled w/ that, and had far lower TO numbers in the WNBA than Clark did.

She did not try out.
Her first weeks in the WNBA did not make her a "standout" compared to those who did play.

She didn’t, nor should she have played. God had a plan for her and it worked out great. That doesn’t make you correct however
 
I can't figure out how her being white helped her make logo threes, lead the league in assists, etc. Was it her privilege to spend hours in the gym shooting hundreds of shots a day not including team practice?

Honestly, this is some of the dumbest stuff I've read but that's what woke does, it rots the brain.

I think she's just trying to be accepted by people who will never accept her. No amount of groveling to the mob will ever endear her to her peers. Wanting to honor those who blazed the trail and shaped your basketball game is admirable, but you don't have to self-deprecate to raise them up.
I have no “dog in this hunt”, but I would think rather than “white” privilege, Clark should have more appropriately said she had “middle to upper class” privilege? By that I mean her family had the financial resources to send her to hoops camps, etc at an early age to hone her skills. My wife and I were able to send our daughters to various sports-related camps, buy all the necessary equipment/shoes, etc. Whereas, unfortunately some of her friend’s families didn’t have the financial wherewithal to do the same. My take may be off-base, but that’s my 2 cents.
 
Ooohhhh…not so sure about that. 😳
#22 ain’t the best in the WNBA but there is no doubt that she is the straw that stirs the drink for women’s basketball this past 12 months.
She may not be the “best” women’s player in the League but she is the Reggie Jackson of today! She’s a huge star in the game.
(Reggie used to say he may not have been greatest Yankee of those Yankee /Billy ball days if the 70’s..but he was “the straw that stirred the drink” in those days of Yankee greatness.)
 
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Yes....a league with 25% lesbian players and 75% players who want to have access to birth control to ensure they don't get pregnant mid-season, should obviously fall in lockstep with MAGA conservatives who want to eliminate/restrict rights for both of those groups...
Is Shawn Kemp aka Spawn Kemp still impregnating WNBA players? 😳
 
#22 ain’t the best in the WNBA but there is no doubt that she is the straw that stirs the drink for women’s basketball this past 12 months.
She may not be the “best” women’s player in the League but she is the Reggie Jackson of today! She’s a huge star in the game.
(Reggie used to say he may not have been greatest Yankee of those Yankee /Billy ball days if the 70’s..but he was “the straw that stirred the drink” in those days of Yankee greatness.)
I beg to differ that from an overall skill set, i.e. shooting, passing, grit, etc., Clark is the best player in the WNBA. Sure, there are others that are the best “rebounder” or best “defender”, but Clark is the best overall player.
 
Do let me ask because I cannot keep up. Is a snowflake typically a republican or a democrat or can anyone be a snowflake
I thought all snowflakes are unique/different from any other snowflake. 🤔
You posted it. About being "tired of being labeled as racist and privileged"

Did you "get tired of it" after 1 instance?
You two need to get a room. 😜
 
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White privilege absolutely is a thing in many aspects of life. It’s not the reason Caitlin Clark is so popular.

There are a lot of white players in the WNBA, current and former. None of them have/had anywhere near the star power that Clark has.

There are a lot of heterosexual players in the WNBA, current and former. None of them have/had anywhere near the star power that Clark has.

There are a lot of current and former players in the WNBA who are prettier than Caitlin Clark. None of them have/had anywhere near the star power that Clark has.

If being straight, white, and pretty wasn’t enough for those players to achieve the level of stardom that Clark has, then how can we explain Clark’s popularity?

Is it possible that it’s because she scored more points than any other player in the history of Division 1 college basketball and also, by the way, had the third most assists in the history of women’s college basketball?

Might that be a contributing factor?
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A bit of an oversimplification, but he did say that and I do agree with your premise.

With that said, we all still carry a lot of baggage and bias.. women towards men and men towards women, different ethnicities to each other, country people to city people, etc., etc.
Wow, imagine that…we’re all individuals. 😉
 
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1st she’s a classy lady, but you have no clue what her motivation is. Your speculating. I mean it’s just as likely she’s saying hey I’m an ass kicker and I deserve everything. I’ve got by the way. We should also lift up the black women in the league too…

I mean the amount of propaganda, that both sides of this debate, you Dems and the sensitive Republican types have read into her simple statement is a prime example of why we’re constantly gridlocked in Congress, in the media, and any time someone interjects anything that is political.

My Lord!

I'm not speculating I'm just reacting to the answer she gave.

The only people speculating here are the ones who think she was forced to give a politically correct answer to appease the "woke mob".
 
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I'm not speculating I'm just reacting to the answer she gave.

The only people speculating here are the ones who think she was forced to give a politically correct answer to appease the "woke mob".

I didn’t do that. Honestly I may have missed it, but I’m not sure I saw anyone say she was forced to and I was shown the “definition” of woke earlier…

It almost categorically only fits a democrat in the definition forced on me. Any & everything a hard left Dem says denies the “belief” they think republicans are woke…🥳

Just trying to help you out & incidentally you are still speculating about her underlying thoughts…

Just saying’…..

PS…. unless of course you’re suggesting they are “woke“ to the propaganda and deep rooted fallacy of hard left politics. If that’s the case, then they most definitely are woke.😂
 
#22 ain’t the best in the WNBA but there is no doubt that she is the straw that stirs the drink for women’s basketball this past 12 months.
She may not be the “best” women’s player in the League but she is the Reggie Jackson of today! She’s a huge star in the game.
(Reggie used to say he may not have been greatest Yankee of those Yankee /Billy ball days if the 70’s..but he was “the straw that stirred the drink” in those days of Yankee greatness.)
I would say she wasn’t the best in the wnba last season. We will see what the future holds both near and distant.
 
There is no doubt her whiteness is a factor! She is “the Great White Hope” of women’s basketball. There is no debating it!
I can remember 50 years ago a pro tour golfer talking about the future of pro golf and he thought there would be an athletic freak or two come along and remake the game of golf… a taller stronger person, long arms bigger butt, probably a black man..” and this tour pro caught holy hell from many in the game at the time….and Lo and Behold a couple of decades later comes…Tiger Woods!
If she’s the great white hope what does that make Breanna Stewart, ionescu, plum, brink, bueckers, etc? Caitlin being dominant isn’t as unusual as dejean killing it as a rookie cornerback.
 
If she’s the great white hope what does that make Breanna Stewart, ionescu, plum, brink, bueckers, etc? Caitlin being dominant isn’t as unusual as dejean killing it as a rookie cornerback.
But she is far more publicized! How much has de Jean moved the NFL attendance numbers? It’s TV numbers? #22 is a phenomena. And there is no explanations for why….she just is. Folks are jealous of her because??? She works hard… she is careful about her behavior and actions.. she understands she is a role model and acts the part? Because “corporate America” likes her image abd is willing to pay her BIG $$? #22 has caught lightning in a bottle. Thats the way life works. Life isn’t always fair. But what is “unfair” about this situation? Nothing.
 
But she is far more publicized! How much has de Jean moved the NFL attendance numbers? It’s TV numbers? #22 is a phenomena. And there is no explanations for why….she just is. Folks are jealous of her because??? She works hard… she is careful about her behavior and actions.. she understands she is a role model and acts the part? Because “corporate America” likes her image abd is willing to pay her BIG $$? #22 has caught lightning in a bottle. Thats the way life works. Life isn’t always fair. But what is “unfair” about this situation? Nothing.
I’m not disputing Caitlin is a bigger star and I agree with these sentiments. I just don’t think of her as a great white hope. I think of someone with great genetics, who has worked to make the most of them, who has a tremendous work ethic who tries to say and do the right things. Oh, and her brand of basketball is a joy to watch, and she takes the time and effort to sign autographs , give game shoes to kids in the stands, do community work, and be funny. She is corporate America’s dream, and a parent’s dream as a role model for their kids, and I don’t think it has much to do with race.
 
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I’m not disputing Caitlin is a bigger star and I agree with these sentiments. I just don’t think of her as a great white hope. I think of someone with great genetics, who has worked to make the most of them, who has a tremendous work ethic who tries to say and do the right things. Oh, and her brand of basketball is a joy to watch, and she takes the time and effort to sign autographs , give game shoes to kids in the stands, do community work, and be funny. She is corporate America’s dream, and a parent’s dream as a role model for their kids, and I don’t think it has much to do with race.
It doesn’t…. Except by those who do…. And these folks are numerous, obvious and on BOTH sides.
 
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At some point we need to consider that these takes are deliberate to draw attention to the wnba. Controversy draws eyeballs and if the product onnthe floor hasn't done it create a soap opera. It keeps people's attention.

I belive Howard Stern once said more people that hate him tune into his show to be offended than those that love his content. I think South Park figured this out as well.
 
At some point we need to consider that these takes are deliberate to draw attention to the wnba. Controversy draws eyeballs and if the product onnthe floor hasn't done it create a soap opera. It keeps people's attention.

I belive Howard Stern once said more people that hate him tune into his show to be offended than those that love his content. I think South Park figured this out as well.
I honestly don’t think the people giving these takes are that sophisticated when it comes to Caitlin, or thinking big picture as to what is best for the W. Lots and lots and lots of people (pretty much all women) would rather cut off their noses to spite their faces.
 
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I didn’t do that. Honestly I may have missed it, but I’m not sure I saw anyone say she was forced to and I was shown the “definition” of woke earlier…

It almost categorically only fits a democrat in the definition forced on me. Any & everything a hard left Dem says denies the “belief” they think republicans are woke…🥳

Just trying to help you out & incidentally you are still speculating about her underlying thoughts…

Just saying’…..

PS…. unless of course you’re suggesting they are “woke“ to the propaganda and deep rooted fallacy of hard left politics. If that’s the case, then they most definitely are woke.😂

Everytime she has spoken on this Caitlin has repeatedly said that she doesn't want people harassing teammates or other players on her behalf. So I how am I speculating? My opinion is backed by every statement she has made on this for the last 2+ years.

The only people speculating are the people (mostly Republicans) who think Caitlin is giving this answer to appease the "woke mob" while she feels differently deep down.
 
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Everytime she has spoken on this Caitlin has repeatedly said that she doesn't want people harassing teammates or other players on her behalf. So I how am I speculating? My opinion is backed by every statement she has made on this for the last 2+ years.

The only people speculating are the people (mostly Republicans) who think Caitlin is giving this answer to appease the "woke mob" while she feels differently deep down.


Yes, I must’ve crossed my wires a little bit because you are dead on. She definitely doesn’t want players harassed and I think that’s where it starts and stops and it’s fair and deserving….

I’m not sure though I’ve seen anybody suggesting she has ulterior motives. I think they’re suggesting it’s a pretty basic simple human statement. And admittedly, some wished she hadn’t made it which also makes no sense to me.

PS….i *edited in. It dies make sense we you realize some people are trying to over-inflate her words to make it more than it likely was.
 
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Amateur psychiatrist I see. And one who doesn’t think too deeply at that.

Let’s start by the basics, if you are a white man in America, you’re racist.… and we know this because we hear it every night on the news and every time a liberal talking head has a mouthpiece .

As for being called racist…WTH kind of rebuttal is that. Nobody has called me racist in hell I don’t know if ever but certainly not in the last 15-20 years because I generally deal with “sane” people who don’t lump folks into categories and/or make snap judgments, based on your color or who you vote for or where you live.

And about those snap judgements; you don’t have near enough information to make an assessment of what I am or I am not.

Oddly enough, that’s what bigots do… I do so love debate & the written word. People easily and quickly step into hypocrisy.
"Nobody has called me racist in hell".🤣
 
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It is what she said.

I don’t want to be some little person that is kind of dragged around for people to cheer about and only watch because I’m sitting on the bench. That whole narrative kind of upset me. Because that is not fair. It’s disrespectful to the people that were on the team, that had earned it and were really good. And it’s also disrespectful to myself.

She did not want to be on the team just to be a figurehead sitting on the bench.
No, she should have been on the team and playing.
 
She didn't even "excel" in the WNBA AS game last year.
I'm sure she will in future years.
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It's a little disappointing she did it. Her work ethic is insane, and to discount all you've put into making yourself one of the best players in the world is a little sad. White girls shouldn't have to feel like their success is just a product of inherent racism. I just wanted her to continue playing ball and staying above the discourse.
You need to differentiate between her success ... and her success on the court. She is the owner of her success on the court. However, her popularity isn't JUST a product of her hard work. For instance, she has a definitely flair to her. Furthermore, she's goofy ... that makes her even more "real" and relatable. Her ethnicity definitely DOES contribute to her relatability to many people. Her hard work and quality of her play definitely "sets the stage" ... however, without the other factors, she wouldn't have received NEAR the attention she's garnered.

Even look to the NBA ... the talented players who are also all serious and aloof ... they don't get near the attention. That's why Curry DOES get the attention ... when the guy plays, you see the joy that he has for the game. Caitlin's joy for the game of basketball is similarly infectious.

To address your last point ... Caitlin cares very much about helping to continue to grow the women's game. Her move actually helps to that end a lot more than remaining quiet on the matter. Is it NOT rising above to acknowledge the talent of your peers?
 
Portnoy is one of the most obnoxious people on the planet, but that rant was 100% correct.
“The first time I saw her I was like WHO the F$CK is THIS???” encapsulates my impression of her too. Before her junior year I never watched a single women’s basketball game, Iowa or otherwise. Same goes for my wife. After that first game we saw it was appointment television thereafter.
 
I'm sure she didn't.

“I don’t want to be there because I’m somebody that can bring attention,” says Clark. “I love that for the game of women’s basketball. But at the same time, I want to be there because they think I’m good enough. I don’t want to be some little person that is kind of dragged around for people to cheer about and only watch because I’m sitting on the bench. That whole narrative kind of upset me. Because that is not fair. It’s disrespectful to the people that were on the team, that had earned it and were really good. And it’s also disrespectful to myself. ”
 
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