Can a team with a POY go deep in tourney with only a dominant defense and 1 reliable scorer?

[KcTo]

So I’m still looking for a well though out reply to the question: Can Iowa make a deep run using:

1. A POY candidate.
2. Strong defense. (Employing 2Bigs As illustrated at MN, at Cincinnati at at home vs MD)
3. Can they do so with only 1 other scorer.

And we’ve seen it before with Danny Manning leading a team of role players behind an elite level POY.

and the Navy team with ‘The Admiral’ (thank you Tippet1)

 

[dandh]

Navy, with David Robinson had a really nice run. I wouldn't say they had a dominant defense but played at a slow pace, which led to fewer possessions.

Larry Bird was the name that came to mind for me. Again, not sure if a dominant defense. That would be more like a Georgetown squad, but Ewing had some pretty talented teammates.

 

[iafan44]

So I’m still looking for a well though out reply to the question: Can Iowa make a deep run using:

1. A POY candidate.
2. Strong defense. (Employing 2Bigs As illustrated at MN, at Cincinnati at at home vs MD)
3. Can they do so with only 1 other scorer.

And we’ve seen it before with Danny Manning leading a team of role players behind an elite level POY.

and the Navy team with ‘The Admiral’ (thank you Tippet1)

No one is debating this team won’t score points. It’s the strong defense part that you’re just wrong on. Go look at how many points they’ve given up on the road this year and honestly tell us they have a strong defense. If they had the defense you are implying they have they would not have 8 losses.

 

[anon_2zMXH429BhxV1Npk]

So I’m still looking for a well though out reply to the question: Can Iowa make a deep run using:

1. A POY candidate.
2. Strong defense. (Employing 2Bigs As illustrated at MN, at Cincinnati at at home vs MD)
3. Can they do so with only 1 other scorer.

And we’ve seen it before with Danny Manning leading a team of role players behind an elite level POY.

and the Navy team with ‘The Admiral’ (thank you Tippet1)

IF Iowa had all 3 of those, then yes they could potentially do well in March. They don't have all 3 so might as well discuss whether Iowa football next year will run the table with a top 5 offense but giving up 20+ points a game.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

You keep trotting out the Cincinnati, Maryland, and Minnesota games to support your narrative. But, in reality, the reason why Iowa won those games is because our opponents shot like crap from 3(below 30% in each game) You’re going to argue that the misses are due to significantly better defensive efforts. My argument is much simpler and makes more sense. Those teams simply missed a ton of open shots. It had notgi

 

[anon_2zMXH429BhxV1Npk]

The other point about our defense being "good" with both Garza and RK playing is what happens when we face someone like Villanova in the 2nd round and they play 4 guards/undersized players? On D neither Garza nor RK can guard a wing, they would eat our zone alive with 3 point shooting. Far more teams play with 1 true or borderline big than play with two true bigs, so the "good" defense we have is only applicable for maybe half the team matchups we'd face.

 

[kceasthawk]

You realize that Curtis Pemsl has the highest ranked defensive value on this team?
As per Sports Reference?

And the evidence for your opinion?

OK, now I know where the disconnect is, on why we can't agree on his defense. Your talking about Curtis Pemsl. I've never seen him play. Does he play for a BIG team? I thought you were talking about Cordell Pemsl, the 4th year junior from Dubuque. My bad.....

 

[KcTo]

OK, now I know where the disconnect is, on why we can't agree on his defense. Your talking about Curtis Pemsl. I've never seen him play. Does he play for a BIG team? I thought you were talking about Cordell Pemsl, the 4th year junior from Dubuque. My bad.....

I’m going to attempt and answer everyone’s claim that Iowa can’t play defense, and using the entire seasons body of work as their single point of reference.

I continually assert that Iowa, when Fran starts 2 bigs, and gives them both extended minutes, and include ~20m from Pemsl the Enforcer, you have a completely different dynamic then when Frans has started his 4 guard lineup.

These are 2 mutually exclusive scenarios, and after MN we are starting to see a pattern of strong defensive efforts, that have ALL resulted in big wins, in fact, their best NET wins.

WHEN FRAN STARTS 2 BIGS, (in the post JoBo era) and GIVES THEN EXTENDED MINUTES, THEY WIN, and the wins are THE BEST in their resume.

I think that assertion is irrefutable.

as for Pemsl’s Defense, please rewatch the MN game, did anyone comment on him stuffing a fast break shot attempt at the rim? Did we see that? Or his 2 fouls drawn, or 3 rebounds 1 assist and neat 3-3 from field?

Pemsl continually as the best Iowa defender, and I believe we saw plenty of evidence of that ay MN.

 

[iafan44]

I’m going to attempt and answer everyone’s claim that Iowa can’t play defense, and using the entire seasons body of work as their single point of reference.

I continually assert that Iowa, when Fran starts 2 bigs, and gives them both extended minutes, and include ~20m from Pemsl the Enforcer, you have a completely different dynamic then when Frans has started his 4 guard lineup.

These are 2 mutually exclusive scenarios, and after MN we are starting to see a pattern of strong defensive efforts, that have ALL resulted in big wins, in fact, their best NET wins.

WHEN FRAN STARTS 2 BIGS, (in the post JoBo era) and GIVES THEN EXTENDED MINUTES, THEY WIN, and the wins are THE BEST in their resume.

I think that assertion is irrefutable.

as for Pemsl’s Defense, please rewatch the MN game, did anyone comment on him stuffing a fast break shot attempt at the rim? Did we see that? Or his 2 fouls drawn, or 3 rebounds 1 assist and neat 3-3 from field?

Pemsl continually as the best Iowa defender, and I believe we saw plenty of evidence of that ay MN.

Dude, just stop. Seriously.

 

[tippet1]

Larry Bird was the name that came to mind for me. Again, not sure if a dominant defense. That would be more like a Georgetown squad, but Ewing had some pretty talented teammates.

I forgot about Bird. I was around 13 for that national title game. Don't remember what kind of defense Indiana State played.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Minnesota missed a lot of open shots, shots that have gone down for other teams we've played on the road (Nebraska, Purdue, Indiana). RK and Garza did a good job on Oturu yesterday, but in all honesty Minnesota just isn't that good. Average and a bubble-ish team, but they definitely had a chance to score more than 55.

Oturu got his but Carr only had 10 and was 3-12. Kalscheur was 5-12 for 12 because he was so busy grabbing Weezy.
Sorry, had to release some aggression on Kalscheur.

 

[Gilligan222]

to make this simple to date Iowa has held
1 team to less than 49 points
6 teams between 50-59 points
8 teams between 60-69 points
4 teams between 70-79,

that makes 19 times out of 26 games where they held teams under 79 ppg

some try to use 6 games as the norm for determining Iowa Defense on how good or not. W/O taking into consideration of the WHOLE SEASONS body of work.

this year the adj d as of now is #81 [or it was last time I looked].
in spite of losing 3 starters that is a improvement of 30 spots from last season #111 last season they improved from #242.

why do people try to use a defense from 2 years ago to use against this years team?

in the NCAAT Garza will not get called for these phantom or ticky tack fouls. so yes depending on the seed and region they get seeded a Elite 8 is very possible as is the Sweet 16.

this is why I am very excited for the 20-21 season, Garza and Weezy will both be back

 

[kceasthawk]

to make this simple to date Iowa has held
1 team to less than 49 points
6 teams between 50-59 points
8 teams between 60-69 points
4 teams between 70-79,

that makes 19 times out of 26 games where they held teams under 79 ppg

some try to use 6 games as the norm for determining Iowa Defense on how good or not. W/O taking into consideration of the WHOLE SEASONS body of work.

this year the adj d as of now is #81 [or it was last time I looked].
in spite of losing 3 starters that is a improvement of 30 spots from last season #111 last season they improved from #242.

why do people try to use a defense from 2 years ago to use against this years team?

in the NCAAT Garza will not get called for these phantom or ticky tack fouls. so yes depending on the seed and region they get seeded a Elite 8 is very possible as is the Sweet 16.

this is why I am very excited for the 20-21 season, Garza and Weezy will both be back

There's really no way to know how a tourney game will be called, until we get into the game. Most leagues probably aren't as physical as the BIG, which could work for or against Luka who blows people up in the post.

 

[KcTo]

let me try, again, to frame this discussion...
https://images.app.goo.gl/hCqfcAr28gp4eZDH9

I’m going to attempt and answer everyone’s claim that Iowa can’t play defense, and using the entire seasons body of work as their single point of reference.

I continually assert that Iowa, when Fran starts 2 bigs, and gives them both extended minutes, and include ~20m from Pemsl the Enforcer, you have a completely different dynamic then when Frans has started his 4 guard lineup.

These are 2 mutually exclusive scenarios, and after MN we are starting to see a pattern of strong defensive efforts, that have ALL resulted in big wins, in fact, their best NET wins.

WHEN FRAN STARTS 2 BIGS, (in the post JoBo era) and GIVES THEN EXTENDED MINUTES, THEY WIN, and the wins are THE BEST in their resume.

https://images.app.goo.gl/hCqfcAr28gp4eZDH9
when Fran does not start his 4 guards, they have achieved their best wins, and have done so by vastly improved defense

let’s watch a few more examples and we’ll all see this play out...

 

[Gilligan222]

my starting line up with their Backups
PG SO Toussaint backup FR Ulis
SG SO Fredrick backups SR Jordan and FR Perkins
WG JR Weezy backup FR Kris Murray
WG JR Connor backup FR Keegan Murray
C SR Garza backup JR Nunge and FR Ugundele
not counting on SR Pemsl coming back
not counting on FR Patrick being able to play barring his medicine getting squared away.

even if Garza does not get the NPOY award he will still be a returning 1st Team AA and 1st Team All BT and the BT POY to lead this team, Nunge will provide him with a very solid backup not to mention a starter @ the 4.
right now the 2 tallest players are Garza @ 6'11 and Kriener @ 6'10.

next season these will be the tallest players
Nunge @7'0
Ogundele @6'11
Garza @6'11
something This team could have used this season,

not expecting the FR to see much playing time other than in mop up duty.

 

[RocknRollface]

Welcome back Gilligan/Herby/Blacktarn!!!!

Don't welcome him back.

 

[Gilligan222]

There's really no way to know how a tourney game will be called, until we get into the game. Most leagues probably aren't as physical as the BIG, which could work for or against Luka who blows people up in the post.

he had no problem blowing people up in the OOC when other Officials covered the games, another note. the BT Refs didn't really pay attention to him TILL AFTER the AA talk started, then all of sudden the phantom and ticky tack call started going against him,

if Garza was playing for anybody but Iowa 90% of those call wouldn't be called.

 

[Gilligan222]

Don't welcome him back.

oh and who are you to tell others what to do or not do?

 

[RocknRollface]

Please try to read the entire post and attempt to grasp the primary message.

the assertion is that this particular lineup as configured, with 2Bigs starting, has resulted in 3 of the best wins Iowa has achieved,

I’m not saying all the games that Iowa has played, I’m clearly saying “the games that 2 big started” and in another post I’ve added , in the post JoBo timeframe,

and again, since jobo has been shelved, the 2Big starting lineup, has produced their best win, MD (holding them to 49 points and 35% FG) ,and then on the road at MN, holding them to 55 points and 35%, and then At Cincinnati, where JoeTO was immediately pulled, Iowa again allowed 70 points and held them to 32% FG

What has been different versus the other Iowa games are in the # of minutes the bigs play, the limited # of minutes that JoeTO played, and in 2 of those games, MD and MN , CJF did not play at all...

Are there any questions on this now?

CJ is our best defender besides maybe Joe T. I don't care what any stats say. I can watch him stay in front of his man and get over screens.

There are advantages and disadvantages on playing two bigs but overall Iowa is not better defensively by playing 2 bigs, rebounding yes. Perimeter defense no.

And just a word of advice, dont waste your time engaging Herby aka Gilligan. It's not worth it.

 

[unoHawkeye]

my starting line up with their Backups
PG SO Toussaint backup FR Ulis
SG SO Fredrick backups SR Jordan and FR Perkins
WG JR Weezy backup FR Kris Murray
WG JR Connor backup FR Keegan Murray
C SR Garza backup JR Nunge and FR Ugundele
not counting on SR Pemsl coming back
not counting on FR Patrick being able to play barring his medicine getting squared away.

even if Garza does not get the NPOY award he will still be a returning 1st Team AA and 1st Team All BT and the BT POY to lead this team, Nunge will provide him with a very solid backup not to mention a starter @ the 4.
right now the 2 tallest players are Garza @ 6'11 and Kriener @ 6'10.

next season these will be the tallest players
Nunge @7'0
Ogundele @6'11
Garza @6'11
something This team could have used this season,

not expecting the FR to see much playing time other than in mop up duty.

This post is incomprehensible to me without accompanied star ratings

 

[Gilligan222]

CJ is our best defender besides maybe Joe T. I don't care what any stats say. I can watch him stay in front of his man and get over screens.

There are advantages and disadvantages on playing two bigs but overall Iowa is not better defensively by playing 2 bigs, rebounding yes. Perimeter defense no.

And just a word of advice, dont waste your time engaging Herby aka Gilligan. It's not worth it.

again who are you? I have paid for the subscription. do you own Rivals or run this site? if not use the ignore button.

 

[Gilligan222]

This post is incomprehensible to me without accompanied star ratings

look up their rankings yourself.

 

[Carlton]

Dick Bennett did it with less.

 

[HawkAssassin]

Neither DePaul or Purdue started 2Bigs nor played Kreiner for 35m or Pemsl for 20.

These 2 are the best defenders on the team and these 2 got significantly fewer minutes in those games.

agree?

Nunge and Garza were starting together for the DePaul game.

 

[KcTo]

Nunge and Garza were starting together for the DePaul game.

“...2Bigs IN the POST JoBo era...” is specifically what my assertion is...

MD, MN, Cincinnati game

Nunge is a defensive liability, Kriener and Pemsl are defensive strengths

 

[KcTo]

CJ is our best defender besides maybe Joe T. I don't care what any stats say. I can watch him stay in front of his man and get over screens.

There are advantages and disadvantages on playing two bigs but overall Iowa is not better defensively by playing 2 bigs, rebounding yes. Perimeter defense no.

And just a word of advice, dont waste your time engaging Herby aka Gilligan. It's not worth it.

all the analytical sites show CJF has the poorest defender of the remaining 8 players, closer to JoBo level, than any of the others, with BK being next poorest.

so subtracting CJF is a plus defensively,

thx for the heads up on Gillian

 

[kceasthawk]

he had no problem blowing people up in the OOC when other Officials covered the games, another note. the BT Refs didn't really pay attention to him TILL AFTER the AA talk started, then all of sudden the phantom and ticky tack call started going against him,

if Garza was playing for anybody but Iowa 90% of those call wouldn't be called.

There is not some conspiracy against Garza or Iowa on his fouls. I guarantee you that EVERY BIG coach makes his talking point to the refs in pre game about watching Garza and how he manhandles people one on one in the post. Its the second time through the conference, so teams are getting some idea what to do with him, when to double when to flop etc... And yet he has stayed productive. Theres no way he was going to go through the conference twice and not have some foul issues especially in some road games. He's also playing more minutes, (when he's not in foul trouble early), which leads to slower reactions on defense. Lots of reasons for the extra foul calls....

 

[Gilligan222]

Nunge and Garza were starting together for the DePaul game.

that was just the 2nd game of the season and the 2nd for Nunge since March of 2018, also Nunge played a whopping 10 minutes in that game,

CJ led the team in scoring with 16
Garza scored 14 points
Kriener scored 13 points
Weezy scored 4 points

so just what is your point other than the one at the top of your head.
in Nunges 3rd game he had these for stats
14 points going 2-5 from 3
10 rebounds
Garza scored 30 points with 10 responds hmmm looks like Nunge made tookj a lot of pressure off of Garza

next game Nunge had 11 points and 7 rebounds in 24 minutes
Garza 29 points and 12 rebounds

5th game Nunge tore his Acl and in 12 minutes scored 3 points grabbed 5 rebounds and added 2 assists.

Nunge was going to be a big part of this team going foward, so yeah losing Nunge hurt Iowa.

in that game CJ scored 21 points in the win.

 

[Gilligan222]

There is not some conspiracy against Garza or Iowa on his fouls. I guarantee you that EVERY BIG coach makes his talking point to the refs in pre game about watching Garza and how he manhandles people one on one in the post. Its the second time through the conference, so teams are getting some idea what to do with him, when to double when to flop etc... And yet he has stayed productive. Theres no way he was going to go through the conference twice and not have some foul issues especially in some road games. He's also playing more minutes, (when he's not in foul trouble early), which leads to slower reactions on defense. Lots of reasons for the extra foul calls....

if you say so, coaches are telling their players to hammer/hit Garza hard and often and the Refs are letting them get away with it.

against Minnesota Garza was hit so hard that the blow drew blood with no foul called. yet Garza who held the ball straight up over his head with 2 Minny Defenders had their arm extend over him, Garza tried to move and Garza was called for the foul to make it worse the officials went to the monitor to see if a flagrant call should have been made on Garza for just making a basic BB move.

anybody else on any team but Iowa that is a defensive foul.

 

[KcTo]

CJ is our best defender besides maybe Joe T. I don't care what any stats say. I can watch him stay in front of his man and get over screens.

There are advantages and disadvantages on playing two bigs but overall Iowa is not better defensively by playing 2 bigs, rebounding yes. Perimeter defense no.

And just a word of advice, dont waste your time engaging Herby aka Gilligan. It's not worth it.

I found 2 analytics sites, both showed the same results regarding CJF defense

foxsports Is 1st, sports reference is 2nd with Defensive BoxScore plus/-
https://www.foxsports.com/college-b...s?season=2019&category=ADVANCED&time=0&team=0

Here a low rating is preferred, the 2nd is Defensive boxscore +/-, where high is best
LG. 97.4
JT. 100.3
JW. 101.3
CP. 101.9
RK. 102.4
CM. 103.2
JB. 106.4
BK. 107.3
CJ. 107.3

CP. +3.6
RK. +2.8
CM. +2.5
LG. +2.0
JW. +2.0
JT. +2.0
BK. +0.5
CJ. +0.0
JB. -1.5

So here we see consensus using an orthogonal method of analysis.

And you can now see why I make the argument that losing CJF is a blessing in disguise as it will require Fran play the big defenders more and together which will result in more ugly wins...

and if Weezy returns to form, this team will go on a winning streak...

 

[ICWestfan]

question [actually 2]
1st do you watch these games or just look at the box score
2nd why do you call JoeTO?

he is after all a FR and was never called or ranked a 5* 1 n done player,
JT is leading the hawks in steals
yes he has 50 TO's but to put that into perspective
Jordan as a FR had 76 TO's
Gesell as a FR had 59 TO's

so before you trash a player do a little research on past FR PG's

even Marble as a JR had 80 TO's.. players who have the ball in their hands tend to have more TO's.

this is happened to Cook last season as he had 92 TO's.

the whole Idea is to limit the TO's in the 17-18 season where they went 4-14 in BT play they avg 13.3 TO's per game
this season they are avg'ing 12.2 TO's per game,

now to CJ you do realize that he is the best perimeter defender on the team

in that CINN game Evelyn had his best game this is where Fran is at his best by sticking with the hot hand, BE had the hot hand and FR JT didn't in his 1st start.

Fran is going with the hot hand in fact he has been doing this quite often the last few years. this is his best coaching since he has been here, these players are playing their best team ball since the Gesell and Woodbury years.​

JT has 50 TO's so far PG Jordan as a FR had 76
PG Gesell as a FR had 59 TO's

Fran being a former college pg himself knows far more than you will ever know on how and when to play PG JT,
the Cinncinnati game JT MADE his 1st start, gee looked more like FR 1st star jitters, in this case GT Evelyn came in and was a big reason why Iowa won that game.

please don't confuse a FR not playing up to your expectations and refrain from referring to him as JoeTO as he has done nothing to deserve that tag.
Garza has 47 TO's
Weezy has 41 TO's

this team is/has far exceeded 99.9% of posters expectations
99.9% expected a 10th or worse finish in the BT with ABSOLUTELY NO SHOT AT THE POST SEASON.

here they are 5 games left in the regular season T-3rd and a 6 seed in the NCAAT.

they are doing this after losing 3 starters during the season and losing these before the season SR Baer
JR Cook 2nd Team All BT to the NBA
JR Moss to Kansas via the GT.

and yet here you are bellyaching about this player and/or that player and more importantly how Fran is using these players,

you are the most pathetic poster around.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[KcTo]

I found 2 analytics sites, both showed the same results regarding CJF defense

foxsports Is 1st, sports reference is 2nd with Defensive BoxScore plus/-
https://www.foxsports.com/college-b...s?season=2019&category=ADVANCED&time=0&team=0

Here a low rating is preferred, the 2nd is Defensive boxscore +/-, where high is best
LG. 97.4
JT. 100.3
JW. 101.3
CP. 101.9
RK. 102.4
CM. 103.2
JB. 106.4
BK. 107.3
CJ. 107.3

CP. +3.6
RK. +2.8
CM. +2.5
LG. +2.0
JW. +2.0
JT. +2.0
BK. +0.5
CJ. +0.0
JB. -1.5

So here we see consensus using an orthogonal method of analysis.

And you can now see why I make the argument that losing CJF is a blessing in disguise as it will require Fran play the big defenders more and together which will result in more ugly wins...

and if Weezy returns to form, this team will go on a winning streak...

There have been multiple replies since Sunday claiming that Pemsl CANT play a defense, and also that CJF CAN play defense, all of which I’ve shared 2 proof sources that show the degree they DO actually play defense.

Which is really the basis for the argument starting with MN game as to why we can expect the excellent defense to continue, holding home standing MN to only 0.89 points per possession, a number that is better than any current teams aggregated PPP.

that is why Im very optimistic about the remainder of the games this season.

 

[RocknRollface]

all the analytical sites show CJF has the poorest defender of the remaining 8 players, closer to JoBo level, than any of the others, with BK being next poorest.

so subtracting CJF is a plus defensively,

thx for the heads up on Gillian

But in reality hes clearly a good defender so I think that tells you all you need to know about judging defense on stats vs just watching the game.

Especially considering Iowa motly plays a zone.

It's not difficult to tell who's playing good defense.

 

[RocknRollface]

I found 2 analytics sites, both showed the same results regarding CJF defense

foxsports Is 1st, sports reference is 2nd with Defensive BoxScore plus/-
https://www.foxsports.com/college-b...s?season=2019&category=ADVANCED&time=0&team=0

Here a low rating is preferred, the 2nd is Defensive boxscore +/-, where high is best
LG. 97.4
JT. 100.3
JW. 101.3
CP. 101.9
RK. 102.4
CM. 103.2
JB. 106.4
BK. 107.3
CJ. 107.3

CP. +3.6
RK. +2.8
CM. +2.5
LG. +2.0
JW. +2.0
JT. +2.0
BK. +0.5
CJ. +0.0
JB. -1.5

So here we see consensus using an orthogonal method of analysis.

And you can now see why I make the argument that losing CJF is a blessing in disguise as it will require Fran play the big defenders more and together which will result in more ugly wins...

and if Weezy returns to form, this team will go on a winning streak...

My counter point would be those are clearly meaningless because they're obviously not indicative of what's actually happening on the court.

 

[KcTo]

My counter point would be those are clearly meaningless because they're obviously not indicative of what's actually happening on the court.

Do you believe that Garza leads the league in Player Efficiency Rating or PER, at 35.8, with the next closet player being at 30.6, and PER is the #1 criterion that the NBA uses to compare players. Do you believe in that?

Or that Garza leads the B1G in Offensive Box Score and Win Shares, which are 2 of the primary metrics that the NBA also uses.Do you believe in the validity of these metrics?

if yes, then they are the same metrics that see, CJF as a liability on defense, CJF has the lowest defensive rebounding performance on the entire roster, even little hobbling JoBo does a better job rebounding than CJF, showing he just doesn’t rebound.

Now, I like CJF, I appreciate his contributions, I think there is starting role for him, but we must be smart in pairing him with a full compliment of defenders and rebounders.

 

[Gilligan222]

There have been multiple replies since Sunday claiming that Pemsl CANT play a defense, and also that CJF CAN play defense, all of which I’ve shared 2 proof sources that show the degree they DO actually play defense.

Which is really the basis for the argument starting with MN game as to why we can expect the excellent defense to continue, holding home standing MN to only 0.89 points per possession, a number that is better than any current teams aggregated PPP.

that is why Im very optimistic about the remainder of the games this season.

the only flaw in your thinking Minnesota is only 243rd in total offense.

 

[FranklinHawk]

my starting line up with their Backups
PG SO Toussaint backup FR Ulis
SG SO Fredrick backups SR Jordan and FR Perkins
WG JR Weezy backup FR Kris Murray
WG JR Connor backup FR Keegan Murray
C SR Garza backup JR Nunge and FR Ugundele
not counting on SR Pemsl coming back
not counting on FR Patrick being able to play barring his medicine getting squared away.

even if Garza does not get the NPOY award he will still be a returning 1st Team AA and 1st Team All BT and the BT POY to lead this team, Nunge will provide him with a very solid backup not to mention a starter @ the 4.
right now the 2 tallest players are Garza @ 6'11 and Kriener @ 6'10.

next season these will be the tallest players
Nunge @7'0
Ogundele @6'11
Garza @6'11
something This team could have used this season,

not expecting the FR to see much playing time other than in mop up duty.

Bohannon not starting? LOL

 

[KcTo]

the only flaw in your thinking Minnesota is only 243rd in total offense.

Good point.

However, they did supress Oturu in his 22pts pgm and 11R pgm to 15 and 6.

In my view, points suppression is just as vital as points scored, particularly at end of game.

And they are also very good at home beating front runners MD and tPSU (among others) so I would say they over perform their offensive production in The Barn.

 

[Gilligan222]

not saying the defense is not improving as it is
17-18 242nd
18-19 111th
19-20 87th with a low of 76th.

but for those that claim that Fran can't coach defense
12-13 24th
13-14 77th
14-15 34th
15-16 30th

those 4 year starters recorded the 3rd best record by 4 year starters in Iowa's history.

 

[hawkjt]

OSU will test our big lineup
with 4 quick guards around Wesson. Who will luka guard?