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Can PSU actually match Minnesota?

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10 AA’s with no champs? I don’t see it with Messenbrink and Starocci, but I also didn’t see anyway they only end up with 3 Finalists.

I managed to jinx Van Ness early in the year so I will formally pick Mess and Starocci in the hopes my jinxing ability continues!!
 
So? It's not the question. Go to your board to gloat.

Yes, it's possible PSU has zero champions. I would say the chances are very, very low. Caliendo would have to beat MM. 1 in 20 chance, imo. Kech would have to beat Star. 1 in 3. Steve B has to be beat Barr. 50/50.

I'll answer the question. The chances of Caliendo beating Mesenbrink:
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How many performed at or better than seed?

Weird how your guys' standards drop so suddenly. Lol.
4 have missed their seed, 2 have beat their seed, and 4 can match or beat still.

If they lose every match tomorrow their average finish will be 4.8 vs an average seed of 2.6. If they win every match tomorrow the will actually beat their average seed.
 
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10 AA’s with no champs? I don’t see it with Messenbrink and Starocci, but I also didn’t see anyway they only end up with 3 Finalists.

I managed to jinx Van Ness early in the year so I will formally pick Mess and Starocci in the hopes my jinxing ability continues!!
Based on seeds I had them at 2.7 expected champs and 8.6 expected AAs. They hit the over on AAs and look good for at least one champ.
 
Lol, congrats, very rough tourney for the best lineup in the history of NCAA wrestling, so I get you being salty. Lol.

Haha, not salty at all. It was a great day. All 10 wrestlers making the podium for the 2nd time ever. All 10 still in the mix for top 3 tomorrow. And, unlike last season, we'll finally get to see not just one, but two Penn State-Iowa finals.
 
Haha, not salty at all. It was a great day. All 10 wrestlers making the podium for the 2nd time ever. All 10 still in the mix for top 3 tomorrow. And, unlike last season, we'll finally get to see not just one, but two Penn State-Iowa finals.
Lol, someone's putting in work. Really funny.
 
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So? It's not the question. Go to your board to gloat.

Yes, it's possible PSU has zero champions. I would say the chances are very, very low. Caliendo would have to beat MM. 1 in 20 chance, imo. Kech would have to beat Star. 1 in 3. Steve B has to be beat Barr. 50/50.
Barr won’t beat SB.
 
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Can Michigan State really finish with just 0.5 points? And get beaten by such teams as Bellarmine, George Mason, Chattanooga, Columbia, the Citadel and 50+ others?
Where did you wrestle? It’s inifinitely easier to just pick a team to be a fan of and then toss insults at someone who actually put more time into a place than you can dream of. But, hey, haters gonna hate!
 
Where did you wrestle? It’s inifinitely easier to just pick a team to be a fan of and then toss insults at someone who actually put more time into a place than you can dream of. But, hey, haters gonna hate!
I forgot you wrestled for Penn State as you hurl your insults at them. And, FWIW, I was a three year starter at a D3 school in PA. My oldest child was a student-athlete at PennState and I’ve coached at one of the PennState branch campuses. I’ve lived and worked in state college and both my wife and I have taken graduate courses at Penn State. As opposed to some others, I’m not some rando fan posting on another team’s board looking for acceptance from their fans by busting on their rival because my school has no message board.
 
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Where did you wrestle? It’s inifinitely easier to just pick a team to be a fan of and then toss insults at someone who actually put more time into a place than you can dream of. But, hey, haters gonna hate!
I can dream of 24 hours in a day. How much time did you put in? Sorry MSU, but was much grief as you give out on this board, i could not resist. :)
 
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I forgot you wrestled for Penn State as you hurl your insults at them. And, FWIW, I was a three year starter at a D3 school in PA. My oldest child was a student-athlete at PennState and I’ve coached at one of the PennState branch campuses. I’ve lived and worked in state college and both my wife and I have taken graduate courses at Penn State. As opposed to some others, I’m not some rando fan posting on another team’s board looking for acceptance from their fans by busting on their rival because my school has no message board.
His team scored 0.5 points in the tourney lololol.
 
Lol, congrats, very rough tourney for the best lineup in the history of NCAA wrestling, so I get you being salty. Lol.
I checked the amount of psu finalists and winners since wrestling began and it’s a lot harder to check the amount of psu finalists than say other schools . Three finalists is common for psu on average .

The difference this year is the talent was there to do better across the board. This team is going to probably score in the 160 range or better so I’d say they’ll have done well.
 
I'll answer the question. The chances of Caliendo beating Mesenbrink:
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Well done lol. A classic. Just remember that Lloyd had a chance in Dumb and Dumber though lol.

I love MC, he wrestled a smart match two weeks ago, but I’m not seeing him beating MM. There is always a chance as lots of great wrestlers have been upset a time or two, but I’m not seeing this happen to MM tonight.
 
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I forgot you wrestled for Penn State as you hurl your insults at them. And, FWIW, I was a three year starter at a D3 school in PA. My oldest child was a student-athlete at PennState and I’ve coached at one of the PennState branch campuses. I’ve lived and worked in state college and both my wife and I have taken graduate courses at Penn State. As opposed to some others, I’m not some rando fan posting on another team’s board looking for acceptance from their fans by busting on their rival because my school has no message board.

I can dream of 24 hours in a day. How much time did you put in? Sorry MSU, but was much grief as you give out on this board, i could not resist. :)
The difference is you have no idea the time I spent or money I have given over the past 30 years. The simple truth is the MSU Athletic Department does not care one bit if MSU wrestling succeeds and they will NOT commit ANYTHING but the bare minimum to the program. I had that said to me as point blank as it gets. All they want is for the guys to graduate and stay out of trouble. At MSU, wrestling is a fringe as it possibly can be and the Nassar disaster cemented that for the foreseeable future.

Roger and Chris are actually good guys and solid coaches, but they could be the best salesmen on planet Earth and if any recruits visits ANY other school before or after visiting MSU, they would have to want to be Rocky training in squalor in Russia vs Drago with every new age training advantage at their fingertips…
 
I forgot you wrestled for Penn State as you hurl your insults at them. And, FWIW, I was a three year starter at a D3 school in PA. My oldest child was a student-athlete at PennState and I’ve coached at one of the PennState branch campuses. I’ve lived and worked in state college and both my wife and I have taken graduate courses at Penn State. As opposed to some others, I’m not some rando fan posting on another team’s board looking for acceptance from their fans by busting on their rival because my school has no message board.
Oh and I do NOT hurl insults at PSU. I mess with certain PSU fans that come on here to brag. I have been VERY clear that what PSU is doing is beyond incredible. I don’t accuse them of cheating like many others do, nor do I use the Sandusky crap as a non sequitor attack.

To be clear, my talk about PSU, would be nothing but positive on here if not for many of the PSU comments on here. I have openly admitted that on many occasions and make my trolling attempts so transparent it’s comical how many of you still bite time and time again…
 
The difference is you have no idea the time I spent or money I have given over the past 30 years. The simple truth is the MSU Athletic Department does not care one bit if MSU wrestling succeeds and they will NOT commit ANYTHING but the bare minimum to the program. I had that said to me as point blank as it gets. All they want is for the guys to graduate and stay out of trouble. At MSU, wrestling is a fringe as it possibly can be and the Nassar disaster cemented that for the foreseeable future.

Roger and Chris are actually good guys and solid coaches, but they could be the best salesmen on planet Earth and if any recruits visits ANY other school before or after visiting MSU, they would have to want to be Rocky training in squalor in Russia vs Drago with every new age training advantage at their fingertips…
All good. But when you dish it out constantly, you should be able to occasionally take it.
 
Oh and I do NOT hurl insults at PSU. I mess with certain PSU fans that come on here to brag. I have been VERY clear that was PSU is doing is beyond incredible. I don’t accuse them of cheating like many others do, nor do I use the Sandusky crap as a non sequitor attack.

To be clear, my talk about PSU, would be nothing but positive on here if not for many of the PSU comments on here. I have openly admitted that on many occasions and make my trolling attempts so transparent it’s comical how many of you still bite time and time again…
You started this thread dude.
 
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You started this thread dude.
How exactly was it an insult to PSU wrestling? They have 10 AA’s. All I literally said was can they do it in the same way Minn did it as well. I then said that they almost certainly get 2 champs.

Now, was it specifically to bait soft PSU fans? Certainly.

Oh, and I take it happily. It’s just if you want to take the low hanging fruit of what MSU wrestling has become to come at me, I am actually going to give you the facts about what they are now and why…
 
The difference is you have no idea the time I spent or money I have given over the past 30 years. The simple truth is the MSU Athletic Department does not care one bit if MSU wrestling succeeds and they will NOT commit ANYTHING but the bare minimum to the program. I had that said to me as point blank as it gets. All they want is for the guys to graduate and stay out of trouble. At MSU, wrestling is a fringe as it possibly can be and the Nassar disaster cemented that for the foreseeable future.

Roger and Chris are actually good guys and solid coaches, but they could be the best salesmen on planet Earth and if any recruits visits ANY other school before or after visiting MSU, they would have to want to be Rocky training in squalor in Russia vs Drago with every new age training advantage at their fingertips…
FWIW, I feel you here. I wrestled, ran XC and ran track at my D3 Alma Mater. For years after, I generously donated to their athletic fund. Then they eliminated wrestling and built a new football stadium where the track had been without ever building a new track. I stopped donating and they had the gull to call me and ask why I had stopped.
 
There he is... Even if there is a flaw in his train of thought, he will scramble to reshape any thought. Other interpretations of his lack of clarity are impossible. He is steadfast and vehement in his narcissistic approach. I look forward to your 2 paragraph rebuttal...
 
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FWIW, I feel you here. I wrestled, ran XC and ran track at my D3 Alma Mater. For years after, I generously donated to their athletic fund. Then they eliminated wrestling and built a new football stadium where the track had been without ever building a new track. I stopped donating and they had the gull to call me and ask why I had stopped.
Football is the scourge of college athletics. I wish college football would go semi pro with the school name intact but with the NFL kick in the funding like a AAA farm system in baseball. Each NFL team could have several farm teams.
 
Well done lol. A classic. Just remember that Lloyd had a chance in Dumb and Dumber though lol.

I love MC, he wrestled a smart match two weeks ago, but I’m not seeing him beating MM. There is always a chance as lots of great wrestlers have been upset a time or two, but I’m not seeing this happen to MM tonight.

Caliendo is a championship level wrestler. I'm a fan. Unfortunately for him, he has a freak of nature in his way.
 
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